Pat Hase wrote: > There is an area of Frome called Waterloo. Nowadays, the area has a post > code BA11 3JB and there is a road called Waterloo. Ah!! Mystery solved :)) Thank you Pat :)) Now to figure out who her parents were. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/

There is an area of Frome called Waterloo. Nowadays, the area has a post code BA11 3JB and there is a road called Waterloo. Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charani" <[email protected]> To: "Nancy Frey" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 8:35 PM Subject: Re: [B&D] DAVIDGE (was: SAGE of Bristol) > Nancy Frey wrote: >> Hi Charani, >> I have the PADFIELD line back a ways, but both Joseph Jeremiah and >> I have been searching for the birth of this particular Elizabeth >> DAVIDGE for ages. Her father is a Charles DAVIDGE and on her >> marriage record she says she is from "Waterloo". The marriage took >> place in Frome. I need to find out where this Waterloo is. >>

Charani wrote: > I'm confused!! Not hard atm since I have a muzzy headache caused by > inusfficient sleep and too much computer work :(( 8>< > Charles' dau Elizabeth is given as Elizabeth E, age 10, b Wincanton in > the 1861 census which corresponds to this entry in FreeBMD: > > Births Mar 1851 > Davidge Elizabeth Eliza Wincanton 10 596 According to the 1881 census Charles' dau is still single and at home with him and wife Ann and she's lost 5 years. RG number: RG11 Piece: 2398 Folio: 43 Page: 25 RD and Parish of WIncanton DAVIDGE, Charles Head Married M 72 1809 Farm Lab Wincanton Somerset DAVIDGE, Ann Wife Married F 67 1814 Wincanton Somerset DAVIDGE, George Son Single M 45 1836 None Wincanton Somerset DAVIDGE, Elizabeth Dau Single F 25 1856 Dressmaker Wincanton Somerset That means she can't be the Elizabeth who married Farnham I'm even more confused now :/ -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/

I'm confused!! Not hard atm since I have a muzzy headache caused by inusfficient sleep and too much computer work :(( Percy Farnham PADFIELD was b 1882, s of Farnham George PADFIELD and Elizabeth DAVIDGE. In 1881 Farnham PADFIELD is a police constable and in a lodging house. No sign of Elizabeth although Farnham says he's married. In 1891 Farnham is now a haulier with six children and a wife named Isabella. Is that Isabella Farnham's sister and he's put her name down on the census form by mistake or has Elizabeth died and he's got together with an Isabella? I haven't found a marriage for Farnham and an Isabella. Charles' dau Elizabeth is given as Elizabeth E, age 10, b Wincanton in the 1861 census which corresponds to this entry in FreeBMD: Births Mar 1851 Davidge Elizabeth Eliza Wincanton 10 596 -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/

Nancy Frey wrote: > Hi Charani, > > You certainly got my attention, lol. Elizabeth DAVDGE and Farnham > George PADFIELD are in my family tree. I have entered the > information you have given in this eMail and will do a bit of a > search before sending you what I have. > > I have the PADFIELD line back a ways, but both Joseph Jeremiah and > I have been searching for the birth of this particular Elizabeth > DAVIDGE for ages. Her father is a Charles DAVIDGE and on her > marriage record she says she is from "Waterloo". The marriage took > place in Frome. I need to find out where this Waterloo is. > > Between the three of us I hope we can put this line to bed soon. The more eyes, the better the chance. It's a pity FreeREG doesn't allow a global search the way FreeBMD does. The only Waterloos in England are in London and Liverpool, plus Waterlooville in Hampshire, not forgetting the one in Belgium near Anderlecht which we can't entirely rule out even though it's unlikely. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/

Could be Waterloo north of Liverpool or the one near London. Edna - Ottawa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy Frey" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 2:47 PM Subject: Re: [B&D] SAGE of Bristol Hi Charani, You certainly got my attention, lol. Elizabeth DAVDGE and Farnham George PADFIELD are in my family tree. I have entered the information you have given in this eMail and will do a bit of a search before sending you what I have. I have the PADFIELD line back a ways, but both Joseph Jeremiah and I have been searching for the birth of this particular Elizabeth DAVIDGE for ages. Her father is a Charles DAVIDGE and on her marriage record she says she is from "Waterloo". The marriage took place in Frome. I need to find out where this Waterloo is. Between the three of us I hope we can put this line to bed soon. Regards, Nancy Frey Newcastle, Ontario, CANADA OPC for Ansford & Castle Cary, Somerset Moderator of Yahoo! Catsash Hundred Group Moderator of Yahoo! Glaston Twelve Hides Hundred Group Moderator of Yahoo! NorthWiltshire Group Moderator of Yahoo! SouthWiltshire Group Moderator of Yahoo! WestWiltshire Group Moderator of Yahoo! FULFORD_North Devon Group Moderator of Yahoo! DAVIDGE Connections Group

Just in case some of you had problems with the site and the Doomsday tools, I received this apology. Edna - Ottawa

The National Archives NewsSent by The National Archives Dear Subscribers, I'd like to apologise for any issues you may have experienced when visiting our Labs site, as featured in the enewsletter we sent you yesterday. The level of interest on this occasion has been far greater than on previous occasions, and our Labs site couldn't quite meet the demand. All the prototypes on the Labs site (including the Domesday tool) are trials, which have been produced at very low cost using new technology, new ideas and new ways of processing data. They are not perfect and need to be built on. Before we invest, we want to know what you think about them and whether you would find them useful. This will help us focus our limited funding and resources in a way that supports you, our customers, best. So far this has been a success and given us a strong steer on what works, what doesn't and what you would like to see. It is great to see so much interest and shows we are going down the right path in our developments. The level of interest in the site yesterday (particularly the Domesday tool) caused a number of technical issues, which we are now working to resolve. We will use the lessons learnt this week to improve both the robustness of the Labs site itself and how we tell our customers about it. In spite of these teething problems, we have been able to get very useful feedback on the automatic geographic referencing we trialled with the Domesday tool. We used automated software, rather than a manual process, to geo-reference this data. We've now learnt that this works on the whole but that there are a few specific issues. We are now comparing the computer-generated data with the most up-to-date scholarly lists of Domesday names to help resolve any issues. I hope that you will continue to take an interest in our online developments and tell us what you think of them. We are very excited at being able to open up our collection in new and innovative ways, and we very much value your support in doing so. Best wishes, David Thomas Director of Technology

Hi Charani, You certainly got my attention, lol. Elizabeth DAVDGE and Farnham George PADFIELD are in my family tree. I have entered the information you have given in this eMail and will do a bit of a search before sending you what I have. I have the PADFIELD line back a ways, but both Joseph Jeremiah and I have been searching for the birth of this particular Elizabeth DAVIDGE for ages. Her father is a Charles DAVIDGE and on her marriage record she says she is from "Waterloo". The marriage took place in Frome. I need to find out where this Waterloo is. Between the three of us I hope we can put this line to bed soon. Regards, Nancy Frey Newcastle, Ontario, CANADA OPC for Ansford & Castle Cary, Somerset Moderator of Yahoo! Catsash Hundred Group Moderator of Yahoo! Glaston Twelve Hides Hundred Group Moderator of Yahoo! NorthWiltshire Group Moderator of Yahoo! SouthWiltshire Group Moderator of Yahoo! WestWiltshire Group Moderator of Yahoo! FULFORD_North Devon Group Moderator of Yahoo! DAVIDGE Connections Group ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charani" <[email protected]> To: "B+D List" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 7:33 AM Subject: [B&D] SAGE of Bristol > I'm back doing a hunt on my SAGE line again which seems to be a > different one to those of other SAGE researchers. > > Harriet Hannah SAGE (b 1883, dau of George SAGE and Ellen WILKS) who > married Percy Farnham PADFIELD (b Q3 1882, s of Farnham George > PADFIELD and Elizabeth DAVIDGE) in Bristol in 1903 was my starting point. > > George was born around 1833 in Bristol according to the various > censuses he appears in and was the s of George and Selena. > > George snr was born around 1811 allegedly in Bristol but I have not > located a baptism for him on the BAFHS CDs, nor his marriage to Selena > who had a sister Jemima who married a Mr EDWARDS. Selena was born > around 1815. > > Does anyone have any info on either/both Georges or who Selena was please? > > As always, any assistance would be much appreciated. > > -- > Charani (UK) > OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM > Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM > http://wsom-opc.org.uk > http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/ subject and the body of the message

I'm back doing a hunt on my SAGE line again which seems to be a different one to those of other SAGE researchers. Harriet Hannah SAGE (b 1883, dau of George SAGE and Ellen WILKS) who married Percy Farnham PADFIELD (b Q3 1882, s of Farnham George PADFIELD and Elizabeth DAVIDGE) in Bristol in 1903 was my starting point. George was born around 1833 in Bristol according to the various censuses he appears in and was the s of George and Selena. George snr was born around 1811 allegedly in Bristol but I have not located a baptism for him on the BAFHS CDs, nor his marriage to Selena who had a sister Jemima who married a Mr EDWARDS. Selena was born around 1815. Does anyone have any info on either/both Georges or who Selena was please? As always, any assistance would be much appreciated. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/

liverpud wrote: > I always look forward to receiving this newsletter: > > http://www.ionmx.com/FormServer/?F=FC67E87E15899 It has a lot of interesting information and the occasional competition. This month's newsletter focusses on Interactive Mapping with links to Domesday <http://labs.nationalarchives.gov.uk/wordpress/index.php/2010/10/domesday-on-a-map/> and Pre-War England <http://labs.nationalarchives.gov.uk/wordpress/index.php/2010/03/uk-history-photo-finder/> -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/

I always look forward to receiving this newsletter: http://www.ionmx.com/FormServer/?F=FC67E87E15899 Edna - Ottawa

Sadly not one for those outside the UK at the moment -------- Original Message -------- Subject: FFHS-NEWS A Life Without Work Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 22:57:14 +0100 From: News from the Federation of Family History Societies The following was issued by Richard Taylor, Archives & Local History Development Manager, Communities & Neighbourhoods, City of York Council, 18 Back Swinegate, YORK YO1 8ZD. A Life Without Work BBC2 will be transmitting a two part documentary under the above title at 9:00pm on Fridays 22nd October and 29th October. The documentary marks the centenary of Seebohm Rowntree's 1910 study of unemployment in York. This, like his better-known 1901 study on poverty, directly influenced the social policies of the 1910-1914 Liberal/Labour coalition government and laid the foundations for the Welfare State. Given the current debate over the size of the State, the transmission date in the week of the Comprehensive Spending Review announcement is not a coincidence - the programme is made by BBC Current Affairs. The first programme, which is the more archive-heavy, concentrates on the BBC's attempts to trace the descendents of the unemployed York families featured in the original survey. The second programme features the stories of people looking for work in York 100 years on, drawing parallels and contrasts with the situation 100 years before. The BBC originally made contact with our friends at the York & District Family History Society for assistance in tracking down the families' descendants, as it turned out that Rowntree had used pseudonyms in the published study. This led onto the BBC using the city archives, in particular the Medical Officer of Health archives, to track down one of the families through the child vaccination and slum clearance archives we hold. The unexpected outcome was that one of the families concerned turned out to be the great-grandparents of York actor Mark Addy ("The Full Monty", "Robin Hood", and those ubiquitous Tesco ads with Fay Ripley). So, "Who Do You Think You Are" in reverse - they started with a real historical story and uncovered a celebrity as a result! It was obvious to us that the BBC were surprised by the amount of information about the lives of ordinary people in a Victorian/ Edwardian city archive, and as a result they did a lot more filming and interviewing in the archives than originally intended. How much of this makes it through to the transmitted version we shall see! Roger Lewry FFHS Archives Liaison -------- Original Message ends -------- -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/

Hi Charani: Thanks for the information. Sarah Ann had a sister named Harriet, born in the September quarter of 1848, Clifton district, a brother named Alfred, born in the June quarter of 1850, and another brother named Albert John born in the December quarter of 1855, both Clifton district. It looks like my best bet is to order a birth certificate from the GRO. Regards, Carol Collins

It seems we all have connections with Chocolate! - My mother also worked for Packers at Greenbank and my grandparents lived in Turley Road very near the factory. This building later became Elizabeth Shaw. Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 4:48 PM Subject: Re: [B&D] "Chocolate Wars" > Of course there also was the Packers chocolate factory in Greenbank. > > David > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 3:40 PM > Subject: Re: [B&D] "Chocolate Wars" > > >> Hi Polly >> Before marriage my mother worked at Carsons Chocolate factory at >> Mangotsfield, which was near the railway station. The factory has now >> been >> pulled >> down to make way for new housing. I remember seeing the huge pile of red >> bricks before they were cleared away for the housing scheme. She used to >> make >> the boxes and was an expert at tying bows and doing lovely neat corners. >> Bernice >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

from Edna - Ottawa "Chocolate Wars" ...The extraordinary and dramatic story of the chocolate pioneers-as told by one of the descendants of the Cadbury dynasty-ending with Kraft's recent takeover of the empire With a cast of characters straight from a Victorian novel, Chocolate Wars tells the story of the great chocolatier dynasties-the Lindts, Frys, Hersheys, Marses and Nestles-through the prism of the Cadburys. Chocolate was consumed unrefined and unprocessed as a rather bitter, fatty drink for the wealthy elite until the late 19th century, when the Swiss discovered a way to blend it with milk and unleashed a product that would storm every market in the world. Thereafter, one of the great global business rivalries unfolded as each chocolate maker attempted to dominate its domestic market and innovate recipes for chocolate that would set it apart from its rivals. The contest was full of dramatic contradictions: the Cadburys were austere Quakers who found themselves making millions from an indulgent product; Kitty Hershey could hardly have been more flamboyant, yet her husband was moved by the Cadburys' tradition of philanthropy. Each company was a product of its unique time and place, yet all of them shared one thing: they want to make the best chocolate in the world. Chocolate Wars divulges the visions and ideals that inspired these royal chocolate families and, above all, the mouth-watering chocolate concoctions they created that have driven a global transformation of one of our favourite treats. And with the recent purchase of Cadbury's by mega-food manufacturer Kraft, the story is brought rapidly into the present. ... About the Author Deborah Cadbury is a writer, award-winning documentary producer for the BBC, the author of seven books and a relative of the famous Quaker family that gave its name to one of the world's most famous brands of chocolate. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Of course there also was the Packers chocolate factory in Greenbank. David ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 3:40 PM Subject: Re: [B&D] "Chocolate Wars" > Hi Polly > Before marriage my mother worked at Carsons Chocolate factory at > Mangotsfield, which was near the railway station. The factory has now been > pulled > down to make way for new housing. I remember seeing the huge pile of red > bricks before they were cleared away for the housing scheme. She used to > make > the boxes and was an expert at tying bows and doing lovely neat corners. > Bernice > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

----- Original Message ----- From: "ELIZABETH NEWBERY" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 10:33 PM Subject: Re: [B&D] "Chocolate Wars" .> Rowntrees - in York - was also started by the Quakers, they seemed to go in for > chocolate factories. Hi Liz I think I read somewhere that it was considered to be nutricious and healthy because of the milk , and poorer people would benefit from it. Caroline

Hi Polly Before marriage my mother worked at Carsons Chocolate factory at Mangotsfield, which was near the railway station. The factory has now been pulled down to make way for new housing. I remember seeing the huge pile of red bricks before they were cleared away for the housing scheme. She used to make the boxes and was an expert at tying bows and doing lovely neat corners. Bernice

>From 1916 until 1983 Cadbury's also had a factory in Gloucestershire at Frampton on Severn. I remember regularly seeing these very unusual shaped tanker lorries obviously full of some form of dried chocolate. http://www.junctionheritage.org.uk/category_id__46.aspx "During the 20th century, cocoa beans were imported to Cadbury's factory at Frampton-on-Severn. The beans were processed, mixed with sugar and milk and baked. The resulting 'chocolate crumb' was taken by narrowboat to Bourneville, near Birmingham, to be made into chocolate." Chris Jefferies Cheltenham Glos -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Charani Sent: 17 October 2010 20:36 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [B&D] "Chocolate Wars" liverpud wrote: > Sadly taken over by Kraft. You were right as was Phil. Cadbury's was started in Bournville but they also were in Bristol: <quote> Sir Dominic said the fate of the factory's Somerdale plant in Keynsham, near Bristol, would be a test of Kraft's trustworthiness. </quote> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_midlands/8493484.stm -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message