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in Bitton and other areas the HARDING name is all around in the church yard on tombs it says likely relatives Roger HARDING yeoman died nov 13 1718 Roger son of Roger and Martha may 1710 Martha later married Harrington DAVIS she died 1746 age 65 i will send a page jim On 17-Nov-10, at 3:48 AM, Pat Hase wrote: > My 4 x great grandparents were Edward HARDING and Mary HARRIS who were > married in Bitton 25th Oct 1773. But who were their parents and > when did > they die? > > There are 2 burials of a Mary HARDING in Bitton > 28th Oct 1832 Mary HARDING aged 85 > 7th April 1833 Mary HARDING aged 83 > > Either might be mine - does anyone else claim them? > > Pat > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message

Hi Jim, Thanks for all these references. I will make sure they are either on my DVDs or my list of things to download. I find it quite handy that Internet Archive will keep that list for you. Often when I'm looking for something specific, I don't want to spend time downloading something else I spot, so I just add them to my list. I do have several of the History & Antiquities of Somerset books, but I never thought to look in them for Bristol people, so thanks for the tip. Regards, Nancy Frey Newcastle, Ontario, CANADA OPC for Ansford & Castle Cary, Somerset Moderator of Yahoo! Catsash Hundred Group Moderator of Yahoo! Glaston Twelve Hides Hundred Group Moderator of Yahoo! NorthWiltshire Group Moderator of Yahoo! SouthWiltshire Group Moderator of Yahoo! WestWiltshire Group Moderator of Yahoo! FULFORD_North Devon Group Moderator of Yahoo! DAVIDGE Connections Group ----- Original Message ----- From: "jim goodman" <[email protected]> To: "bristol district" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 9:11 PM Subject: [B&D] Somerset book a book full of Bristol family names The history and antiquities of Somersetshire;: being a general and ...: Volume 2, Parts 7-8 - Page 144 William Phelps - 1839 - Full view ... 11 {Thomas de Button 13 Occurs 1135 ; and again 1159 — Dugdale. Occurs in 1 160 — Godwin ; 1164 — Reg. ... To See of Exeter, 1292— Rymer Feed. vol. ii. p. 543. Died 1295— Reg. Wellen. To this See, 1302 — Reg. Wellen. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

a book full of Bristol family names The history and antiquities of Somersetshire;: being a general and ...: Volume 2, Parts 7-8 - Page 144 William Phelps - 1839 - Full view ... 11 {Thomas de Button 13 Occurs 1135 ; and again 1159 — Dugdale. Occurs in 1 160 — Godwin ; 1164 — Reg. ... To See of Exeter, 1292— Rymer Feed. vol. ii. p. 543. Died 1295— Reg. Wellen. To this See, 1302 — Reg. Wellen.

Can I ask - if this "girl" died, was she married and had child/children, if not surely there would not be any descendants from her, they would be from other members of the family. Barbara BNE QLD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charani" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 8:50 PM Subject: Re: [B&D] John HORWOOD hanged 1821 Bristol New Gaol >C Rihan wrote: >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Roy Stockdill" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 1:23 PM >> Subject: [B&D] John HORWOOD hanged 1821 Bristol New Gaol >> >> >> 4) Were descendants of the girl murdered by John Horwood traced and asked >> for their views? >> >> Were there any? > > Quite possible there are some given this quote: > > <quote> > Understandably, after this terrifying incident [vitriol thrown over > her] she became extremely nervous and when she saw him hanging about > her home a few weeks later she ran indoors and her family chased him > off. Defeated by the sheer weight of numbers, Horwood fled > </quote> > > It sounds as though she had some of brothers. > > -- > Charani (UK) > OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM > Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM > http://wsom-opc.org.uk > http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Charani and listers Although I knew previously about John Horwood being hanged at the new Bristol Gaol for killing a Hanham girl, I've often wondered if he was related to John Erwood born about 1802 who married into my Pollinger family of Riverside cottages at Hanham Mills on the banks of the River Avon. John Erwood married Ann Pollinger at Bitton church in 1826 and they lived at Hanham Mills by the 1841 census at least. The article says John Horwood lived at Hanham Mills too. Perhaps the two John's were related? With a thick local accent Horwood could easily be interpreted and written as Erwood in the Bitton and Hanham registers. I note there are a couple of female Erwoods at Walcot, Bath in 1851 and also Horwoods in parishes south of the River Avon over in Somerset parishes, and also some in Bristol, in fact in St George, the parish next to Hanham as you go towards Bristol. Am I distantly related by marriage to a murderer? Bernice

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C Rihan wrote: > I was thinking that it didn't sound as though she had a chance to get > married. > You are right that she could have had brothers and sisters who had > decendants. > > Neither surname is familiar to me, but the families may have moved away. > I can't see John Horwood and Eliza Balsum on my Bristol and Avon CDs > This http://www.flickr.com/photos/brizzlebornandbred/3240914647/ says > John was the youngest of 10 children and his father an ex-seaman and > his mother was Orkney born. That's miles from Hanham.I wonder how they met. Eliza would have been about 20 when she died and was being stalked by John HORWOOD, so, no, she wouldn't have had a chance to meet anyone. HORWOOD might be mistranscribed as HARWOOD. The IGI is good for finding possible alternative spellings of a name. It's very likely both families did move; the HORWOODs especially. They may not have been a Hanham family to start with and the children could have been born anywhere. Maybe FreeREG can offer an answer. If Mrs HORWOOD was in service in one of the ports that her future husband visited regularly, they could have struck up a friendship that developed. Her father might have been on one of the ships Mr HORWOOD served on. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/

Oh how lovely Pat, I'm glad my impulsive post has helped someone!! So many vicars would have left the father's section blank and we'd have been none the wiser. You're welcome!! Marion On 12 November 2010 22:04, Pat Hase <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Marion, > > Sarah is related to me!  On the 1871 census she is with her grandparents > Abraham & Caroline LONG but was entered as a Lilly a granddaughter  but I > didn't know her mother - I do now - thank you!  Ann was there as well. > Sarah is a 4th cousin once removed - not exactly close but nevertheless a > relative! > > Thank you > > Pat > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marion" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]>; "bristol district" > <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 12:18 PM > Subject: [B&D] GUNTER/LONG - helpful vicar! > > >> The Rev Barratt at Hanham may have helped someone out with a difficult >> family with this entry >> >> Marriage, 22nd March 1884 >> George Albert GUNTER, 20, bach, coal miner of Kingswood, child of Mary >> GUNTER, a singlewoman, operative in Cotton Factory >> and >> Sarah Lilly LONG, 19, sp, no occ of Kingswood, child of Ann LONG, a >> singlewoman >> >> witnesses were Abraham LONG and Charlotte ROGERS. >> >> They're not related to me at all, but it might help someone out >> >> Marion >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Charani" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 10:50 AM Subject: Re: [B&D] John HORWOOD hanged 1821 Bristol New Gaol >C Rihan wrote: >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Roy Stockdill" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 1:23 PM >> Subject: [B&D] John HORWOOD hanged 1821 Bristol New Gaol >> >> >> 4) Were descendants of the girl murdered by John Horwood traced and asked >> for their views? >> >> Were there any? > > Quite possible there are some given this quote: > > <quote> > Understandably, after this terrifying incident [vitriol thrown over > her] she became extremely nervous and when she saw him hanging about > her home a few weeks later she ran indoors and her family chased him > off. Defeated by the sheer weight of numbers, Horwood fled > </quote> > > It sounds as though she had some of brothers. I was thinking that it didn't sound as though she had a chance to get married. You are right that she could have had brothers and sisters who had decendants. Neither surname is familiar to me, but the families may have moved away. I can't see John Horwood and Eliza Balsum on my Bristol and Avon CDs This http://www.flickr.com/photos/brizzlebornandbred/3240914647/ says John was the youngest of 10 children and his father an ex-seaman and his mother was Orkney born. That's miles from Hanham.I wonder how they met. Caroline

Hi Marion, Sarah is related to me! On the 1871 census she is with her grandparents Abraham & Caroline LONG but was entered as a Lilly a granddaughter but I didn't know her mother - I do now - thank you! Ann was there as well. Sarah is a 4th cousin once removed - not exactly close but nevertheless a relative! Thank you Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marion" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; "bristol district" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 12:18 PM Subject: [B&D] GUNTER/LONG - helpful vicar! > The Rev Barratt at Hanham may have helped someone out with a difficult > family with this entry > > Marriage, 22nd March 1884 > George Albert GUNTER, 20, bach, coal miner of Kingswood, child of Mary > GUNTER, a singlewoman, operative in Cotton Factory > and > Sarah Lilly LONG, 19, sp, no occ of Kingswood, child of Ann LONG, a > singlewoman > > witnesses were Abraham LONG and Charlotte ROGERS. > > They're not related to me at all, but it might help someone out > > Marion > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

This description is from Pigot's Bristol directory of 1830. PILL, or St Georges Pill, in the hundred of Portbury and county of Somerset, is six miles from Bristol at the mouth of the Avon. This is the pilot station for the port of Bristol. The population is about 2,000. Bernice

The following is from Pigot's 1830 directory. Although a village in 1830 it's now very much a part of the city of Bristol. BRISLINGTON, is a neat village, in the county of Somerset, three miles from Bristol, on the Bath road. This is a very genteel neighbourhood, and is the residence of many opulent merchants of Bristol. Here is a private asylum for those afflicted with insanity, conducted by Dr Fox, upon the most humane and salutary principles, and has long been celebrated as one of the most superior establishments of its kind. The number of inhabitants in the parish in 1821 was 1,216. Bernice

The following is from Pigot's directory of 1830. ASHTON, or Long Ashton is about three miles from Bristol, in the same hundred and county as Bedminster, containing about 1,200 inhabitants. Bernice

The following description of Bedminster is from Pigot's 1830 directory but considering the amount of people living there and the industry in that area, the description is surprisingly short. 1830 BEDMINSTER, is in the hundred of Hartcliffe with Bedminster, is in Somersetshire but adjoining to Bristol by a continued street all the way from Redcliff Hill. Bernice

The following is a short description of the parish of Stapleton from Pigot's 1830 directory. Please note in those days Fishponds was included in the parish. The walks and scenery are still there around the river Frome there but the area is built up these days with many houses. 1830 STAPLETON two miles north east of Bristol, is chiefly the residence of retired families, and is remarkable for the beauties of its scenery and the delightful walks with which it is intersected and surrounded. Bernice

The Rev Barratt at Hanham may have helped someone out with a difficult family with this entry Marriage, 22nd March 1884 George Albert GUNTER, 20, bach, coal miner of Kingswood, child of Mary GUNTER, a singlewoman, operative in Cotton Factory and Sarah Lilly LONG, 19, sp, no occ of Kingswood, child of Ann LONG, a singlewoman witnesses were Abraham LONG and Charlotte ROGERS. They're not related to me at all, but it might help someone out Marion

C Rihan wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Roy Stockdill" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 1:23 PM > Subject: [B&D] John HORWOOD hanged 1821 Bristol New Gaol > > > 4) Were descendants of the girl murdered by John Horwood traced and asked > for their views? > > Were there any? Quite possible there are some given this quote: <quote> Understandably, after this terrifying incident [vitriol thrown over her] she became extremely nervous and when she saw him hanging about her home a few weeks later she ran indoors and her family chased him off. Defeated by the sheer weight of numbers, Horwood fled </quote> It sounds as though she had some of brothers. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/

My Dad was too young for WWI and too old for WWII. Dad's Army: Edward signed up to serve in the (LDV) Local Defence Volunteers, which was formed 14 May 1940 & later known as the (HG)Home Guard. By June 1940 over a million men were enrolled. They were largely Infantry, the force was based on the regimental system and became battalions of their county regiment. During the War II, he served in the King's Regiment (Liverpool) Home Guard (1940-45). Lance Corporal #NE AE 921. The Defence Medal was issued 29th November 1948 but not sure if he ever received it as he was leaving Bristol at the time. The medal had been sent to his home in Tuebrook, Liverpool. The new occupants should have returned the medal to the Defense Dept. Actually, he left Temple Meads Station for Southampton around that time. He was supposed to leave on the 29th November but the vessel was held up due to fog. He sailed from Southampton > Halifax aboard the RMS Aquitania Nov. 30th, arriving 7th December 1948. Contract Ticket No. 182015. He disembarked at Pier 21, Halifax. My Mum, brother and I arrived in Canada in February 1949. Edna - Ottawa