You are welcome. There will be more SAGEs coming up in the December update on FreeREG, but this one is just a little too recent to be included in that file at present. Yvonne -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Charani Sent: Wednesday, 1 December 2010 8:27 PM To: B+D List Subject: [B&D] [Fwd: Re: SAGE - Wellow marriage] Yvonne Scrivener wrote: > Does this SAGE fit into one of the SAGE families that have been discussed > recently? > > Entry 362, 17 Apr 1911, > Wilfrid SAGE, 23, bachelor, baker, Knowle Bristol [father] Thomas Lacey > SAGE, baker > Florence Rhoda CRADDOCK, 23, spinster, Double Hill Wellow [father] William > James CRADDOCK, farmer > Witnesses: Edward Colston SAGE, Albert E SCAMMELL, Edith Elsie CRADDOCK, > Madeline M SCAMMELL Thank you for relaying this :)) I don't know if it fits with my SAGEs yet but I'll make a note of it just in case. I think there's a CRADDOCK researcher on the list as well. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5663 (20101201) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com

Yvonne Scrivener wrote: > You are welcome. > > There will be more SAGEs coming up in the December update on FreeREG, but > this one is just a little too recent to be included in that file at present. I'll have a look again after Christmas. Thanks for the tip :)) -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/

Yvonne Scrivener wrote: > Does this SAGE fit into one of the SAGE families that have been discussed > recently? > > Entry 362, 17 Apr 1911, > Wilfrid SAGE, 23, bachelor, baker, Knowle Bristol [father] Thomas Lacey > SAGE, baker > Florence Rhoda CRADDOCK, 23, spinster, Double Hill Wellow [father] William > James CRADDOCK, farmer > Witnesses: Edward Colston SAGE, Albert E SCAMMELL, Edith Elsie CRADDOCK, > Madeline M SCAMMELL Thank you for relaying this :)) I don't know if it fits with my SAGEs yet but I'll make a note of it just in case. I think there's a CRADDOCK researcher on the list as well. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-11827092 A short piece on the service held to mark the first major bombing of Bristol in WWII with links to two other articles. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/

On Mon, 29 Nov 2010 12:42:27 -0500 "liverpud" <[email protected]> wrote: Hello liverpud, > Yes, and slavery continues today but probably not as well organized. For "not as well" I suggest you read "better" since it has to avoid the gaze of the authorities. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent"

On 29 Nov 2010 at 10:42, liverpud wrote: > Some registers.... sad but true. > I'm afraid that comment could be applied equally to large slices of history! Slavery always seems to arouse more emotion than most historical events, for obvious reasons, but it seems little different to me than the fate of millions of people who were slaughtered in wars. At least there are registers of some of the slaves, so we know who they were. It's often forgotten there were slaves in Britain under the Normans - it's even possible some of our ancestors were among them - but there are no records of them, as far as I'm aware. -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

Yes, and slavery continues today but probably not as well organized. All the best, Edna - Ottawa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Stockdill" <[email protected]> To: "Bristol-District" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 11:40 AM Subject: Re: [B&D] Colonial Slave Registers - Ancestry On 29 Nov 2010 at 10:42, liverpud wrote: > Some registers.... sad but true. > I'm afraid that comment could be applied equally to large slices of history! Slavery always seems to arouse more emotion than most historical events, for obvious reasons, but it seems little different to me than the fate of millions of people who were slaughtered in wars. At least there are registers of some of the slaves, so we know who they were. It's often forgotten there were slaves in Britain under the Normans - it's even possible some of our ancestors were among them - but there are no records of them, as far as I'm aware. -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

Ian Sage wrote: > Several people have sent appreciative messages, directed at least partly > toward myself. But the truth is, the reason people care about the OPC > project coordination is largely down to the huge amount of effort and > dedication Jim has put into it. Please direct your thanks strictly > toward him. Indeed, Jim has done a tremendous amount of work and I don't think the Somerset OPC project, which started life as the West Somerset OPC Project IIRC and grew, is the only one he runs (or ran). This is definitely much appreciated by all who have had cause to call on the various transcriptions made by the OPCs. Had you not taken on Jim's mantle, the Project would have ended and for that reason OPCs and researchers do appreciate your volunteering to step in. You know what they say about a friend in need ;)) > I am also very grateful and relieved that Jim has agreed to hold my hand > during a transition period. He's a grand lad :)) > With the help and goodwill of all, I hope we can continue to develop the > project as he'd wish. I'm sure we can and will :) -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/

Some registers.... sad but true. Edna ~ Ottawa http://search.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=1129&cj=1&sid=Slave+Registers+of+Former+British+Colonial+Dependencies&o_xid=0000195520&o_lid=0000195520

Charani wrote: > His second wife was Selina EDWARDS. They neatly named their son > Edward. However, I have still not been able to find out anythng more > about their son, John. Oops!! It's just been pointed out to me that George and Selina's son was *James*, not John. I'm not the first to muddle a John and a James by any means but I wonder why two such dissimilar names do get mixed up. James was born around 1849/1850 yet there's apparently no birth registration for him as James SAGE born in the Bristol RD, only one in Clutton. Since Selina's sister was staying with them (and shown as married when she wasn't), I wondered if young James was hers and taken on by Selina and George. There was a birth for a James EDWARDS born Bristol RD but his parents were John and Mary. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/

This is wonderful news! Thank you Ian, for taking on more work :) Yvonne Scrivener Canberra ACT Australia -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jshep I would like to thank all those who have replied both on and off the list regarding the possible closure of the Somerset Online Parish Clerk Project. I am pleased to report that Ian Sage, the OPC for Nailsea will be our new coordinator. Ian and I will work together to ensure a smooth transition of the project and the website with its associated databases. We will keep you informed through this list and on the website (http://www.wsom-opc.org.uk/).

What great news! As one of the Somerset OPCs I look forward to working with Ian and can't thank him enough for stepping forward to fill Jim's shoes (if that's possible, lol). Regards, Nancy Frey Newcastle, Ontario, CANADA OPC for Ansford & Castle Cary, Somerset Moderator of Yahoo! Catsash Hundred Group Moderator of Yahoo! Glaston Twelve Hides Hundred Group Moderator of Yahoo! NorthWiltshire Group Moderator of Yahoo! SouthWiltshire Group Moderator of Yahoo! WestWiltshire Group Moderator of Yahoo! FULFORD_North Devon Group Moderator of Yahoo! DAVIDGE Connections Group ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jshep" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 8:44 AM Subject: [B&D] Somerset Online Parish Clerk Project >I would like to thank all those who have replied both on and off the > list regarding the possible closure of the Somerset Online Parish Clerk > Project. I am pleased to report that Ian Sage, the OPC for Nailsea will > be our new coordinator. Ian and I will work together to ensure a smooth > transition of the project and the website with its associated databases. > We will keep you informed through this list and on the website > (http://www.wsom-opc.org.uk/). > > Jim

Several people have sent appreciative messages, directed at least partly toward myself. But the truth is, the reason people care about the OPC project coordination is largely down to the huge amount of effort and dedication Jim has put into it. Please direct your thanks strictly toward him. I am also very grateful and relieved that Jim has agreed to hold my hand during a transition period. With the help and goodwill of all, I hope we can continue to develop the project as he'd wish. Ian

That's brilliant! An excellent outcome for the OPC Project for Somerset . With thanks to Jim for all he's done and every confidence that Ian's the right person to take it on - someone with skill, experience and a knowledge of Somerset! Thanks Ian. Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jshep" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 1:44 PM Subject: [B&D] Somerset Online Parish Clerk Project >I would like to thank all those who have replied both on and off the > list regarding the possible closure of the Somerset Online Parish Clerk > Project. I am pleased to report that Ian Sage, the OPC for Nailsea will > be our new coordinator. Ian and I will work together to ensure a smooth > transition of the project and the website with its associated databases. > We will keep you informed through this list and on the website > (http://www.wsom-opc.org.uk/). > > Jim >

Very good news indeed Jim - many thanks to Ian - the project will stay in safe hands. Anne -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jshep Sent: 27 November 2010 13:45 To: [email protected] Subject: [B&D] Somerset Online Parish Clerk Project I would like to thank all those who have replied both on and off the list regarding the possible closure of the Somerset Online Parish Clerk Project. I am pleased to report that Ian Sage, the OPC for Nailsea will be our new coordinator. Ian and I will work together to ensure a smooth transition of the project and the website with its associated databases. We will keep you informed through this list and on the website (http://www.wsom-opc.org.uk/). Jim ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jshep wrote: > I would like to thank all those who have replied both on and off the > list regarding the possible closure of the Somerset Online Parish Clerk > Project. I am pleased to report that Ian Sage, the OPC for Nailsea will > be our new coordinator. Ian and I will work together to ensure a smooth > transition of the project and the website with its associated databases. > We will keep you informed through this list and on the website > (http://www.wsom-opc.org.uk/). That's excellent news :)) It must be something of a relief for you as well, Jim. Thank you very much, Ian, for picking up the baton :)) I promise I won't lob any transcriptions in your direction until the New Year. I'll let you get your feet firmly under the co-ordinator's desk first ;)) -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/

That is excellent news Jim and Ian, I am sure you will do a great job. Thank you, Cathy

I would like to thank all those who have replied both on and off the list regarding the possible closure of the Somerset Online Parish Clerk Project. I am pleased to report that Ian Sage, the OPC for Nailsea will be our new coordinator. Ian and I will work together to ensure a smooth transition of the project and the website with its associated databases. We will keep you informed through this list and on the website (http://www.wsom-opc.org.uk/). Jim

Does this SAGE fit into one of the SAGE families that have been discussed recently? Entry 362, 17 Apr 1911, Wilfrid SAGE, 23, bachelor, baker, Knowle Bristol [father] Thomas Lacey SAGE, baker Florence Rhoda CRADDOCK, 23, spinster, Double Hill Wellow [father] William James CRADDOCK, farmer Witnesses: Edward Colston SAGE, Albert E SCAMMELL, Edith Elsie CRADDOCK, Madeline M SCAMMELL I have no interest in the name - just spotted him whilst checking a file. Yvonne Scrivener Canberra ACT Australia

Subject: MANLEY Birth 1865q1 look-up please Please would someone be kind enough to look-up the birth/baptism of Albert Edward MANLEY, which according to FreeBMD took place in Bristol in the March quarter of 1865 - Volume 6A Page 19. His parents, Thomas and Lucy Ann Manley had eleven surviving children, all born and baptized in Wrexham, Denbighshire - actually not all, because Albert Edward's baptism is missing from the records held at St.Giles Parish Church, Wrexham. Both Wrexham and North Wales BMD records show Albert's birth in 1867 where there's just a 66 week gap between adjacent siblings, so someone got short-changed. After seeing the FreeBMD record mentioning Bristol and knowing Lucy-Ann Luck was born 21 Jan 1835 in Clifton, her father Daniel died in 1865q2 in Birminham, her mother Caroline died in 1878q3 aged 82 in Wrexham, I'm speculating that Lucy Ann might have been visiting her Mum or else another relative in Bristol, when she gave birth to Albert. Thomas Manley was described on his children's baptism records as a Spirit Merchant in 1860 and 1862 and a Wine Merchant on 29 October 1865, 1866 and 1868. Perhaps he was in Bristol for business reasons. My mother told me perhaps 50 or 60 years ago, that 'Uncle' Albert suffered a disabling back injury while working on a distant island with a wine & spirits company. My grandmother had lots of 'tropical' sea-shells that I played with as a young child. Thanks, Tony in White Rock, BC, Canada