Happy New Year everyone! I am reposting our interest in the Sellicks of Puriton, Somerset. William Sellick born 1811 was the 2nd Great Grandfather of my husband, and we have very little information about the family other than he was married to Sarah, and they had 5 children. If anyone is connected to this family, I would be interested to hear from you. Regards, Lin
Thanks Edna!! (hi Josephine - so glad to hear you're still around..... maybe we'll get back to those SUMMERILLs some time.... mine are the Mangotsfield line... coalminers... my 2xggrand-father Isaac - born 1823, Mangotsfield; died 30 Dec 1877; cause of death: "Carbuncle 14 days, exhaustion, injury from gas explosion". I'm curious to know what might have been the circumstances....... was there a big explosion in the mines about then?? So many questions.... Margaret -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of liverpud Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2011 6:08 PM To: JoJeremiah Cc: Bristol-District Subject: [B&D] Healthy New Year! Josephine, Thanks so much for your hard work during the year. Also to the other people transcribing information for the benefit of us all. I'll tuck those interesting articles away for future reference... A healthy and prosperous New Year to you all. (;-)) Edna - sunny Ottawa ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________ NOD32 5752 (20110101) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com
Hello Margaret, Did Isaac have a daughter called Mary? There is a report in the Bristol Mercury of Saturday, 3rd October 1868 LAWFORD GATE PETTY SESSION A young woman named Mary Summerill, was charged with stealing a pair of boots, a chemise, an apron, a pair of stockings, a flannel petticoat, and a straw hat value 10s the property of her father Isaac Summerill of St George's. She was discharged, the complainant refusing to prosecute. There was a pit explosion at Bedminster and a Mr Day died in that gas explosion but no mention of anyone else dying. That report was 10th November 1877. There are no other accidents in the Bristol or Gloucestershire area that coincide with the death of Isaac Summerill or anyone else. Liz www.btinternet.com/~e.newbery OPC for Street, Somerset ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Hayon" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2011 6:54 PM Subject: Re: [B&D] Healthy New Year! > Thanks Edna!! > > (hi Josephine - so glad to hear you're still around..... maybe we'll get > back to those SUMMERILLs some time.... mine are the Mangotsfield line... > coalminers... my 2xggrand-father Isaac - born 1823, Mangotsfield; died 30 > Dec 1877; cause of death: "Carbuncle 14 days, exhaustion, injury from gas > explosion". I'm curious to know what might have been the > circumstances....... was there a big explosion in the mines about then?? > > So many questions.... > > Margaret > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of liverpud > Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2011 6:08 PM > To: JoJeremiah > Cc: Bristol-District > Subject: [B&D] Healthy New Year! > > Josephine, Thanks so much for your hard work during the year. Also to > the other people transcribing information for the benefit of us all. > I'll > > tuck those > interesting articles away for future reference... > > A healthy and prosperous New Year to you all. > > (;-)) > > Edna - sunny Ottawa > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > __________ NOD32 5752 (20110101) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Charani and the list, Thanks so much for your help and to others during the year. Have certainly put some more branches on my tree. Thanks also for your good humour when I stray from the path.... A healthy and prosperous New Year to you all. (;-)) Edna - sunny Ottawa
Happy New Year everyone! I am reposting our interest in the Sellicks of Puriton, Somerset. William Sellick born 1811 was the 2nd Great Grandfather (maternal side) of my husband Allan Colbourn, and we have very little information about the family other than he was married to Sarah, and they had 5 children. If anyone is connected to this family, I would be interested to hear from you. Regards, Lin
Josephine, Thanks so much for your hard work during the year. Also to the other people transcribing information for the benefit of us all. I'll tuck those interesting articles away for future reference... A healthy and prosperous New Year to you all. (;-)) Edna - sunny Ottawa
Hi Lesley, He is not my direct family but 'adopted' my great aunt Edith Mary NOWELL sometime in the 1890s and she was married from that house. The B. P. & L are the initials of the stockbroking firm 'Bryant, Perry and Lowe' who were situated at 3 St Stephen Street. (Thank you Josephine Jeremiah). I assume that there is no connection to your PERRYs Regards and have a wonderful New Year, David Bossenger 4. Re: BRISTOL_AND_DISTRICT Digest, Vol 4, Issue 445 (Lesley Dawson) Dear David What caught my eye was the name PERRY as we have them on our tree! I looked up a CD I have: "Bristol & Subarban 1896 Alphabetical Name Directory" in the vague chance your man might be there, but you had given enough information for me to find him: Henry Charles PERRY (B.P.&.L) The Wilderness 9 Woodstock Road Redlands Green. Maybe you'll understand what the (B.P. & L) is as there is nothing like it after the names of others in the directory! Hope this helps and have a Happy New Year! Lesley Dawson
Dear David What caught my eye was the name PERRY as we have them on our tree! I looked up a CD I have: "Bristol & Subarban 1896 Alphabetical Name Directory" in the vague chance your man might be there, but you had given enough information for me to find him: Henry Charles PERRY (B.P.&.L) The Wilderness 9 Woodstock Road Redlands Green. Maybe you'll understand what the (B.P. & L) is as there is nothing like it after the names of others in the directory! Hope this helps and have a Happy New Year! Lesley Dawson FreeCEN co-ordinator for the 1891 & 1861 censuses for Devon http://www.freecen.org.uk/cgi/search.pl > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David and > Mary Bossenger > Sent: 29 December 2010 04:00 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [B&D] Property records in Bristol > > Once again thank you to all who certainly enlightened me. > I am actually looking for two residences in the UK. One in Bristol: 9 > Woodstock Rd, Redlands which is now used by the girls school over the road. > The period in question is 1890-1930. I suspect the owner was one H Charles > PERRY. I approached the school in person in 2004 but without any joy. As I > will be over for my youngest son's wedding in April I thought that there > would be some place that would be able to supply the answer. I now realize > that it will be more complicated that I thought. > The second is "Avalon", the Avenue, Kingston near Lewes and between > 1910-1940. > Now if only there was a Deeds Office it would be simple :-) > David Bossenger > > > 4. Property records in England (David and Mary Bossenger) > 5. Re: Property records in England (Charani) > 6. Re: Property records in England (Liz) > > > >
I have JEFFERIS in my family tree originating from Fordingbridge, Hampshire - earliest I have is 1804. Then there is Anne JEFFREY (married William HINTON) circa 1733 in Wilton. Finally, Elizabeth JEFFERIES (married Robert FOX) circa 1800 from Swindon, Wiltshire. Susan -----Original Message----- From: Chris Jefferies Sent: Friday, December 31, 2010 4:30 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [B&D] Surname Jefferies (Resend as original did not get to the list) There is a JEFFERY web site which claims that JEFFERIES and some variations originate from Wales but there are no facts or details given to confirm this. Similarly it says that JEFFREY has Scottish origins and JEFFRIS has French origins. However I cannot see how a minor change in spelling at a time when few people could read and write can be taken to mean a major change in origin. >From the mid 1700s I have always considered JEFFERIES, JEFFRIES, JEFFERIS, JEFFERYS & JEFFREYS as interchangeable. In earlier registers the name is often spelt with a G instead of a J. My G G Grandfather's surname was spelt three different ways in different documents because he could not write so the spelling depends on how the particular vicar, enumerator etc thought it should be spelt. When he was baptised at Siston his surname was spelt JEFFERIS as are the majority baptised in that parish. Of his children baptised at Pucklechurch three are JEFFERIES and two are JEFFERIS. The later children were baptised JEFFERIES in Mangotsfield where that is the usual spelling. In one census his name was spelt JEFFERYS. I have memories of my uncles with their strong Bristol accent always pronouncing our surname "JEFFRIS" so its easy to see how spellings can change. According to the surname profiler in the I881 census listed below is the area were the Surname variations was most common:- JEFFERIES Swindon followed by Bristol(BS) and Gloucester (the GL postcode area not the city) JEFFERIS Salisbury followed by Bristol JEFFRIES Swindon JEFFERYS Swindon JEFFREYS Swansea JEFFERY Torquay I have never seen any connection between the families living in the Bristol area and those living in the Swindon area. Chris Jefferies Cheltenham Glos ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
In this month's Family Tree Magazine in the Pass it on article there is mention of a WW1 medal (type not mentioned ) for 150394 GNR Herbert H Terrell (Royal Field Artillery) coming from the Bristol areal...... A quick bit of research...... he was born Barton Regis 1880 and was with his grandfather Thomas a cooper bn c1820 Rumsey (sic) Hampshire and presumably mother Sarah an ironer bn 1853 Stanton Drew. Address Trafalgar Cottages St P & J A Thomas Terrell married Sarah Bush Sep 1875 Bedminster.....he may have been born Dec 1849 Bedminster Maybe someone has a connection Grant
(Resend as original did not get to the list) There is a JEFFERY web site which claims that JEFFERIES and some variations originate from Wales but there are no facts or details given to confirm this. Similarly it says that JEFFREY has Scottish origins and JEFFRIS has French origins. However I cannot see how a minor change in spelling at a time when few people could read and write can be taken to mean a major change in origin. >From the mid 1700s I have always considered JEFFERIES, JEFFRIES, JEFFERIS, JEFFERYS & JEFFREYS as interchangeable. In earlier registers the name is often spelt with a G instead of a J. My G G Grandfather's surname was spelt three different ways in different documents because he could not write so the spelling depends on how the particular vicar, enumerator etc thought it should be spelt. When he was baptised at Siston his surname was spelt JEFFERIS as are the majority baptised in that parish. Of his children baptised at Pucklechurch three are JEFFERIES and two are JEFFERIS. The later children were baptised JEFFERIES in Mangotsfield where that is the usual spelling. In one census his name was spelt JEFFERYS. I have memories of my uncles with their strong Bristol accent always pronouncing our surname "JEFFRIS" so its easy to see how spellings can change. According to the surname profiler in the I881 census listed below is the area were the Surname variations was most common:- JEFFERIES Swindon followed by Bristol(BS) and Gloucester (the GL postcode area not the city) JEFFERIS Salisbury followed by Bristol JEFFRIES Swindon JEFFERYS Swindon JEFFREYS Swansea JEFFERY Torquay I have never seen any connection between the families living in the Bristol area and those living in the Swindon area. Chris Jefferies Cheltenham Glos
On 30 Dec 2010 at 20:56, Chris Jefferies wrote: > Roy > > There may only be 81 people of the name born in that period but it is > less than one per year. As I was born within a year of the man > arrested and have a lot of connections with Bristol it is a reasonable > assumption that people who have not actually met me or seen a > photograph to wonder if I am that person. I have had several off list > emails from people on this and other lists saying that they had indeed > done that so it was a good job that I sent the email.> What can I say, Chris, except that we're all delighted it isn't you! -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE
Roy There may only be 81 people of the name born in that period but it is less than one per year. As I was born within a year of the man arrested and have a lot of connections with Bristol it is a reasonable assumption that people who have not actually met me or seen a photograph to wonder if I am that person. I have had several off list emails from people on this and other lists saying that they had indeed done that so it was a good job that I sent the email. Chris Jefferies Cheltenham Glos From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Roy Stockdill Sent: 30 December 2010 13:38 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [B&D] Jefferies On 30 Dec 2010 at 12:05, Chris Jefferies wrote: > Its not a good day to be called Chris Jefferies!! > > Yesterday on the TV news when they announced that they had an > interview with the murdered Bristol girl's landlord called Chris > Jefferies I had a very strange feeling as I waited to see what he > looked like. It was a very odd interview and when they first announced > this morning that "someone" had been arrested I knew immediately it > was him. > > I am not aware of anyone else of that name on my tree so if there is a > family connection it is a very distant one as Jefferies is quite a > common surname around Bristol. Perhaps I should try and trace his > family back to see if there is a connection as its always good to have > a connection to someone famous or infamous. Some years ago I Googled > my name and most hits were for someone in Bristol but I don't think it > was him as he I believe is a lecturer and the person I found like me > worked in IT. > You are hardly alone! A quick search of the birth indexes at FMP shows 81 males called Christopher Jefferies born between 1916 and 2006, six of them in Bristol. However, according to press reports, the Chris Jefferies who has been charged was born at Grimsby, Lincolnshire, and this accords with a Christopher J E Jefferies born there in 1945. If you were to read that a Roy Stockdill had been charged with murder I couldn't claim it wasn't me, since I am the only one of the name in the entire birth indexes right from 1837 ! There was only one other of my name in the whole world, as far as I am aware, who was in Texas, but he died in 1983. If anyone ever comes across another, do let me know. -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3347 - Release Date: 12/29/10
We'll have to form a club, Roy.There's nobody else named Joy Pountain either, although there is a wrongly transcribed lady in one of the Censuses - turned out she was really Ivy, written badly!! Kind regards Joy [Pountain] Hungerford Roy Stockdill wrote:- > If you were to read that a Roy Stockdill had been charged with murder I couldn't claim > it wasn't me, since I am the only one of the name in the entire birth indexes right from > 1837 ! There was only one other of my name in the whole world, as far as I am aware, > who was in Texas, but he died in 1983. > > If anyone ever comes across another, do let me know.
There is no one with my sister's name in the whole of the index and, as she wasn't born in UK or any other area in the world where you are likely to find her, she could be lost!! Her marriage is there and she's on some of the Electoral Rolls. She was born in the Middle East but with a very Western name. I wondered where that Christopher Jefferies had originated, I didn't think he was from Bristol. Liz www.btinternet.com/~e.newbery OPC for Street, Somerset ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Stockdill" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 1:37 PM Subject: Re: [B&D] Jefferies > > You are hardly alone! A quick search of the birth indexes at FMP shows 81 > males > called Christopher Jefferies born between 1916 and 2006, six of them in > Bristol. > > However, according to press reports, the Chris Jefferies who has been > charged was > born at Grimsby, Lincolnshire, and this accords with a Christopher J E > Jefferies born > there in 1945. > > If you were to read that a Roy Stockdill had been charged with murder I > couldn't claim > it wasn't me, since I am the only one of the name in the entire birth > indexes right from > 1837 ! There was only one other of my name in the whole world, as far as I > am aware, > who was in Texas, but he died in 1983. > > If anyone ever comes across another, do let me know. > > -- > Roy Stockdill > Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer > Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: > www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html > > "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, > and that is not being talked about." > OSCAR WILDE > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Thank you Ian, for your time, your patience and your kindness in transcribing these records, May you have a happy and healthy New Year, Cathy
On 30 Dec 2010 at 12:05, Chris Jefferies wrote: > Its not a good day to be called Chris Jefferies!! > > Yesterday on the TV news when they announced that they had an > interview with the murdered Bristol girl's landlord called Chris > Jefferies I had a very strange feeling as I waited to see what he > looked like. It was a very odd interview and when they first announced > this morning that "someone" had been arrested I knew immediately it > was him. > > I am not aware of anyone else of that name on my tree so if there is a > family connection it is a very distant one as Jefferies is quite a > common surname around Bristol. Perhaps I should try and trace his > family back to see if there is a connection as its always good to have > a connection to someone famous or infamous. Some years ago I Googled > my name and most hits were for someone in Bristol but I don't think it > was him as he I believe is a lecturer and the person I found like me > worked in IT. > You are hardly alone! A quick search of the birth indexes at FMP shows 81 males called Christopher Jefferies born between 1916 and 2006, six of them in Bristol. However, according to press reports, the Chris Jefferies who has been charged was born at Grimsby, Lincolnshire, and this accords with a Christopher J E Jefferies born there in 1945. If you were to read that a Roy Stockdill had been charged with murder I couldn't claim it wasn't me, since I am the only one of the name in the entire birth indexes right from 1837 ! There was only one other of my name in the whole world, as far as I am aware, who was in Texas, but he died in 1983. If anyone ever comes across another, do let me know. -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE
Its not a good day to be called Chris Jefferies!! Yesterday on the TV news when they announced that they had an interview with the murdered Bristol girl's landlord called Chris Jefferies I had a very strange feeling as I waited to see what he looked like. It was a very odd interview and when they first announced this morning that "someone" had been arrested I knew immediately it was him. I am not aware of anyone else of that name on my tree so if there is a family connection it is a very distant one as Jefferies is quite a common surname around Bristol. Perhaps I should try and trace his family back to see if there is a connection as its always good to have a connection to someone famous or infamous. Some years ago I Googled my name and most hits were for someone in Bristol but I don't think it was him as he I believe is a lecturer and the person I found like me worked in IT. Chris Jefferies Cheltenham Glos
As a small Christmas offering to all, I have posted transcriptions of the burial records of Nailsea Christ Church, 1847-1910, on my website at http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/ian.sage These records are not available at Taunton, but are made available through the kindness of the church wardens. Marriage records will follow - eventually. Best wishes, Ian Sage
WikiName says: The name Jeffrey is a variation on the name Geoffrey, which originates from the Middle English Geffrey and stems further back to the Old French Geoffroi. The name is suggested to stem from various German names including Gaufrid, Walahfrid and Gisfrid. The name Gaufrid is a combination of govja meaning "a district" and frithu meaning "peace." The name Walahfrid is a combination of valha meaning "traveler" and frithu meaning "peace." The name Gisfrid is a combination of gis meaning "pledge" and frithu meaning "peace." The Gaelic forms of Geoffrey are "Sieffre" and "Seathrun" from Seafra and Seafraid meaning "God's peace." Edna - Ottawa Healthy New Year to all