Joy Hungerford wrote: > I think one of my research weaknesses is that I assume people > stayed put - but they jolly well didn't! It's also very easy to > miss an event which took place in one of the very next villages. To say nothing of marriages in clandestine churches. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/

I think one of my research weaknesses is that I assume people stayed put - but they jolly well didn't!  It's also very easy to miss an event which took place in one of the very next villages. Kind regards Joy > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 10:54:32 +0000 > Subject: [B&D] St James, Bristol was(John BEACHAM b 1817; William and Robert BEECHAM/ BEACHAM) > > Interesting Joy as I have Chew Magna people marrying at St James, Bristol > too. I thought it was really too far away but I'm now happy that you have > them marrying there too, > Liz > www.btinternet.com/~e.newbery > OPC for Street, Somerset

----- Forwarded Message ---- From: Janet Cuff <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, 17 January, 2011 20:28:08 Subject: Re: [B&S] BROWNE William, Bristol Burgess, stationer, 1823 (was BROWNE William Merchant of Bristol) Many thanks Josephine and Bernice for your help.  I think this could well be the William Browne I am looking for though I am puzzled that he is described as a merchant rather than a bookseller.  I found his daughter's baptisms in the Non conformist records, but it doesn't specify which chapel was used.  I shall keep digging, Janet       ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am trying to find more information concerning William Browne Born 1791, I believe in Bridgwater, but showing on the 1841 census as living in Richmond Hill, Bristol with his daughters, Fanny 20, Mary 18 and Lucy 16.  By 1851 William is not to be found so I am unable to be certain of his birth county.  Has anyone access to Trade Directories etc which might give me some clue as to his line of business or indeed any other details. At the time of his daughters' births he was living in Trinity St, St Augustine, Bristol. Many thanks in advance of any help, Janet  

Hi Janet In 1830 Pigot's Bristol directory there was a William Browne, bookseller at 29 Clare Street which was probably a business address. Other William Browns but the above is the only one spelt Browne. HTH Bernice

just noticed the Bristol 1793/4 trade directory shows a Philip BEACHAM tenniscourt in Bedminster much of the literature on BEACHAMP leads to Hatch-Beauchamp not sure if name developed from BEAUCHAMP On 17-Jan-11, at 2:43 AM, Joy Hungerford wrote: > > > > > > Well, David, let me tell you what I have on Peter and Hester. > Peter was b abt 1770, SOM and Hester abt 1783 Chew Magna, SOM. By > 1851, Hester is a widow. I have no d/o/d for Peter, but it must be > between 1841 and 1851. > They married 28 Jul 1805, Chew Magna.Their children, all bp Chew > Magna, are:- > Maria 6 Apr 1806 Maria 21 Aug 1808 Elizabeth 29 Dec 1811 John 19 > Oct 1817 Hester 7 Jan 1821 Sarah 24 Aug 1823 William 22 Jul 1827 > So it looks as if your mystery William and Robert are in the > previous generation. > I have a similar problem with Peter and his siblings, including my > 3GGF, James, bp 15 Jun 1788, George b abt 1775 and Charlotte b abt > 1795. > In fact, I'd constructed this family of four siblings and had to > name their father 'X' until I found out who he was. > > Pat Hase was enormously helpful about this and discovered that a > James, s/o James and Mary BEACHAM, was bp at Chew Magna and that a > James BEACHAM m a Sarah TAYLOR at Bristol St James 21 Nov 1814, > the only candidates so far for my 4GGP. > > Whether the four siblings are the only children James and Mary had, > I don't know, but I have to say it looks as though there is a > William- and Robert-shaped space in that line-up. > If this looks at all helpful, I'll let you know anything else I > have on the family. > > Kind regards > Joy > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message

Interesting Joy as I have Chew Magna people marrying at St James, Bristol too. I thought it was really too far away but I'm now happy that you have them marrying there too, Liz www.btinternet.com/~e.newbery OPC for Street, Somerset ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joy Hungerford" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 10:43 AM Subject: Re: [B&D] John BEACHAM b 1817; William and Robert BEECHAM/ BEACHAM. Well, David, let me tell you what I have on Peter and Hester. Peter was b abt 1770, SOM and Hester abt 1783 Chew Magna, SOM. By 1851, Hester is a widow. I have no d/o/d for Peter, but it must be between 1841 and 1851. They married 28 Jul 1805, Chew Magna.Their children, all bp Chew Magna, are:- Maria 6 Apr 1806 Maria 21 Aug 1808 Elizabeth 29 Dec 1811 John 19 Oct 1817 Hester 7 Jan 1821 Sarah 24 Aug 1823 William 22 Jul 1827 So it looks as if your mystery William and Robert are in the previous generation. I have a similar problem with Peter and his siblings, including my 3GGF, James, bp 15 Jun 1788, George b abt 1775 and Charlotte b abt 1795. In fact, I'd constructed this family of four siblings and had to name their father 'X' until I found out who he was. Pat Hase was enormously helpful about this and discovered that a James, s/o James and Mary BEACHAM, was bp at Chew Magna and that a James BEACHAM m a Sarah TAYLOR at Bristol St James 21 Nov 1814, the only candidates so far for my 4GGP. Whether the four siblings are the only children James and Mary had, I don't know, but I have to say it looks as though there is a William- and Robert-shaped space in that line-up. If this looks at all helpful, I'll let you know anything else I have on the family. Kind regards Joy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Well, David, let me tell you what I have on Peter and Hester. Peter was b abt 1770, SOM and Hester abt 1783 Chew Magna, SOM. By 1851, Hester is a widow. I have no d/o/d for Peter, but it must be between 1841 and 1851. They married 28 Jul 1805, Chew Magna.Their children, all bp Chew Magna, are:- Maria 6 Apr 1806 Maria 21 Aug 1808 Elizabeth 29 Dec 1811 John 19 Oct 1817 Hester 7 Jan 1821 Sarah 24 Aug 1823 William 22 Jul 1827 So it looks as if your mystery William and Robert are in the previous generation. I have a similar problem with Peter and his siblings, including my 3GGF, James, bp 15 Jun 1788, George b abt 1775 and Charlotte b abt 1795.  In fact, I'd constructed this family of four siblings and had to name their father 'X' until I found out who he was. Pat Hase was enormously helpful about this and discovered that a James, s/o James and Mary BEACHAM, was bp at Chew Magna and that a James BEACHAM  m a Sarah TAYLOR at Bristol St James 21 Nov 1814, the only candidates so far for my 4GGP. Whether the four siblings are the only children James and Mary had, I don't know, but I have to say it looks as though there is a William- and Robert-shaped space in that line-up. If this looks at all helpful, I'll let you know anything else I have on the family. Kind regards Joy

the name does appear in poll books in Bristol 1734 Charles BEACHAM(P) carpenter St. Augustine's 1774 Philip BEACHAM coalminer Bedminster Samuel BEACHAM hooper St. Thomas also Wiltshire 1772 Andrew BEACHAM Winterslow jim further afield finds in Oxfordshire and London On 17-Jan-11, at 2:43 AM, Joy Hungerford wrote: > > > > > > Well, David, let me tell you what I have on Peter and Hester. > Peter was b abt 1770, SOM and Hester abt 1783 Chew Magna, SOM. By > 1851, Hester is a widow. I have no d/o/d for Peter, but it must be > between 1841 and 1851. > They married 28 Jul 1805, Chew Magna.Their children, all bp Chew > Magna, are:- > Maria 6 Apr 1806 Maria 21 Aug 1808 Elizabeth 29 Dec 1811 John 19 > Oct 1817 Hester 7 Jan 1821 Sarah 24 Aug 1823 William 22 Jul 1827 > So it looks as if your mystery William and Robert are in the > previous generation. > I have a similar problem with Peter and his siblings, including my > 3GGF, James, bp 15 Jun 1788, George b abt 1775 and Charlotte b abt > 1795. > In fact, I'd constructed this family of four siblings and had to > name their father 'X' until I found out who he was. > > Pat Hase was enormously helpful about this and discovered that a > James, s/o James and Mary BEACHAM, was bp at Chew Magna and that a > James BEACHAM m a Sarah TAYLOR at Bristol St James 21 Nov 1814, > the only candidates so far for my 4GGP. > > Whether the four siblings are the only children James and Mary had, > I don't know, but I have to say it looks as though there is a > William- and Robert-shaped space in that line-up. > If this looks at all helpful, I'll let you know anything else I > have on the family. > > Kind regards > Joy > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message

Dear Listers, With respect to the debate about John Beacham and the children of Peter and Hester. For many. many years my brick wall has been William Beecham/Beacham, b about 1791, who suddenly appears in Compton Martin getting married to an Elizabeth WYATT in 1821. At the same time, almost, suddenly in Compton Martin there appears a Robert Beacham/Beecham/Beauchamp, born about 1789, who also marries in the Parish Church a Charlotte GAIT in 1812. Where did they come from? Are they related? It would likely but I have no proof. Unfortunately, the Compton Martin Parish records are neglected in the prior period. They both claim to be “of the parish” when marrying, but, of course, they may not have been born there. In past research Peter and Hester look good candidates to me for a reason I cannot put a finger on as I write but I have no proof that they were the parents of either. Any input in this Beecham line would be of tremendous interest to me. David (Beecham) PA-USA, where it is cold but no snow, yet.

-----Original Message----- >> Hi Liz >> Yes I am still around..I don't post much but do always have a watching >> brief. A while ago I found a site (can't remember which one) that had some >> RN wills but found nothing. However it was a limited number and some time >> ago, if anyone has any ideas I would, as always, be grateful. >> >> Regards >> >> Meryl >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Liz >> Sent: 09 January 2011 17:58 >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [B&D] New Year and brickwalls >> >> Hi Meryl >> >> Good to see you around. Had a thought, I always thought that, even in > those >> days, men in the Royal Navy were expected to automatically write a Will > when >> they joined especially if they were going to war! Anyone have any idea >> about this? >> >> Liz >> www.btinternet.com/~e.newbery >> OPC for Street, Somerset >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Meryl Phillips" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 5:42 PM >> Subject: Re: [B&D] New Year and brickwalls >> >> >>> None really Charani, but still chipping away at the same large lump of >>> granite (that is the Coombs line) with the same small flint chisel. >>> >>> I will however keep chipping away and hope that one day, maybe this year, > >>> I >>> will find my Seth. >>> >>> I too wish all fellow chiselers good fortune in 2011 for their quests >>> >>> Meryl >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Charani >>> Sent: 07 January 2011 00:09 >>> To: B+D List >>> Subject: [B&D] New Year and brickwalls >>> >>> Slightly belatedly, all the very best for a happy, healthy and >>> brickwall busting new year to everyone. >>> >>> Lee Partridge posted a couple of years ago (probably longer) that the >>> answers are out there and she was quite right. It's just of how far >>> out there! >>> >>> Last year a 40-year old brickwall was finally broken down on one of my >>> lines by a retired cousin who took the time to > > -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/

Hi frederick whiting mariner 1838 Bristol . I have no more information than that at the moment Lesley Whiting

Yes Edna; quite right. very sad indeed, considering the long history of J.S. Fry, and its association with Bristol. At least there is continuing reference to the famous company, with the brand still available on Turkish Delight, and Chocolate Cream bars. Peter On 1/15/11, liverpud <[email protected]> wrote: > How sad! > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/bristol/hi/ > > Edna - sunny Ottawa > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Lesley wrote: > Hi I,am looking for a Frederick Whiting b1818 Bristol Married in 1838 to > a Sarah Crisp on the Cert He was a Mariner Can someone please direct > me to were to look for Mariners in 1841 he is out of the Mariners > , please Do you know if he was in the Royal Navy, on a merchant ship or a fisherman? You may find something about him in the National Archives. Have your tried the Mariners list? -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/

Hi I,am looking for a Frederick Whiting b1818 Bristol Married in 1838 to a Sarah Crisp on the Cert He was a Mariner Can someone please direct me to were to look for Mariners in 1841 he is out of the Mariners , please Thanks Lesley Whiting

Mike in Droitwich wrote: > I have one free email addresses you can get that I use just for Rootsweb > mailing lists and no other purpose. > > This is very useful as it keeps all mailing list postings separate from > my personal email and facebook etc. That works well if using webview but not if using an email client such as Outlook Express, Thunderbird, etc, where all the addresses tend to be in a single place even if divided into different categories. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/

Thank you so much for this, Pat. It's a great help with my construction of this family. Kind regards Joy > On familysearch there is this entry: > > Groom's Name: John Beacham > Bride's Name: Grace Gregory > Marriage Date: 29 Aug 1841 Marriage Place: Bedminster, Somerset, England > Groom's Father's Name: Peter Beacham > Bride's Father's Name: Bryant Gregory

Joy, I have traced many “Live Ones”in the past. Its fairly simple really. Just do a google for the local newspapers in the area you are looking for. In Bristol I found a lady who was not only related to me,but gave me some lovely old photographs of my Great,Great,Grandparents Eli YEOMAN,[1827-1887]and his wife Louisa,nee COOKE.[1828-1898] These Photographs now sit proudly on the wall in my house. It was so long ago I cannot remember the name of the Newspaper that printed the story? Here in South Wales we have “The South Wales Echo”which regularly prints messages from members of the Public in its “Viewpoints”Column,for people looking for Living Relations. HTH; Cheers Graham.

Could sks look up the entry for John WOOD in Uxbridge on the 1851 England Census; Reference: HO107 Piece 1697 Folio: 267 Page: 43 Sch: 182, and help me with the two words after his occupation as a ‘Chelsea Pensioner’ please. Also the address appears to me to be ‘Bill Ford’ does anyone agree with me? Many thanks Tricia

Have replied off list, Cathy