Ann Futch, Jackie and Others Ann, sometime in the next month or so I will be going up to the DC area and will try and pick up on the Penn. Brisbin stuff. Since I am very much a novice at this I look forward on comments from all of you to help make sure that I do a good job documenting and cross referencing the information that I gather. No, I haven't been in touch with any Canadian Brisbins as of yet. I know that one of them is running a Engineering Consulting firm doing much the same kind of work that I used to do. Do you have e-mail addresses, or are they on the Brisbin list? Both the names of James and Elizabeth along with the death date sound right. Since James was in and out of the service, is it possible that he was a Col. at one time? Captain does not sound right for what I was reading though it may have been. Rank in the Revolutionary Army was passed out on the number of men you were able to muster together. One time he might have put together enough men to receive a higher rank. Jackie, you know that the James Brisbin that settled in the New York area had two wives. I don't have the name of the first wife, but two sons were born to this marriage. First was William b. about 1732. The second was Samuel b. about 1734. The rest of his children by Margaret Carruth are listed in the Mormon records NYSLcp.401 All of James' children were born in the UK but most start showing up tin the New York records in the 1750's. By this time William would have been past 18 and out of the house. Have you or anyone been able to track these two? Are they the source of some of the Penn. Brisbins? I picked these two from a different source in the Salt Lake records but didn't document it. I know William and Samuel are not usually listed with the James Brisbin/Margaret Carruth listings and seemed to get overlooked at times. I would appreciate any information that anyone has on the father of Robert Brisbin b. Aug. 1809 in Clinton N. Y. The information that I have seems to indicate the line may run from the above James and Margaret through one of their 4 sons (perhaps Robert b. 1749) to a son and then to the Robert I have being born in 1809. My research and records fail to list any information on children or parents from the 1740's to the 1800's. These folks would be appearing in the New York area around Saratoga Springs, Warren and Essex Counties. Many thanks for any leads. Right now I am at a dead end mainly because I haven't learned how to do this type of research yet. Thanks again George