Hi Anne and All, I always thought that Muriel had a letter from Mrs. Zeigler herself, but now I sure wonder. Muriel told me once not too long ago that she is really sorry she didn't keep better track of sources. She and her sister traveled from California to Pennsylvania, Kentucky, and Illinois searching for our John Brisbin and his relatives. Making several trips in fact. They had the BEST time. But, they were so excited by the 'thrill of the hunt' that they just didn't think of the future. Carlene and I spent a year looking for some of the same sources she found because she didn't write down where they were. I have pages of photocopied material with no source given, mostly Egle's Notes & Queries articles and things she copied in the Centre County Library. She told me that she found deeds in Kentucky by our John's brother William. She hasn't sent copies to me, if she made them. And, I have no idea where they are. Frustrating, but I guess there is a good lesson to be learned here. I make mistakes too, but I sure give it a try! Yesterday, John Brisbin in Florida called me. He is a great-grandson of James Sanks Brisbin and I understand he has talked to about everyone. I encouraged him to get a computer! Lyn, thanks for giving him my address. He will be sending me copies of his information. Sure sounds like a nice man, well, I suppose with the name John Brisbin he couldn't go wrong! Jackie