Found this on USGen Web. Does anyone know where this cemetery is? USGENWEB search (PA & Brisbin) cemet001.txt Puckety United Presbyterian Church (no location given) Brisbin, Arthur - d. Nov 18, 1846 aged 61y. UsgenWeb - centcem.txt Centre Hill Presbyterian Church - Potter Township, Centre Co., PA - Tombstone Inscriptions Source: Egles Notes and Queries Annual Volume 1898 Brisbin, John d. 1845, aged 84 y. Brisbin, Mary, w. of John, d. 1834, aged 69 y. Brisbin, Brice, b. 1791; d. 1859 Brisbin, John, Jr., (actually the III) d. 1811, aged 63 y Jackie, I am getting your notes twice but my delete key works well. Mine are probably getting to you twice too. Guess the best way to solve this is put the Brisbin list in our address book and send messages to that address. Don't know about your William but it seems every list either leaves one out or adds one we haven't seen. Capt. John would have been 27 when he m. Elinor Adcock. If the birthdate is correct in Egles Rutherfords and Margaret Brisban was b. 1753 and is a dau. of Capt. John, maybe he had another wife. Anne Futch

Hi Anne and Everyone, Anne, are you getting this twice? When I cilck reply to all, both your address and the group's comes up on top. Just delete one, OK? I can't see how to get it to reply to the goup only, I can delete your address, but the group address does not move into the top possission and then the window comes up telling me that I haven't included an address. #@*&! machines! Love 'um! Anyway, here is a copy of somthing that Carlen Cohn found on a little slip of paper stuck into a book in the Pennsylvania Historical Society in Philadelphia. It is certainly nothing official, but worth taking a look at. Jackie This is a hand written family 'tree' outline showing two Brisbin brothers and their families: Wm. Brisbin b no date given; d no date given; m Elizabeth Watson 13 Mar 1764 St. James Church Lancaster. Capt. John Brisbin m1) blank; m2) Isabella (Simmons) McNabb Proved 1747; m3) Mary (blank) Wood. The following children were listed for Capt. John: Arthur; James; Isabella m Robert Patterson; Elizabeth m John B. Rutherford; John b 1760; (and a note here above the next two, '3 wife') Samuel b 1784, d 1852 at Pittsburgh, m 1814; and Julia. Below Samuel were children: John; Jacob M.; Mary; William; George M; Anna Elizabeth; Sevris; Juliana; and Samuel R. Carlene sent a copy of this to Muriel Morrison to see what she thought of it. Muriel clarified the name Sevris as Louis. Muriel also said that she was pleased to see Arthur on this chart, he went to Cumberland Co. and finally Westmoreland. I think it is also nice to see James accounted for. The big question is; Where is MY William?

Hi George & Everyone, About a year ago I had a letter from Ms. Skip Churchill, a professional genealogist. She was working for a client on some Ohio Brisbins. I never did hear what she actually found out. But if you are interested I'll include her address below. Jackie This is a very rough outline of the chart she sent me: William Omer Brisben, Jr. (this may be her client) b 10 Nov 1944 in Hamilton Co., OH ^ William Omer Brisben, Sr. b 1905 d 1966 in Hamilton Co., OH ^ Omer Mathew Brisben b 10 Nov 1879 in Okeana, Morgan twp, Butler Co., OH d 21 Dec 1970 Butler Co., OH ^ William Author Brisben b 25 Jun 1851 at New Haven, Crosby twp, Hamilton Co., OH d 20 Apr 1918 at Hamilton, Butler Co., OH ^ Robert Brisbin (Jr?) b ca 1825 in Indiana m 1) Margaret A. Howard abt 1845 m 2) Kate Weible ? ca 1869 d aft Jun 1870, where? ^ William?/James?/John?/Robert Brisben ?????? b ca 1775 in PA or British Isles? m ca 1805 Phoebe Montgomery? d Feb 1832-1840, possibly Whitewater twp, Franklin Co., IN ? Ms. Skip Churchill 98 Applewood Drive Fairfield, OH 45014-5298 (513) 874-5181 The names Arthur and Robert rang a bell so I sent her the following (and a lot of addresses of Brisbin genealogists): 1 Arthur Brisbin b: Bef. 1754 d: Aft. 1790 Cumberland Co., PA m) Unknown 2 Girl Brisbin 2 Child Brisbin 2 Robert Brisbin b: Bef. 1774 2 Jane Brisbin b: Bef. 1782 2 Child Brisbin b: Bef. 1790 2 James Brisbin b: Bef. 1790 2 Son Brisbin b: Bef. 1790 2 Boy Brisbin b: Bef. 1790 Muriel Brisbin Morrison says this Arthur Brisbin lived in Lancaster Co., during the Revolution. She found his children, Robert, James, and Jane were attending Paxtang-Derry Presbyterian School in 1782. Census info from Anne Futch: 1790 Arthur Brisban, Cumberland Co. PA: 2 males +16; 3 males -16; and 5 females.

Hi Sarah and Everybody, I think I sent this to you Sarah, a long time ago, did I? It isn't your ancestor, but wonder if there is any connection here? This James Brisbin was the son of Samuel Brisbin and Mary Ann Flack. Samuel was the son of John Brisbin, Jr. who was the son of Capt. John. These Brisbins are VERY confusing. Dwight Miller wrote a book about the BARR-BRISBIN families and made many mistakes, including the fact that he traced his descent from the wrong Samuel Brisbin. Charles Barr also wrote a book recently and has continued the incorrect descent. I don't have the complete citations for these books at my fingertips right now, but can find them if anyone wants them. I looked at these books on a visit to the Centre County Historical Society a couple of years ago. (Anne, correct me if I've messed up on this one!) Jackie 1 James Brisbin b: 08 Jan 1834 PA d: 02 Aug 1901 Fairfield Co., OH . +Elizabeth Barr b: 04 Oct 1838 Fairfield Co., OH m: 03 Feb 1857 Fairfield Co., OH d: 05 Mar 1914 Fairfield Co., OH 2 Baby Brisbin b: 16 Nov 1857 Fairfield Co., OH d: 16 Nov 1857 Fairfield Co., OH 2 Baby Brisbin b: 12 Aug 1858 Fairfield Co., OH d: Fairfield Co., OH 2 Mary Ann Brisbin b: 15 Nov 1859 Fairfield Co., OH d: 14 Nov 1887 2 Baby Brisbin b: 15 Feb 1862 Fairfield Co., OH 2 Emma M. Brisbin b: 24 Aug 1863 Fairfield Co., OH d: Unknown ....+Frank Yost b: of Thornville, OH m: 01 Feb 1883 d: Unknown 2 Baby Brisbin b: 01 Jul 1869 Fairfield Co., OH 2 Alice Jane Brisbin b: 12 Dec 1875 Fairfield Co., OH d: 18 Dec 1965 ....+Francis Fred Pierce Miller b: of Rushville, OH m: 07 Apr 1894 d: 01 Dec 1952 buried in Rushville, OH

Jackie, I have spoken to Skip several times. She still stump as far as I know. We thought maybe Robert(Jr.?) Brisbin is a brother to my Mary Ann Brisbin Hayhurst and other Brisbins in the area. But no proof of relationship. It just they were all in the same area and same time. Sara

Jackie, Thank you for the info. The people I have in this area(Hamilton Co. Ohio) were getting married at 1835-1841 time period. Give me some time--I have to dig up some papers I have on other Brisbins family in this area. Maybe in those papers someone would recognize the names. Sara

George, Hamilton County Ohio is located Southwest corner of state of Ohio. It borders are State of Indiana, Ohio River, Butler County, Ohio and Clinton Co. Ohio. There are several Brisbins in the area but they do not know anymore more than I do. Thank you for your help. Sara

This from "Pennsylvania Genealogies - Rutherford of Paxton" by William Egle. 1. Samuel Rutherford b. 16 Jul 1769, m. Elizabeth Brisban, b. 29 Sep 1770, (daughter of John Brisban Capt. and Isabella Simmons) d. 24 Apr 1843. Samuel died 26 Nov 1833. Children: 2. i Margret Park Rutherford b. 6 Apr 1795, , ,Lancaster,PA, m. John R. Collier, b. of Ohio. John: They had issue. 3. ii Isabel Simmons Rutherford b. 18 Aug 1797, , ,Lancaster,PA, d. 10 Mar 1852. 4. iii Jean Hutchinson Rutherford b. 13 Sep 1799, , ,Lancaster,PA, m. Robert Foster. Jean died 18 Aug 1851, buried: Stephenson Co. Illinois. Robert: They had issue. 5. iv Elizabeth Rutherford b. 30 Oct 1801, , ,Lancaster,PA, m. John P. Rutherford. John: They had issue. 6. v Martha Brisban Rutherford b. 16 Jan 1804, m. Hugh Wilson. Martha died 12 Oct 2884, buried: Springfield, Ohio. Hugh: They had issue. 7. vi John Brisban Rutherford b. 28 Nov 1805, m. Keziah Parke. 8. vii Marcy (Mary - Ann) Rutherford b. 14 Jun 1810, , ,Lancaster,PA, m. Samuel S. Rutherford. Marcy died 14 Dec 1884. Anne Futch ---------- > From: Jacqueline Marshall <jmarshal@jlc.net> > To: afutch@prodigy.net > Cc: BRISBIN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Elinor Adcock Brisbin > Date: Tuesday, February 17, 1998 7:59 PM > > Hi Anne and everyone, > Thank you, Anne for sending along the Rutherford information. In answer > to your question about Elinor Adcock Brisbin I haven't really found > anything new, but have tracked down the source. Just a week ago I found > an extracted marriage record in the International Genealogical Index > (IGI) at the Family History Center of the Mormon Church. I plan to order > the film with this record and have a good look at it. Perhaps there are > other Adcock entries that will give us a clue to her family. Here is > what is in the extracted record. (An extracted record is one that > someone has entered into the IGI copied directly from the primary > source.) > > 22 Jun 1756: Marriage of John BRISBANE to Elianor ADCOCK. Saint Luke's > Protestant Episcopal Parish, Church Hill, Queen Annes County, Maryland. > > The film to order for this record is #0013890, items 1 & 2; St. Lukes > Parish Register, Queen Annes County, MD, 1722-1847. > > Good to hear from some of you! Sarah, I'll give your problem some > thought. Have you checked the Family History Center databases? I can do > that for you if you'd like. Lyn, I got both your messages, so the list > is working! Yvonne, is there a command to send for a list of people who > are subscribed????? Thanks! > Jackie > > > ==== BRISBIN Mailing List ==== > List problems? First, read the Welcome Message that you received > when you subscribed. Feel free to contact Yvonne James-Henderson, > list administrator with questions concerning this list! > mailto:hen1@idt.net >

Sara, I'm George Brisbin and my father and grandfather are from the Woods County, Jerry City area of Ohio. Is this anywhere near Hamilton County? I did not grow up there and so I don't know If anything I have can be of a help. Neither Mary Ann or Hayhurst show up in any thing that I have. But I am still trying to dig out the father of Robert Brisbin who married Phebe (Phoebe) Call June 21, 1829 in Clinton New York. Robert and Phoebe moved into the Huron County area of Ohio between 1833 and 1835 and then into the Wood County area about 1853. They had 12 children, I will list them and spouse if I have it. Child Date Born Married Date Died Marcia June 1830 Essex Co NY John Kittle Sept 1850 Aug 1869 William H. 1832 " 1832 James H.* May 1833 " Rebecca Gingery Oct 1858 Levi B (Corp) April 1835 Huron Co. Ohio Jan 1863 Elizabeth O Aug 1837 " John Ford Dec 1855 1889 Marion F. (Corp) Mar 1839 " Charlotte Cornell Dec 1859 Ellen P May 1841 " Jesse Dewese Dec 1860 Mar 1900 Eugene (Sgt) Feb 1843 Hunts Corners Ohio Lovina Huntsecker Aug 1865 Mar 1905 Albert Feb 1845 " Susan Olive Jones Mar 1880 Charles May 1848 " William L Jan 1850 " Phebe Ann Mar 1853 Weston, Wood Co, Ohio Charles Conklin Oct 1874 * James H. is my great grandfather The above is from the Call Family Records A5A12 Mormon Records Salt Lake City > Still stuck in Hamilton Co. Ohio--My G.G. grandparents are Mary Ann BRISBIN > and John HAYHURST. They were married Feb. 14, 1841 in Hamilton Co. Ohio. They > had 11 children. No dates on Mary Ann!! > Found these marriage records in Hamilton Co. Ohio > John Z. BRISBIN m. Eliza RISK July 14, 1843 > Sally BRISBUN m. Joseph WILLIAMS Nov. 9 1836 > Arthur BRISBON m. Sarah GOSHORN Mar. 8, 1835 > Unable to connect above names to my Mary Ann(so far). > Does anyone have a clue to who these people are? > Thanks for any help. > Sara > > ==== BRISBIN Mailing List ==== > Visit the Brisbin Family List Home Page! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~daisy/brisbin.htm

Hi Jackie and others on the list. My Grandfather Charles Herbert Brisbin of Woods County Ohio tells essentially the same story. He was said to have had a Genealogy professional research the family. I have found no trace among his papers to this person's report. All I know is what I remember from the things he told about the family. What I am about to say is all UNCONFIRMED and based on childhood memories. During the revolution there was a group of Brisbins living in the Wyoming valley area of New York. (This may now or have been at that time actually Pennsylvania) A British Col. by the name of Brisbin asked (or was sent) into this area to try and put down the rebellion. He made friends with a group of indians and attacked the valley area where the Brisbins and other families lived. The settlers were overcome and driven into a nearby swamp area. Here the indians and British kept them till most starved. The swamp area was called "Shades of Death Swamp" in recognition of what happened there. Since this story in various forms keeps showing back up, I think that a source of records for the British Col. may be in the British War records. My sister did some research in England a number of years ago on a very different subject but noted that the War records seemed very complete and in tact. Dose anyone know how to get at them, other than going there? Regards George Jacqueline Marshall wrote: > Hi Everyone, > I'm still thinking about Brisbin problems. Has anyone found any more > about the loyalist brother of Capt. John and Capt. William Brisbin? I'll > paste my notes below. > Jackie > > Loyalist BROTHER BRISBIN: > George Mytinger Brisbin told a story of the loyalist brother of Capt. > John Brisbin. He said that this brother held a commision in the English > army and was with Gen. Howe at New York. He was said to be tyrinical and > for this reason the American brothers changed the spelling of their name > from Brisbane to Brisbin. Story printed in 'Eagle's Notes & Queries' > Volume I, pgs 93-94. George M. did not name the brother. > Dwight Miller's book on several families including BARR-BRISBIN gave > a name to this brother: Hugh. He says that Capt. John emigrated to > America abt 1754 with brothers William and Hugh and sister Janette. He > also gives a name for Hugh's wife, S. Fetz. Mr. Miller made many errors > in his book and I think we should keep that in mind. > Anne Futch sent information she received from Linda Brisbane of > Churchville, PA. In the Pennsylvania Vital Records, Vol I, there is a > Hugh Brisben on page 296, marriage May 1746. In PA from 1742-28 Marriage > Licenses, only the male name was recorded. I have also found this > marriage on Family Tree Maker CD #172,'Pennsylvania Vital Records, > 1700's-1800's'. This is a list of marriage licenses issued by Gov. James > Hamilton and only the names of the grooms are listed. They are listed in > two collumns, and across from Hugh Brisben is Sebastian Felty, another > groom of that year and month. Here is where Miller got the 'bride's' > name! > At the Genealogical society of PA, Carlene viewed the original > handwritten license "Hugh Brisbin May 1746" located in the 'Warren S. > and Josephine I. Ely, Memorial Collection'. > There is no conclusive proof that Hugh Brisbin was the brother of > John & William. > > ==== BRISBIN Mailing List ==== > List problems? First, read the Welcome Message that you received > when you subscribed. Feel free to contact Yvonne James-Henderson, > list administrator with questions concerning this list! > mailto:hen1@idt.net

Hi Everyone, I'm still thinking about Brisbin problems. Has anyone found any more about the loyalist brother of Capt. John and Capt. William Brisbin? I'll paste my notes below. Jackie Loyalist BROTHER BRISBIN: George Mytinger Brisbin told a story of the loyalist brother of Capt. John Brisbin. He said that this brother held a commision in the English army and was with Gen. Howe at New York. He was said to be tyrinical and for this reason the American brothers changed the spelling of their name from Brisbane to Brisbin. Story printed in 'Eagle's Notes & Queries' Volume I, pgs 93-94. George M. did not name the brother. Dwight Miller's book on several families including BARR-BRISBIN gave a name to this brother: Hugh. He says that Capt. John emigrated to America abt 1754 with brothers William and Hugh and sister Janette. He also gives a name for Hugh's wife, S. Fetz. Mr. Miller made many errors in his book and I think we should keep that in mind. Anne Futch sent information she received from Linda Brisbane of Churchville, PA. In the Pennsylvania Vital Records, Vol I, there is a Hugh Brisben on page 296, marriage May 1746. In PA from 1742-28 Marriage Licenses, only the male name was recorded. I have also found this marriage on Family Tree Maker CD #172,'Pennsylvania Vital Records, 1700's-1800's'. This is a list of marriage licenses issued by Gov. James Hamilton and only the names of the grooms are listed. They are listed in two collumns, and across from Hugh Brisben is Sebastian Felty, another groom of that year and month. Here is where Miller got the 'bride's' name! At the Genealogical society of PA, Carlene viewed the original handwritten license "Hugh Brisbin May 1746" located in the 'Warren S. and Josephine I. Ely, Memorial Collection'. There is no conclusive proof that Hugh Brisbin was the brother of John & William.

Hi Anne and everyone, Thank you, Anne for sending along the Rutherford information. In answer to your question about Elinor Adcock Brisbin I haven't really found anything new, but have tracked down the source. Just a week ago I found an extracted marriage record in the International Genealogical Index (IGI) at the Family History Center of the Mormon Church. I plan to order the film with this record and have a good look at it. Perhaps there are other Adcock entries that will give us a clue to her family. Here is what is in the extracted record. (An extracted record is one that someone has entered into the IGI copied directly from the primary source.) 22 Jun 1756: Marriage of John BRISBANE to Elianor ADCOCK. Saint Luke's Protestant Episcopal Parish, Church Hill, Queen Annes County, Maryland. The film to order for this record is #0013890, items 1 & 2; St. Lukes Parish Register, Queen Annes County, MD, 1722-1847. Good to hear from some of you! Sarah, I'll give your problem some thought. Have you checked the Family History Center databases? I can do that for you if you'd like. Lyn, I got both your messages, so the list is working! Yvonne, is there a command to send for a list of people who are subscribed????? Thanks! Jackie

Hi Jackie and all. I wondered why we weren't seeing any replies to the Brisbin list. Thanks for figuring it out. I was at the Daytona library last week and found a book "Pennsylvannia Genealogies by William Egle. It has the Rutherford family in it. Thomas Rutherford who m. Jean Mordah was the immigrant. Egle lists Thomas' son James Rutherford b 27 Aug 1747; d 6 Mar 1809; m Margaret Brisban b 1753; d Mar 1825; they had no issue and are both interred in Paxtang church burial ground (Harrisburg). The above James was the brother of John Rutherford b 16 Feb 1737 m Margaret Parke. John & Margaret were the parents of Samuel Rutherford b 16 Jul 1769; d 26 Nov 1833; m. Elizabeth Brisban, b. 29 Sep 1770; d. 24 Apr 1843; dau of Capt. John Brisban. The book lists the children of Samuel and Elizabeth which I will send later. Copy sent to me some time ago from Paxton Presbyterian Church, Harrisburg, where Capt. John is buried. It is a one page Bio. of Capt. John and does not give a source. Children of Capt. John Brisbane By his first wife: Mrs. Isabella Simmons McNabb: John Brisbane Agnes Brisbane Rutherford m. Samuel Rutherford Elizabeth Brisbane By his second wife, Mary _________; George Brisbane Jacob Brisbane John Brisbane Elizabeth Brisbane Marriages - By Rev. John Elder 1772, 2 Jan - Margaret Brisban and James Rutherford Could this Margaret be another dau of Capt. John? Does anyone have access to the Rutherford wills? Has anyone found anything more on Elinor Adcock. Isn't this fun. :) Anne Futch ---------- > From: Jacqueline Marshall <jmarshal@jlc.net> > To: BRISBIN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Brisbin List > Date: Monday, February 16, 1998 7:01 AM > > Hi EVERYBODY, > I'm running a little experiment here. Just realized that now I need to > click the 'reply to all' button to get a message out to everyone and not > just the person I'm answering. > Does anyone have the original instructions about this list? I seem to > have misplaced them and want to write in with a command. It would be > interesing to see a list of subscribers. Anne, did you try it yet? I > just got a message from Bob Cobb and he is wondering where we all are > too. > How about doing a little check-in? Send a message, be sure to click > 'reply to all'. Tell us if you are receiving the list, what you are up > to in your research, and we will see how everyone is doing. > George you may get this twice. I used your last message to practice on, > and both your address & the group address came up when I clicked 'reply > to all'. When I just clicked 'reply' only your address came up. So, no > one knows about your great find! > I just found the 'old' welcome letter with instructions, but that was > when we were with MAISER. I know Yvonne, our list Mom, sent us another > letter. Does anyone have it? Thanks! I'll be looking forward to hearing > from everyone! > Jackie > > > ==== BRISBIN Mailing List ==== > List problems? First, read the Welcome Message that you received > when you subscribed. Feel free to contact Yvonne James-Henderson, > list administrator with questions concerning this list! > mailto:hen1@idt.net >

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Jackie, this is a second message re the "List" - Just wanted you to know it was received. Lyn Dunham

Gotcha' - but I'm no help. Undoubtedly you will get the info AND when you do please pass it on. Lyn Dunham

Still stuck in Hamilton Co. Ohio--My G.G. grandparents are Mary Ann BRISBIN and John HAYHURST. They were married Feb. 14, 1841 in Hamilton Co. Ohio. They had 11 children. No dates on Mary Ann!! Found these marriage records in Hamilton Co. Ohio John Z. BRISBIN m. Eliza RISK July 14, 1843 Sally BRISBUN m. Joseph WILLIAMS Nov. 9 1836 Arthur BRISBON m. Sarah GOSHORN Mar. 8, 1835 Unable to connect above names to my Mary Ann(so far). Does anyone have a clue to who these people are? Thanks for any help. Sara

Hi EVERYBODY, I'm running a little experiment here. Just realized that now I need to click the 'reply to all' button to get a message out to everyone and not just the person I'm answering. Does anyone have the original instructions about this list? I seem to have misplaced them and want to write in with a command. It would be interesing to see a list of subscribers. Anne, did you try it yet? I just got a message from Bob Cobb and he is wondering where we all are too. How about doing a little check-in? Send a message, be sure to click 'reply to all'. Tell us if you are receiving the list, what you are up to in your research, and we will see how everyone is doing. George you may get this twice. I used your last message to practice on, and both your address & the group address came up when I clicked 'reply to all'. When I just clicked 'reply' only your address came up. So, no one knows about your great find! I just found the 'old' welcome letter with instructions, but that was when we were with MAISER. I know Yvonne, our list Mom, sent us another letter. Does anyone have it? Thanks! I'll be looking forward to hearing from everyone! Jackie

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Thank You Jackie and others. I realize that my request for help in defining a great-grandfather was incomplete and confusing. My grandfather just talked about the George Mittinger Brisbin of Penn. because he thought it was neat to have a town named after some distant relative. The Brisbin that I am looking for would have been an Ohio Brisbin living near Jerry City (Wood County?) and marrying a Rebecca Gingery in the 1860's. There are five known children of this marriage, none of which I have birth years on except for Charles. They are Manford, Etta (married a Stage), Emma (married a Brandon), Phoebe (married a Phillips) and Charles Herbert (1871-1965 and married a Minnie Melvina Hill). The birth year for these should between 1860-1875). All spouses except for Manford should be of the Jerry City Ohio area. Manford should tie to latter generations of Brisbin's in Kansas. It is possible that the family ties into an Albert Brisbin (6/2/1845 - 10/30/1909) He was born in Huron Co. Ohio and lived in the Bowling Green, Wood Co. Ohio area. Albert was the son of Robert and Ph(o?)ebe (Call) Brisbin and married Susan Olive Jones. Their surviving children were Leda Stella, Jenny Zola and Edna Blanche Brisbin. A son dide at birth. Also before I go too far with this, What is the best genology software to use? I have Family Tree Maker (tm) but have not input a lot of data into it. Is it OK as a electronic file transfer system or is there a better system to use? I would like to share what I have when I get further along, without having to retype everything. Those of you interested in James S Brisbin of the Civil and Indian Wars period will find a write up on one of the Civil War engagements at http://www.coax.net/people/wf/5thuscc.htm Thanks George Jacqueline Marshall wrote: > Hi George & other Brisbin researchers, > My, but this list has been sleepy! Thanks for the wake up George. We > just haven't been working on Brisbins at all! > I don't have either a George Herbert Brisbin or a Charles Herbert > Brisbin in my database. George Mytinger Brisbin was the son of Samuel > Brisbin & Catherine Mytinger. I have some notes on these families too. > If you'd like to have them let me know. I have a Charles H. who died > while working in Mexico. Ever heard any story like that? He was the son > of Judge Samuel below. Do any of those names look familiar? > I sure wish my program could do a surname search by location for me. I > know there were a lot of Brisbins in Ohio because I have seen them in > the census, but not copied them all. After PA mine were in KY and IL, > then on to Oregon. > Keep in touch, I have hundreds of Brisbins in my computer, and notes on > many of them. I'm sure we will link your's in one of these days. Have > you tried the Family History Center yet? There are Brisbins on their > databases too. > Best of luck, Jackie > > 1 George Mytinger Brisbin b: 29 Jun 1826 Allegheny Co, PA d: 1908 bur > Alexandria, PA > .+Hannah Elizabeth Houtz b: 24 Aug 1830 Alexandria, Huntington, PA m: 20 > Aug 1860 d: 1910 bur Alexandria, PA > ...2 George Houtz Brisbin b: 17 Sep 1861 d: 03 Mar 1872 > ...2 Susan Bucher Brisbin b: 17 Dec 1864 d: 1954 Alexandria, > Huntington, PA > ......+Roberts Lowrie b: 1861 d: 1948 Alexandria, Huntington, PA > ...2 Mary Brisbin b: 01 Jul 1873 d: Infant > > > 1 Samuel J. Brisbin, Judge b: 24 Oct 1825 Boalsburg, Centre, PA d: 17 > May 1904 Lewistown, Mifflin, PA > .+Catherine Blymyer b: 1832 of Lewistown, Mifflin, PA m: 28 Dec 1850 > Lewistown, Mifflin, PA d: 06 Oct 1896 Lewistown, Mifflin, PA > ...2 Charles H. Brisbin d: Aft. 1904 of Mexico City, Mexico > ...2 Helen B. Brisbin > ...2 Mary Brisbin d: 1864 Lewistown, Mifflin Co., PA > ...2 S. J. Brisbin d: 1865 Lewistown, Mifflin Co., PA > ...2 Anna L. Brisbin b: 15 Feb 1858 Lewistown, Mifflin, PA d: 13 May > 1938 Lewistown, Mifflin, PA > ....... +George Russell b: 29 Jan 1858 m: 1880 d: 17 Apr 1914 > Lewistown, Mifflin, PA > ...2 Abraham B. Brisbin b: 1860 Lewistown, Mifflin Co., PA d: 1921 > 1904 of Colorado Springs, CO; bur. Mifflin Co., PA > ...2 William E. Brisbin b: 1867 Lewistown, Mifflin Co., PA d: 1925