A week or so ago Yvonne James Henderson sent a list of when epidemics occured. I've lost that list. Could someone please resend it? Thanks, Anne

Does anyone know who Brisbane, Australia was named after? Family lore says it was a 4Great-uncle, though I have my doubts. thanks, Laurie velett@pioneerplanet.infi.net

Jackie - Thanks for all the census records. History of the War, Chapter II Robert Reid Howison May 1862 Page 277 Virginia loved the Union, which had been constructed under her fostering care - to which she had given seven presidents, and under which the country had grown great and prosperous. She desired, if possible , to preserve it, but her determination was steadfastly fixed, to require from the North a guaranty of Southern rights and abstinence from hostile acts against slavery. Her earnest efforts to save the Union, were misunderstood by many Northern people. On the 15th of November, a Pennsylvanian, calling himself JAMES S. BRISBIN, wrote a letter to Governor Letcher, of Virginia, stating that the movements of South Carolina for secession, were to some a matter of amusement - to others of alarm - that disunion should not be tolerated - that twenty-eight millions of freemen in the North would crush it - that if worst came, brother must march against brother, and concluded by saying, that two hundred Virginians had tendered "him their command", and he was ready to give his life to maintain the Union. To this effusion, Governor Letcher replied in a tone of stern rebuke, remarking upon the excited state of the public mind, and the necessity for measures of conciliation to restore, if possible, confidence and good feeling between the two sections; censuring the denunciatory spirit of Brisbin's letter, which as far as it could have any influence, would only add fuel to flame, reminding him that his own State Of Pennsylvania, was implicated in the crime of breaking the Constitution, by laws to resist the return of fugitive slaves, and informing him, that he was certainly in error, supposing that two Hundred "Virginians" had called him to their command, as the Governor could not believe that native citizens of the State, would ever invite a Pennsylvanian to command them, even should they be willing "to aid in the ungracious work of reducing a Southern sister State to the abject condition of a conquered province of the Federal government. (b) This letter from her Governor, probably represented the feelings of a majority of the people of Virginia at that time. They knew they had been deeply wronged by the North - they were resolved that redress should be obtained and their rights secured by guaranties adequate to the end, they unalterably opposed to coercion of Any Southern State, by the Federal government, but they earnestly desired to exhaust every honorable means to preserve the Union. Their error was in cherishing any longer the idle hope of finding honor and good faith among a people, a large majority of whom were given up to the dominion of avarice and fanaticism. This error was grave, and cost Virginia dearly: it induced her to delay taking possession of the strongholds on her soil, arming her peiople and uniting at once with her more Southern sisters. (b) Letters in Whig, November 23d Anne

1850 US Census Index, Selected Counties, Family Tree Maker CD #317, by Broderbund Software. state & name county town page CALIFORNIA Joseph Brisbon El Dorado Keleseys Vicinity 14 CONNECTCUT Maria Brisbane Litchfield Litchfield 259 ILLINOIS David B. Brisane Schuyler Brooklyn 353 Ezra Brisbin Coles Charleston 13 Fields Brisbin Cook Proviso 50 Samuel Brisbon Kane Burlington 84 Wesley Brisban Tazewell 133 William Brisben DeKalb Maxfield 299 INDIANA John J. Brisben Jefferson Madison 1 Victor Brisben Jefferson Madison 69 John J. Brisber Jefferson Madison 1 Marcus C.B. Brisber Jefferson Madison 2 Samuel Brisbon Jefferson 3th Ward Madison 120 David Brisbern Johnson Blue River 108 John Brisbuns Johnson Blue River 113 Arther Brisbane Ripley Delaware 213 IOWA James Brisburne Muscatine Bloomington 10 James Brisbine Muscatine Muscatine 348 William Brisbine Cedar Iowa twp 86 KENTUCKY James C. Brisbin Bath Division 2 2 MICHIGAN William Brisbane Kent Ada 534 MISSOURI James Brisban St. Louis St. Louis 3rd Ward 291 William Brisbon St. Louis St. Louis 4th Ward 58 NEW JERSEY Alber Brisbane Bergen Lode twp 189 VIRGINIA Juber Brisban Chesterfield Upper Dist. 80 WISCONSIN William Brisber Fond du Lac Waupun 331 Squire Brisbin Jefferson Palmyra 173 & 174 NEW YORK - 1850 James H. Brisbin Albany West Troy 118 Merrett Brisbane Cayuga Brutus 397 Persis Brisbane Cayuga Brutus 397 Elizabeth Brisbin Clinton Champlain 480 Ezekiel Brisbin Clinton Champlain 445 Patrick Brisbin Clinton Moores 415 Margaret Brisbane Deleware Andes 495 Robert Brisbane Deleware Andes 495 James Brisbane Genesee Batavia 257 James M. Brisbane Genesee Oakfield 305 Margaret Brisbane Monroe Irondequoit 374 Ann Brisber New York NYC 4th Ward 66 Thomas Brisbine New York NYC 7th Ward 56 William Brisbane New York NYC 17th Ward 109 Lurella Brisbin Onondaga Manlius 72 Ann Brisbin Saratoga Saratoga 253 George Brisbin Saratoga Saratoga Springs 201 Giles S. Brisbin Saratoga Saratoga 269 James C. Brisbin Saratoga Saratoga 269 John Brisbin Saratoga Saratoga 256 John B. Brisbin Saratoga Saratoga Springs 205 Joseph Brisbin Saratoga Saratoga Springs 225 Mary Brisbin Saratoga Saratoga 250 Oliver Brisbin Saratoga Saratoga 244 William C. Brisbin Saratoga Saratoga 270 William Brisbin Washington White Creek 311 Robert M. Brisbin Yates Starkey 147 OHIO - 1850 Julia Briskan Ashtabula Orwell 479 James Brisbine Columbiana Fairfield 107 James Brisbin Fairfield Rush Creek 429 James W. Brisen Fairfield Rush Creek 427 Samuel Brisbin Fairfield Rush Creek 429 John Brisen Franklin Columbus 1st Ward 380 B.D.J. Brisbane Hamilton Mill Creek 45 Catharine Brisbon Hamilton Springfield 107 James Brisbin Hamilton Green 447 Sarah Brisbin Hamilton Green 457 Robert Brisbond Hamilton Crosby 310 Robert Brisbond Hamilton Crosby 313 Timothy Brisband Hamilton Crosby 310 W.H. Brisbane Hamilton Green 452 Thomas Brisben Harrison Stock 319 Lamarsha Brisbain Huron Norwalk 60 Robert Brisbain Huron Sherman 109 Ann Brisbain Jefferson Streubenville 22 Thornton Brisbine Stark Paris 388 Albert G. Brisbane Trumbull Hubbard 326 Leslie Brisbane Trumbull Hubbard 327 Maria Brisbane Trumbull Hubbard 326 S.W. Brisbane Trumbull Hubbard 327 Thomas Brisbane Trumbull Hubbard 336 William Brisbane Trumbull Hubbard 326 James Brisbane Trumbull Liberty 262 Andrew Brisben Tuscarawas Uhricksville 587 John Brisben Tuscarawas Uhricksville 583 John Brisbon Tuscarawas Mill 613 PENNSYLVANIA - 1850 Jane Brisban Allegheny Allegheny Cty 176 Mary E. Brisbin Allegheny Manchester 327 Samuel Brisbard Allegheny Pittsburgh Ward 6 420 William Brisbin Allegheny Patton 285 William Brisban Allegheny Plum 300 Benjamin Brisban Centre Halfmoon 260 Elyra Brisbin Centre Harris 100 John Brischley Centre Liberty 174 Joshua Brisban Centre Patton 273 David Brishen Clarion Monroe 48 Enos Brisbon Clarion Perry 164 George Brisbin Clarion Clarion 9 John Brisban Clarion Toby 67 William Brisbin Clearfield Brady 422 William Brisbane Crawford Conneautville 87 John T. Brisbane Cumberland Carlisle 355 Mary Brisben Dauphin Harrisburg 56 David Brisben Lancaster Salisbury 62 David Brisbon Lancaster Leacock 108 Julian Brisbon Lancaster Leacock 111 Margaret Brisbin Mifflin Brown 191 William Brisbin Mifflin Lewistown 240 Mrs. Brisbain Philadelphia South Ward 184 Elizabeth Brisber Philadelphia Middle Ward 37 William Brisbane Philadelphia Pine Ward 282 Esther Brisben Union Penns twp 72 John Brisben Venango Cranberry 24 John Brisbin Venango Cranberry 24 Alexander Brisbane Washington Hanover 71 John Brisban Westmoreland Hempfield 250 Thomas Brislan Westmoreland Unity 390

WILL OF WILLIAM BRISBAN, written 24 Oct 1836, proven 28 Dec 1836 [Copied from a photocopy of the original given to me by Muriel Brisbin Morrison] In the Name of God Amen. I William Brisben of Hempfield Township Westmoreland County. __ being rather weak in body but of sound and ____ ____ memory Do make this my last will & Testament. First of all I commit my soul into the hands of my Creator who gave it and my body to the Earth, to be intered in the burial ground of W. Dick's Church at the descretion of my executors herein after named. And as to the Worldly Estate with which it hath pleased God bless me - I dispose of it as follows - 1st - To my beloved wife Jennet should she survive me I will bequeath the oldest of the two mares - her choice of the two cows - six sheep, One Bedstead Bed ___ing, and any part of the Household Kitchen furniture she may choose, and all the money I may have on hand at my decease to be disposed of by her as she may think best. 2.. To my daughter Jane McDowell, wife of John McDowell, I will & bequeath fifty dollars - and direct my Executor to give up to said John McDowell a Note Dated 12 March 1819 for $50. which I paid for him & ____ the note from John Kuhns which with former advancements to them shall be in f___ of any interest or claim they may have in my real or personal estate. 3. To my Grand Daughter Sarah Wasson, daughter of my son James, Decd - I give & bequeath five dollars. 4. To my daughter Rebecca Blackburn wife of Jospeh Blackburn I give & bequeath the sum of One hundred Dollars as her full share & interest in my whole Estate. 5. To my Daughter Peggy Loughery, wife of John Loughery, I give & bequeath the sum of Ten dollars - and to her Son William Laughery and to the heirs of his body begotton for__ in fee simple I will & bequeath Ten Acres of land to be taken off the South end of that part of my farm Surveyed and laid off by Joesph Stoksly intended for John McDowell a number of years ago and containing 100 acres & 25 perches - the said Ten Acres will adjoin Harry Heanor. To be laid off the said 100 acres ___ ____ a ___ by my Executor herein after named. My said Daughter Peggy to live on it if she may think proper during her natural life. 6. To my daughter Jennet: wife of Robert Mitchell, I give and bequeath the sum of one hundred dollars as her just interest & share in my whole Estate. 7. To my Son William Brisbine and to his heirs & assigns forever in fee simple. I give and bequeath Ninety Acres & 25 perches of land off the East side of my farm adjoining Long & Fulton being the ___ of the 100 acres & 25 perches mentioned in the 5th bequest above ) as his just share & interest in my whole Estate. 8. To my Son John Brisbine and to his heirs and assigns forever in fee Simple. I give and bequeath One hundred and fifty acres of the land I now possess in the Town __ & County afornamed adjoining Jacob Donovan, Adam Horn, Tobias Shoemaker, & Adam Long - and the said John Brisban is to pay the foregoing Legacees ___ ___ to within one year after my decease and also to furnish his Mother, should she survive me with a comfortable room, Fire, & provisions during her natural life. 9th To my Grand Son William, son of John and to his heirs and assigns forever in fee Simple. I will and d___ all the rest ___ of my land whereon I now live supposed to be between 30 & 40 acres - I also give him a young three year old mare, and a new saddle & bridle to be paid for out of proceeds of the sale by ___ of any of my moveable property, and I also give him my Rifle, gun powder horn & shot pouch. 10. It is my will & desire that any personal property that may be on hand at my decease, & not taken by my wife, be sold at public vendue - and the proceeds of sale applied to the payment of my funeral expenses & just debts - and the balance, if any, to be my son John's to enable him to pay off the foregoing legasees. 11. It is also my will and desire, _ __ the Coal Pit now opened on my farm by the f____ ___ will be in my son Johns part. That my son William and my son in law John Laughery as long as they respectively occupy the portions of land d___ to them have the privilige of digging ___ any coal from said pit, they may want for their own home use, but for no other purpose. 12. And lastly I nominate and appoint my son John Brisban & James B Ohon Exeecuators of this my last will & Testament and hereby I revoke and annull all former wills or bequests. In Witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and Seal this twenty fourth day of October - in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred thirty-six. It is my desire that the lines of the portions of land ___ to my son Wm & my Grnad Son Wm Laughery be laid off under the direction of my Executors above named - by a straight line from Adam Longs land to Philip Saness[?] line. Signature [very shakey] William Brisbane Signed Sealed Published & declared by the above named William Brisban ___ __ ___ for his last Will & Testament in teh presence of us, who at his request and in his presence subscribed our names as Witnesses: Samuel Oliver John Long Westmoreland County ___ Before me ... Register of Probate 28 Dec 1836 Jonathan Roso[?]

Hi all - the following I dl from the Univ. of FL library catalog. I can't vouch for all of the territorial books but I have spent a lot of time in the FL territory books. There are 4 of them and each is indexed. I have found them to be a big help in my FL research. Many of the early petitions to the US govt. are listed in them telling where the petition was signed, by whom and what the petition was for. You can send to the archives in DC for a copy of the petition. There are 28 volumes to the set which include all the territories. Major universities and large libraries should have all the volumes. You may even be able to get them on interbrary loan. I could not find what each vol. was for in the UF catalog but if someone found that at some library it would be most helpful to us to know which territories are in which volumes. Anne Futch Author: Carter, Clarence Edwin, 1881-1961. Title: The territorial papers of the United States. Published: Washington, U.S. Govt. Print. Off., 1934- Description: v. 26 cm. Notes: Vols. 2-14, 16-17 issued by the Dept. of State as its Publication no. 636, 647, 855, 1032, 1189, 1383, 1384, 1529, 1768, 1965, 2236, 3096, 3087, 3502, 3620. Vol. 15, issued by the National Archives as its Publication no. 51-9, 53-20, 54-15, 56-10, 57-4, 59-2, 60-2, 61-4, 62-8. Other authors: United States. Dept. of State. LOCATION: LIBRARY WEST CALL NUMBER: 973.08 U58t LIBRARY HAS: v. 1-28

Hi Ken & all - Thanks for your sites. The main reason I sent the other site is because it is a search for antebellum books & periodicals and shows the actual pages of the old article. Most of what I found for Brisbin was for James Sanks but pretty interesting. The site is called the "Making of America". You can't print from your pages at the site but in Internet Explorer if you right click the page and save it to disk you can open it as a .gif file later in your browser and print it. It was late last night when I found it. Should have been more specific. Following is from the site: Making of America (MOA) is a digital library of primary sources in American social history from the antebellum period through reconstruction. The collection is particularly strong in the subject areas of education, psychology, American history, sociology, religion, and science and technology. The collection contains approximately 1,600 books and 50,000 journal articles with 19th century imprints. The project represents a major collaborative endeavor in preservation and electronic access to historical texts. The Making of American collection is made up of images of the pages in the books and journals. When you find something you want to look at, you will see a scanned image of the actual pages of the 19th century volume. Optical Character Recognition (OCR) has been performed on the images to enhance searching and accessing the texts, but because we are concerned about the reliability of the OCR, we have chosen to present the page images -- for more on the OCR process see About MOA. A small, but growing, group of texts has also been fully processed and can be viewed either as page images or electronic text. Making of America is made possible by a grant from the Andrew W. Mellon Foundation. Making of America is best viewed with a frames-capable browser. http://www.umdl.umich.edu/moa/ Anne Futch

Hi Jackie, Yes, you may post my note to you a few days ago. I was interested in knowing if you were looking for the William in Hempfield Township. My personal research has not gone back beyond 1758, although we have collected copies of documents. Putting the pieces together has been challenging. This William's decendents later moved to Iowa. I understand that possibly two uncles moved to Oregon in the 1800's. So far, I have not seen any information or requests of information concerning ancestors in the Iowa area. I would love to make connections to my line of Brisbines. Karol Hi Karol and Anyone who can shed light on the Westmoreland family! Karol, even though I am not a descendant of your William Brisbine of Westmoreland County, I feel that it is really important that I learn about him. If he is the son of Capt. John Brisbin, then my William in Centre County was not. You hold the key!!! Please tell me more about him. Who was his wife? How did you link him to Capt. John? I have some information that I'll paste below. I got it from Muriel Brisbin Morrison who now lives in Oregon. She isn't doing genealogy any more because her husband is very ill. Is this William yours? I have run across two Brisbine men in Oregon. I have a copy of the estate probate of a William Brisbine. John Brisbine of Yamhill County was appointed administrator of the estate of William Brisbine of Clackamas County in Dec 1852. I have always wanted to identify these two. I believe John Brisbine had a Donation Land Claim too, and I could easily get that for you if you'd like. There are a few Iowa Brisbine families on the 1850 Census Index CD. A William was in Iowa twp, Cedar County, Iowa. I'm not finished with this list yet, will work on it today. Then will post it. Here is what I have on William Brisbine of Westmoreland Co., PA. Please feel free to make corrections and additions. Thank you for your help! I can think of a lot more questions, but will restrain myself for now. :) Jackie 1 William Brisbin, Pvt. b: 1758 d: 20 Dec 1836 Hempfield, Westmoreland, PA .+Jennet Moore m: Aft. 1778 d: Aft. 24 Oct 1836 ..2 Peggy Brisbin b: Aft. 1779 .... +John Loughery ...3 William Loughery ..2 Jane Brisbin b: Aft. 1779 .... +John McDowell m: 20 Dec 1798 Mt. Pleasant, Westmoreland, PA ..2 Rebecca Brisbin b: Aft. 1779 .... +Joseph Blackburn ..2 Jennet Brisbin b: Aft. 1779 .... +Robert Mitchell ..2 William Brisbin, Jr. b: Aft. 1779 ..2 John Brisbin b: Aft. 1779 .... +??? ...3 William Brisbin b: Aft. 1810 ..2 James Brisbin b: Aft. 1779 d: Bef. 1836 .... +??? ...3 Sarah Brisbin b: 1800-1820 ....... +??? Wasson NOTES: I have a photocopy of this William Brisbin's will, sent by Muriel Brisbin Morrison. He is also listed in the DAR lineage records. Could this William be the son of James Brisbin who died Westmoreland Co in 1779? James' Will went to probate 25 Aug 1779 and his oldest son William was appointed administrator.

HI Everybody, I'm pasting correspondence here, with Karol's permission, that we recently had about the Brisbine family of Westmoreland. I have some more questions Karol! I'll post this, anyone who can help with information about the Westmoreland families please do! Hi Jackie, Nate Zipfel found a query we posted on the Brisbine name and sent me the address to subscribe to the BRISBIN_L list. After I subscribed Nate forwarded notes from you which I find extremely informative. We have been trying to locate documented information on this family for a long time. We made a trip to PA last fall and tried to copy mateial that we felt would be appropriate. At the end of one of your notes you asked "Where is our William?" Are you looking for the William that was born around 1758? If so, he is the first William on our line of four generations of William Brisbine. We have an e on the end of Brisbine but I think it is the same family. My 1758 William lived in Hempfield township in Westmoreland Co. Chuck Snyder and I recently started comparing notes on this William and I suggested that he also subscribe because he knew that Capt. John was the father of this William and he was apparently also a Capt. in the Revolutionary War. Let me know what you think. Karol Bruechert Hi Karol, Thanks for writing about the Brisbins. ...Just today I decided to sort William Brisbins. And was wondering again about William in Hempfield, Westmoreland Co., PA. He has perplexed mefor years! The question I asked, 'Where is my William?' is refering to a list (a stray scrap of paper really, not published) that Carlene Cohn found in a book at a Pennsylvania Historical Society library. Children of Capt. John Brisbin were listed on it, but not a William. It seems to be commonly accepted, but I can't prove it with primary documents, that William Brisbin of Centre County was a son of Capt. John Brisbin and his first wife Elinor Adcock. There are so many John Brisbins and Williams that the field gets CROWDED! I have 23 William Brisbins in my database and know that there are more. I won't even count the ones named John. I am certain of my descent from Frances Ann Brisbin b 17 Oct 1728. She married Morgan R. Savage on the plains 18 Jun 1846 and lived a long life in Oregon. Her father was John Brisbin. He died 1846 in the Cow Creek Canyon in Southern Oregon just short of their destination. John was a widower at the time. His descendants in Oregon left behind information that he was b 18 Feb 1781. He married Mary Miller in about 1803. He was a teacher, a judge, and a legislator. There are records of his work in Illinois. At least 3 of his children were born in Centre County, PA and we cannot find his marriage record. William Brisbin and his wife Sarah Moore appear to have been his parents. They lived in Centre County, PA and both named son John in their wills. Sarah named a granddaughter, Sarah dau of John, in her will, leaving them both something. Therefore John was not deceased, and our John Brisbin's first daughter was named Sarah Moore Brisbin. Later he named a son, William Moore Brisbin. So, the circumstancial evidence seems to point to these parents for him. William Brisbin of Centre County was born about 1757/58. Perhaps in Lancaster County. He died in Centre County in 1809. He had 11 children, and I have found out at least a little about most of them. But, things break down when it comes to proving that he was a son of Capt. John Brisbin. I have seen it in many genealogies, but not on a primary document. And, I don't have a long list of supporting evidence like I do connecting his son John. Every Brisbin family I have found named sons William and John, then Samuel and James! The girls were mostly Mary, Sarah, Elizabeth. Not the least bit helpful! Where are names like Irijah and Zithiry, like in my Byars family?????? Guess you can only get lucky once! Below I am pasting my notes for the William and James Brisbins of Westmoreland County. Can you shed any light on them for me? I just recently got the Census Index CDs from Family Tree Maker and will be looking them all up, but it takes a lot of time. Do you know how a Hiram Brisbin b abt 1815 in PA ties in? He could possibly be a descendant from the below James and William. Do you know how Arthur Brisbin ties in? I have notes on a couple of Arthur Brisbins too. The little note list is the only place where I have seen Arthur connected as a son of Capt. John Brisbin. Then there is Capt. William Brsibin m to Elizabeth Watson who is thought to be the brother of Capt. John. I have a lot about this family too. I am going to be posting to the list one day soon, I hope, the lists of all the Brisbins (of any spelling I can find) from the census CDs. There are three John Brisbins in the 1790 from PA. I'll be happy to forward any of my notes to you too. If you'd like we can talk about this on the list. That way others may have their memories sparked, and write in with little bits of information they have picked up too. When it is all compiled then we may get a better picture of how things were. All for now. It was nice to hear from you. Jackie Descendants of James Brisbin 1 James Brisbin b: Bef. 1739 d: Bef. 25 Aug 1779 Westmoreland Co., PA ..2 William Brisbin b: Bef. 1760 Westmoreland Co., PA ?? d: Unknown JAMES BRISBIN On 25 Aug 1779 William Brisbin, eldest son of the deceased, James Brisbin, was appointed administrator of the estate of his father. This was in Westmoreland Co.. William was ordered to make an Inventory of the personal estate and file the same in the Registers office at or before the 25 day of September next. He was ordered to make a calculation and reckoning of his administration on or before the 25th day of Aug. next. Publications of Genealogical Society of PA Vol. 6; Abstracts of Administrations of Westmoreland County found in will book #1, James Bristin Aug. 25, 1779 to eldest son William Briston. This James Brisbin died during the Revolutionary War. It would be interesting to find out of he died in the service of the Army or of other causes at home. It might also help to see if there was a will listing other family members. It seems to me that if William was made administrator of his father's estate and given these responsibilities, then he must have been an adult. Assuming he was at least 19, then he was born before 1760. James was an adult with an adult son when he died in 1779. He must have been at least 40 at the time of his death. He would have been born before 1739. I wonder what his relationship is to Capt John b 1930 and Capt William b 1728? Could he be another brother or a cousin????? Could this be William Brisbin b 1758 found in the DAR records (pvt. PA) who is married to Jennet Moore? That William d Hempfield, Westmoreland Co., PA, 20 Dec 1836 leaving in his will (written 24 Oct 1836), wife Jennet and children; Jane w of John McDowel, Rebecca w of Joesph Blackburn, Peggy w of John Loughery, Jennet wife of Robert Mitchell, William Jr., John, and James who died before 1836?

Ken Brisbin wrote: Further to your comment regarding emigration from Canada to USA in the 1830's, you are correct in that a number of UEL's and descendents left (Canada) for NY, IL, IA, MI etc. Some of the ones which I picked out quickly were as follows: - Richard of 1838 in 1870 to MI - John of 1836 in 1865 to NY - Samuel of 1828 in 1840 to IL - Daniel of 1822 in 1844 to IL - Hannah of 1813 in ???? to IL - John of 1804 in 1844 to IL - William of 1806 in 1850's to IA - Charles of 1828 in 1870's to IA - Samuel of 1797 in 1850's to IL or IA - Jacob of 1798 in 1842 to IL Thank you Ken, this is great. I think I may be able to add to this list using the US Cenusus. It will be interesting to get them identified! Jackie

Hi Anne There are some very effective search vehicles available on the net for finding persons. Two that I use follow directly. Worldpages has been particularly good - enter "brisbin", and then just a Province or a State. "http://www.switchboard.com/bin/cgiqa.dll?MG=" "http://www.worldpages.com/reshome.html" ken brisbin ________________________________________________________ At 11:03 PM 3/2/98 -0500, Anne Futch wrote: >This is a really neat site. Put in Brisbin for search and you'll come up >with actual pages that Brisbin was listed on. > >http://www.umdl.umich.edu/moa/ > > >Does anyone know where Glenswick, PA is. > >Anne

This is a really neat site. Put in Brisbin for search and you'll come up with actual pages that Brisbin was listed on. http://www.umdl.umich.edu/moa/ Does anyone know where Glenswick, PA is. Anne

1840 US Census Index, Selected Counties, Family Tree Maker CD #316, by Broderbund Software. state & name county town page CONNECTICUT Mary J. Brisbane Fairfield Stratford 389 INDIANA John Jack Brisbon Jefferson Madison 153 W. H. Brisbon Jefferson Madison 163 James Y. Brisbun Johnson 288 IOWA William Brisbine Cedar 01113001-00011001 NEW YORK Pirces (?) Brisbon Cayuga Brutus 184 Ezekiel Brisbane Clinton Champlain 221 James Brisban Genesee Tatavia 479 Siles Brisbane New York NY Cty, 8th Ward 333 Thomas Brisbane New York NY Cty, 4th Ward 185 William Brisbane New York NY Ct, 17th Ward 254 Samuel Brisben Saratoga Saratoga-Schuyler 250 William Brisban Saratoga Saratoga 240 OHIO James Brisbine Columbiana Elkrun 216 Arthur Brisborn Hamilton Crosby 378 Richard Brisben Jefferson Richmond 92 Samule Brisbine Portage Deerfield 241 John Brisbain Trumbull Liberty 249 D.E. Brisbine Trumbull Youngstown 245 Andrew Birsben Tuscarawas Uhricksville 322 John Brisben Tuscarawas Mill twp 327 PENNSYLVANIA Samuel Brisben Allegheny Pittsburgh W Ward 355 William Brisben Allegheny Elizabeth 306 Jane Brisbine Allegheny Pittsburgh E Ward 446 Elizabeth Brisban Armstrong Clarion 79 John Brisben Centre Potter 178 John Jr. Brisben Centre Potter 178 Samuel Brisbin Centre Harris 125 William Brisbin Centre Harris 123 Ezra Brisbine Centre Harris 128 William Brisben Clearfield Brady 306 James Brisbon Mifflin Brown 42 James W. Brisbin Northumberland Sunbury 234 John Brisben Westmoreland Hempfield 393 William Brisbine estmoreland Franklin 294 SOUTH CAROLINA Mrs. Mary Brisbane Charleston Dist Charleston 2nd W 19 S.S. Brisbane Chester Dist St. Andrews 143 Susan M. Brisbane Chester Dist St. Andrews 143 W. Brisbane Dorchester Dist St. Pauls Parish 202

Hi Anne, I just wrote to both of those people and asked their permission to post their messages to the group. And I told them about the 'reply to all' button. Hope they respond. Jackie

1830 Census Index; Selected Counties; Family Tree Maker CD #315, by Broderbund Software. ILLINOIS William Brisborn Adams Quincy 278 John Brisburn Morgan 47 William Brisby Morgan 62 INDIANA Robert Brisbane Franklin 271 John Brisbin Jefferson 119 NEW YORK James R. Brisbin Cayuga Brutus 196 John C. Brisbon Chenango Norwich 156 Ezekiel Brisban Clinton Champlain 337 James Brisban Genesee Batavia 323 Collnoer Brisbane St. Lawerence Lisbon 104 Joseph Brisbin Saragota Hilton 257 William C. Brisbin Saratoga Hilton 256 OHIO James Brisbee Hamilton Mill Creek 245 John Brisbey Columbiana Elk Run 387 John Brisban Tuscarawas Dohman 42 David Brisbine Trumbull Youngstown 223 PENNSYLVANIA William Brisban Allegheny Versaile 169 Ezra Brisbin Centre Ferguson 409 John Brisbin Centre Potter 341 Samuel Brisbin Centre Ferguson 406 Julian Brisben Lancaster Salisbury 248 John Brisbein Westmoreland Hempfield 82 William Brisbin Jr. Westmoreland Hempfield 85 Jane Brisbine Westmoreland Salem 245 SOUTH CAROLINA A. Brisbane Colleton Dist 456 W. John Brisbane Colleton Dist 456 John Brisbane Charleston Dist Charleston City 101 William Brisbane Charleston D., St. James, Goose Creek 172 Mary Brisbanes Charleston Dist Charleston City 23 TEXAS Sarah Brisbim Austin Co. State list? 1834 & 1838

1820 Census Index, US Selected Counties, Family Tree Maker CD #314, by Broderbund Software. This list is only of the names included on the CD. There are mistakes and not all counties or states are included. I know that a John Brisbin is also listed in the schedules of Christian County, Kentucky. I've seen that entry myself. It is not on the CD. South Carolina is not on this CD. INDIANA John Brisben Jefferson 286 KENTUCKY Brisban, William Christian 42 NEW YORK Harley Brisbee Chenango Coventry 167 Isaac Brisbee Chenango Pharsalia 275 James R. Brisban Oneida Whitestown 292 James Brisbin Saratoga Saratoga 199 James Brisbin, Jr. Saratoga Saratoga 199 James J. Brisbin Saratoga Saratoga 199 William Brisbin Saratoga Saratoga 198 OHIO James Brisbine Columbiana Centre 86 Samuel Brisby Columbiana Elk Run 56 Robert Brisbin Hamilton Columbia 140 John Brisben Harrison Vienna 8 Joseph Brisbee Trumbull Youngstown 283 PENNSYLVANIA Arthur Brisben Allegheny Plumb 197 Arthur Brisbin Allegheny Plumb 196 William Brisben Allegheny Versailles 188 James Brisban Armstrong Redbank 274 Ezra Brisben Centre Ferguson 236 John Brisben Centre Potter 254 Samule Brisbon Centre Patton 194 Samuel Brisben Huntingdon Alexandria-porter 72 David Brisbane Lancaster Salisbury 272 Henry Brisbane Lancaster Salisbury 272 James Brisben Mifflin Armaugh 198 William Brisben Mifflin Lewiston Borough 202 Hiram Brisbee Wayne Canaan 53 John Brisben Westmoreland Hempfield 117 William Brisban Westmoreland Hempfield 117 Wid Brizeba Westmoreland Salem 147

Hi Margie! (and Everyone), [Lyn, I see where you got your info now!] I have been thinking about you and wondering if you were still on the list! Glad to hear from you. I've been going to write you a 'real' letter in case you weren't on line, but just haven't gotten to it. I think spring has come to New Hampshire. The maple sugar people all have their cans out on the trees. Always a good sign! I just read Anne's note too. She is right. Unfortunately we don't really have any good primary documents with proof beyond a shadow of a doubt linking William Brisbin (with wife Sarah Moore) as the son of Capt. John. And the marriage in Maryland of Elinor Adcock & John Brisbin could be any John Brisbin. I recently received a copy of a letter written by James Sanks Brisbin in 1861. IF it is true, or even the general gist of it, then our William may have been an immigrant and he may not have been a son of Capt. John. This is all pretty unsettling! Previous genealogists seem to have made the decision that William was John's son and they published the information. But, where are their proofs? I have always accepted it too, up to now. We have had a message from some folks who found that William Brisbin of Westmoreland county was a son of Capt. John. This is possible. Arthur is in Westmoreland county, and he looks like he may be a son of Capt. John's too. There are many problems with this letter, I might add. William and Sarah (Moore) had more children than he lists. And I don't even agree with all the information he gives on them. I feel like James Sanks Brisbin didn't really know his family very well. But, he was the youngest son of a youngest son, so a lot of time had gone by. I sure do wonder who the 'Mr. Brisbin' was that he was writing to! I have never heard the story of a William Brisbin fighting at the Alamo either. He is not on any official list. This may be pure family lore! But, again I have lost the William who was my John Brisbin's brother. He could have gone to Texas. Wish some of his descendants would show up on our list! I'll copy & paste the letter below. All for now. Hope you have something that can help. Jackie The following was sent to me by John Lyon Brisbin, Jr. (Feb 1998) His copy says that this letter was written August 1861. The original is located at the Montana Historical Society Archives, Helena, Montana. I have copied it exactly as it was sent to me. Special Statement Mr. Brisbin DrSir [sic] Feeling confident that a statement relative to our family will be highly satisfactory to you I beg leave to communicate the following information which I have from time to time gathered from many sources. So far as I can learn there was originally but one family of the Brisbins who dwelt in Ireland near Dublin City. From this stock all the Brisbins now in America have descended One branch of the Brisbin family in Ireland lived in Cork. My great grandfather lived in Dublin and was engaged in one of the Irish Rebellions. My grandfather was a citizen of Dublin also and to [sic] part in the rebellion of 1798. The rebellion failed and he was compelled to leave Ireland. He escaped from the Irish Coast by being put into a Hogshead and rolled on ship board in the night. In thus he remained until the vessel was three days at sea and clear of the English Cruiziers [?] It is said to be a fact that the British officers actually boarded the ship on which my grandfather was and that one of the British officers actually rolled over the Hogshead in which my ancestor was concealed. After coming to this country my grandfather first settled in West Chester, Pennsylvania but afterwards removed to Boalsburg Pennsylvania in Centre Co. His family joined him soon after coming to America and he lived for many years at Boalsburg and finally died there. He left to my knowledge five sons and one daughter Amos, William, Joshua, Samuel and Ezra and Mary Amos was out in the War of 1812 and died soon after the close of the war William fought in the War of 1812 and afterwards removed to Texas He was also engaged in the ______ Texan War and died at the fall of the Alamo. He is said to have been one of the seven who when all their companions had fallen were asked if they would surrender They said No and died fighting The wonderful David Crockett the world wide known Mike Fink and the brave and celebrated James Bowie the inventor of the Bowie Knife were among the seven who refused to surrender William Brisbin has now a son William living in Lower Texas who is a sheepherder My Uncle Joshua was out in the War of 1812 and died on his way home after its close He is said to have been a powerful man measuring four feet across the shoulders and six feet four inches in height My Uncle Samuel lived for many years with my father but afterwards went to Arkansas where he had a son and daughter living. Soon after arriving in Arkansas he died. My father still live [sic] as Boalsburg in Centre County on the old family homestead of his father. Mary married a man by the name of Boal and removed to Clarion Co. Pennsylvania where she was living a few years ago a widow my father married a lady by the name of Packer They had eleven children of whom eight are living Joshua, Ellen, Eliza, Sarah, Bethsheba, Charlotta, Isabella & James. Eliza married a man by the name of Jamison and resides at Blainsville, Pa Ellen is married to Dr. R. Hunter a man of celebrity Isabella and Charlotta married two brothers Jesse and John Morgan the [sic] reside in Centre Co Bethsheba married to Col. Wm W Brown a man of some note. They also live in Centre Co Joshua is married to a lady by the name of Neil and lives in Center Co Sarah the youngest daughter is unmarried My wife's name was Wagner a daughter of David M. Wagner's formerly of the firm of Wagner Thomas & Sons I was born at Boalsburg Centre Co. And brought up on a farm I read Law with Bro-in-law [sic] Col Brown and afterwards brought and printed a paper in Centre Co I recd an appointment of 2d Leiut [sic] in the Regular Army soon after my connection with the newspaper I retired from the paper and soon after engaged in the war I was at the Battle of Bulls Run and twice-wounded in that engagement I was promoted a Captain on the 5th of August 1861 which position I now hold If you will desire it I can furnish you a sketch of the people by the name of Brisbin that I have met at different [sic] times and places. I will be glad to receive any information concerning our people and will feel truly greatful [sic] if you will write out what you may know about them. Very Respectfully Your obt Sevt James S. Brisbin Capt 6th Cavalry US Regular Army

Hi thee Jackie; I'm including myself in the "everyone" else that you and Anne are sending to. Have not done much lately, but little bit by little bit am getting better and more with it. I am taking down everything you and anyone else puts out and hope to go thru and sort out eventually., Just letting you know we are still here and listening or looking if nothing else. Have had some tremendous luck . thru others, on Darrell's maternal grandmother that lay dormant for over 20 years. Wishing you all well and the best of luck and glad to hear of you on line. Margie Marjorie L Morrow 17555 S Troutcreek Rd. Molalla, OR 97038-9720 503-829-2616 dmorrow@molalla.net

1810 Census Index, US Selected Counties, Family Tree Maker CD #313, by Broderbund Software. The following is a list of Brisbin families on this CD. Keep in mind that the CD does not include every county in every state. It may not even include every state. The count, when given, is the same as for the 1800 census. name county town page count KENTUCKY William Brisburn Christian 54 10201-1001000 James Brisbey Jessamine 61 31010-1011000 Nancy Brisby Franklin 116 01201-1100000 NEW YORK James Brisban Genesee 97 11010-00111 James Brisben Saratoga 259 10201-00121 James Brisben, Jr. Saratoga 259 11010-10010 James J. Brisben Saratoga 259 22001-10010 Cruth Brisbin Saratoga 219 00201-01102 OHIO John Bresby Jefferson Archer 39 tax list Mary Brisband Jefferson Island Creek 61 tax list PENNSYLVANIA Andrew Brisburn Chester W. Nottingham 206 John Brisburn Chester W. Nottingham 206 John Brisben Centre Potter 178 Sarah Brisben Centre Ferguson 176 Esther Brisben Dauphin Lower Paxton 43 John Brisben Lancaster Manor 535 William Brisben Lancaster Salisbury 439 James Brisben Mifflin Armagh 39 John Brisben Mifflin Union 42 Arthur Brisban Westmoreland S. Huntington 125 James Brisban Westmoreland S. Huntington 124 Robert Brisban Westmoreland S. Huntington 124 William Brisbin Westmoreland Hempfield 97

Census Index Colonial America 1607-1789; Family Tree Maker CD #310, by Broderbund Software. I'm not sure how they compiled this CD. As you can see, none of our PA or NY Brisbins are on it. SOUTH CAROLINA James Brisbane Beaufort Dist 1778 William Brisbane Beaufort Dist 1778 Robert Brisbane Charleston Dist Charleston 1758 William Brisbane Charleston Dist Charleston 1741 William Brisbane Charleston Dist Charleston 1740 William Brisbane Charleston Dist Charleston 1758 James Brisbane South Carolina Colony, Loyalist list 1783