You have been most helpful, I have kept every Email, but My Benjamin still seems to elude us. I know that he did not come from the Sheppard Brinson and the Marion county FLorida bunch. That Benjamin F Brinson was born in 1845 and married Susan Tutun. From this time--- The Benjamin was born in 1835 almost a 20 year difference. I still think that Cyprian Brinson is my key. Any more thoughts? Kathy ==== BRINSON Mailing List ==== Subscribe to the BRINSON list. http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/5248/brinsonlist.html