I have searched high and low, but have found no documentation to this point as to the actual maiden name of Elizabeth Brimer. I have searched for any Elgins in the areas that Elizabeth was known to live, but have found none. I know the origination of the Elgin rumor and I know there was no documented foundation for that particular rumor. I would like to hope that someone somewhere has a document that gives her maiden name. ...Marjorie ================================================== In a message dated 7/4/2006 1:08:40 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, kdbrimer65@msn.com writes: I have undocumented info that James mother was Elizabeth Elgin. Found info posted on ancestry.com.