Hi again, Kathy, I wish that I could locate the copy of Benjamin Brimer's Last Will & Testament that I have here someplace, but I've moved twice since I received it and a lot of my records have been in boxes for years. I don't have a clue where to find it just now. That said, just a few weeks ago, I was in contact with one of the gggrandsons of William Nelson Brimer/Brymer. He informed me that Wm. Nelson was the son of Joseph Brimer/Brymer, not Benjamin. Also, William Nelson Brimer/Brymer died in Alabama. My gggggrandfather, Wm. Brimer, born 1759 (the Rev. War Vet.) died in Sevier County, TN. This is documented in the Widow's Pension Papers of Elizabeth Brimer (William's wife) File # 336. Therefore, Wm. Nelson Brimer/Brymer & Wm. Brimer, Rev. War Vet. cannot be the same person. I, too, believe, but have no documentation, that the 4 Brimers in the 1790 Census were related. This is just speculation on my part, of course. Here is the info that I have on Benjamin Brimer. Can you add anything to this? ...Marjorie Descendants of Benjamin Brimer Generation No. 1 1. BENJAMIN1 BRIMER was born Abt. 1733 in North Carolina, and died Bef. September 1803 in Pendleton District, South Carolina. He married REBECCA ...?... Abt. 1760 in Pendleton District, South Carolina. There was a Benjamin Brimer listed on the 1759 Rowan County, North Carolina Tax List. Don't know if it was this Benjamin. ___________________________________ There was a Benjamin Brimer listed on the 1773 List of Debtors of Col. John McGee, Orange County, North Carolina. Don't know if it was this Benjamin. ___________________________________ Children of BENJAMIN BRIMER and REBECCA ...?... are: 2. i. JOSEPH2 BRYMER, b. 1760, North Carolina; d. September 1823, Chandlers Creek, Hall County, Georgia. ii. JESSY BRIMER. (NOT SURE ABOUT THIS NAME) iii. NANCY BRIMER, m. ...?... MAUS. iv. BETSEY BRIMER, m. WILLIAM LEONARD. Generation No. 2 2. JOSEPH2 BRYMER (BENJAMIN1 BRIMER) was born 1760 in North Carolina, and died September 1823 in Chandlers Creek, Hall County, Georgia. He married CELIA HEARD February 1780 in Ninety Six, Abbeville, South Carolina. She was born 1761. More About JOSEPH BRYMER: Migration: Came from Pendleton District, South Carolina to Hall County, Georgia in 1808. Military service: North Carolina Militia, Revolutionary War Veteran Notes for CELIA HEARD: According to her Widow's Pension Application,; Celia had 9 children. Children of JOSEPH BRYMER and CELIA HEARD are: i. BENJAMIN3 BRYMER, b. 13 October 1781. ii. MARY BRYMER, b. 13 June 1782. 3. iii. WILLIAM NELSON BRYMER, b. 1797, South Carolina; d. 1872, Alabama. iv. JAMES BRYMER. Generation No. 3 3. WILLIAM NELSON3 BRYMER (JOSEPH2, BENJAMIN1 BRIMER) was born 1797 in South Carolina, and died 1872 in Alabama. Child of WILLIAM NELSON BRYMER is: i. JOHNATHON GREENBURY4 BRIMER, b. 1849. ============================================= In a message dated 7/4/2006 3:59:07 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, kdbrimer65@msn.com writes: This was found in some of my search, maybe someday we will be able to document. Will of Benjamin Brimer (Will Book A, page 38-29, roll 53) Memorandum of the last will and testament of Benjamin Brimer of the state of South Carolina and Pendleton District. I hersayth that I being sick of body, but of perfect mind, first I do bequeath unto my wife Rebeccah all my moveable property, goods, and chattels according to the interest her of and no man to interfere. This property is to be divided as follows at her decease 1/3 part to be given to Jessey Brimer, 1/3 part to be given to Nancy Maus, 1/3 part to be given to Betsy Leonard. I likewise do give and bequeath unto Caty Gober fifty dollars, I likewise do five and bequeath unto Rebecah five founds sterling. I likewise do will and bequeath into the under named person five shillings a piece, William Brimer, Polly Henry, James Brimer. I likewise do desire William Leonard to see to the business given under my had this day and year. A Columbia SC genealogy professor Brent Holcomb commented that he saw no relationship states to the William and James Brimer in the will. There is no info that they were minors at the time. The will makes no mention of real property. It is odd that Rebecca and Joseph applied for letters of administration, since there was a will. There is no administration bond on file. Thies is food indicaiton that Joseph was likely the eldest son who under English primogeniture law inherited all the land. The citation for letters of administration were published at Roberts Congregation, a Presbyterian Church. Sale of his personal property was 2 days of sale and totaled $516.34 on November 10 and 13, 1803. Rebecca was already married to Van Davis by Oct 28, 1803 (1 month after Benjamin's death). There may be a connection with the 4 Brimers in the 1790 Census and Joseph and William have War pensions and Jesse has a land grant in Burke County, NC 1798. Benjamin dies about Sept 9, 1803 and Rebbeca marries Van Davis Oct 1803 at Old Mountain Creek Baptist Church, Pendleton District. Benjamin is propable the father of William and Jesse as well as Joseph. >From: Mamt1984@aol.com >Reply-To: BRIMER-L@rootsweb.com >To: BRIMER-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [BRIMER] In search of George Rogers and wife, Tabitha Brimer >Rogers >Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2006 01:53:03 EDT > > >Kathy, >That's very interesting. What did you find to tie William in as the son of >Benjamin Brimer(father of Joseph Brimer)? >...Marjorie >=================================== >In a message dated 7/4/2006 1:17:58 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >kdbrimer65@msn.com writes: > >I have just tied Tabitha's father William into my Alabama Brimer's. >William's brother Joseph and wife Celia Heard settled in Georgia and their >son William Nelson Brimer moved on into Alabama. I have lots of info on >this branch of the family. As most of you, a great bit of it is from my >research and may not be documented. >Kathy Brimer > > > >From: Mamt1984@aol.com > >Reply-To: BRIMER-L@rootsweb.com > >To: BRIMER-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: Re: [BRIMER] In search of George Rogers and wife, Tabitha >Brimer > >Rogers > >Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2006 15:25:24 EDT > > > > > > > >Hi Lavonne, > > > > > >Do you have ANY other information on your John Brimer other than his > >approximate birth date? Such as: wife, children, grandchildren, location >of > >residence? I will search through my sources for you if you can give me > >more to work > >with. > > > > > >The John Brimer, from my files, whose birth date comes closest to your > >John's was born abt. 1809, married to Lesmina "Miney" or " Mincy" > >Carmichael on 18 > >May 1835 in Jefferson County, TN. Their children were: > >Houston, David, Harriet, Samuel, Martha, Amanda, & Andrew. > > > >I suspect that this John was the son of my ggggrandfather, John Brimer, >and > >thus the grandson of Wm. Brimer, the Rev. War Vet. However, I haven't > >made > >any documented connections. > > > >Have you researched another spelling of Brimer; ie: Brymer? > > > >My gggggrandfather, Wm. Brimer, the Rev.War Vet., had a son, Wm. >Brymer, > >who spelled his last name Brymer, unlike his father and brothers, who > >spelled > >their last name Brimer. > >I believe this Wm. Brymer, had a son named John. > > > >This John Brymer was born abt. 1811, married to Martha ..?.., >children's > >names: > >Tom, Louesia, Wm. W., Elvina, Caroline, Jackson, David, Newton T., > >Jasper, > >Amos Posey, > >Elizabeth, Asbury, Marion F., Rebecca "A.P.", Newell, & Louis. > >This family was shown on the 1860 Texas Census. (Several of Wm.Brymer's > >descendants, I believe, migrated to Texas.) > > > >I believe there was a John Brimer in Alabama too, but I can't find that > >info > >at just this moment. > > > > > >Could either of these be your John Brimer? > > > >Are there any other Brimers that you need info on? > > > >I am happy to share any Brimer / Brymer info with anyone. > > > >In response to your comment "in an effort to help us all", I will, in a > >separate email, begin "sharing" info on the list. I would like to see > >discussion > >on this List regarding the Brimers. I'm sure there are others on the >List > >that know a lot more than I do regarding some of the elusive Brimers, >such > >as > >your John and my Tabitha. (Who, by the way, I still have received no > >information on. :) > > > >If anyone on the List sees any errors in any of the information above, > >please let me know. > > > >...Marjorie > >_Mamt1984@aol.com_ (_mailto:Mamt1984@aol.com_ (mailto:Mamt1984@aol.com) ) > > > >============================================== > > > >In a message dated 7/2/2006 9:36:55 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > >lavonnew@flash.net writes: > > > >I am looking for about the same thing you are. We have a John Brimer > >born > >about 1815 in Jefferson County, Tennessee. Do you have much on the > >Brimers? He is a pain and can't find much on him and don't know his > >family. Would like to collect information on all there in an effort >to > >sort and help us all. Any help or where to look appreciated? Thanks > >much, Lavonne > >Lavonne Sanders Walker, 19603 13th Street, Shawnee, Ok. 74801 Phone > >405-273-3326 Email:lavonnew@flash.net > >