In a message dated 11/13/2003 11:17:37 AM Pacific Standard Time, dbyoung@insightbb.com writes: > Julia: which number(s) indicates German heritage? Dawnene < Dawnene, I am sure that there are many different Haplogroups and Haplotypes that are German. When you get your results, you will have 4 orange tabs on your personal webpage at FamilyTreeDNA.com. Clicking on one will tell you if you have matches within the current database. One will tell your recent origins and one will tell your ancient origins and your Haplogroup. On those two that are matched in green on our "Results" project page, the Haplogroup is one that is found in Germany, and their nearest match in the database is in Germany. That doesn't mean that their line came directly from Germany, it only means that the majority of people who have that Haplogroup are from Germany. All the others are British Isles, Norse and Viking. (We are talking ancient here) I am thinking about puting a row on the chart to show the Haplogroup because if two people are of a different Haplogroup, they can't be related. Julia

Julia: which number(s) indicates German heritage? Dawnene ----- Original Message ----- From: <JULIAFWOOD@aol.com> To: <BRIDGES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 12:37 PM Subject: Re: Spam 03 - [BRIDGES-L] James Bridges-1813-TN > In a message dated 11/13/2003 5:16:35 AM Pacific Standard Time, > rdbridges@swbell.net writes: > > > I was running down some info from Virginia in the 1700's and found where > a certain fellow named "van der Bruck" put language in the deed > indicating he was now to be referred to as "Bridges." Wish I'd have hung > onto it...seems like it was in Prince William county, does that sound > right to anyone familiar with VA? > < > > One of the results that could be German is from Frederick Co., VA. You can > see them in green at: http://small-stuff.com/BRIDGES/results.htm > > Julia > >

In a message dated 11/13/2003 9:52:53 AM Pacific Standard Time, homeschoolgarden@msn.com writes: > I am new to the group and was thrilled to see the first few posts talking about Bridges' from Germany. My g/g/g grandfather George Bridges is said to have been from Germany. It was written on his death certificate or something. I am very interested in finding any more information on him. He is my brick wall! He was living in Randolph county, Georgia at some point and married to Mary Pace. Son was George Thaddeus Bridges married to Sarah Jane Ellerbee. Do these Bridges sound familiar to anyone? I have some information on them but nothing before George. < Nancy, do you have any living Bridges males in your line that you could submit DNA for our project? It would be very ineresting if you match the other two who do not know they are German, but their DNA points to it. At any rate, a match with another Bridges would help you in your research. Julia

Hi everyone! I am new to the group and was thrilled to see the first few posts talking about Bridges' from Germany. My g/g/g grandfather George Bridges is said to have been from Germany. It was written on his death certificate or something. I am very interested in finding any more information on him. He is my brick wall! He was living in Randolph county, Georgia at some point and married to Mary Pace. Son was George Thaddeus Bridges married to Sarah Jane Ellerbee. Do these Bridges sound familiar to anyone? I have some information on them but nothing before George. Blessings, Nancy Bridges Thomas

In a message dated 11/13/2003 5:16:35 AM Pacific Standard Time, rdbridges@swbell.net writes: > I was running down some info from Virginia in the 1700's and found where a certain fellow named "van der Bruck" put language in the deed indicating he was now to be referred to as "Bridges." Wish I'd have hung onto it...seems like it was in Prince William county, does that sound right to anyone familiar with VA? < One of the results that could be German is from Frederick Co., VA. You can see them in green at: http://small-stuff.com/BRIDGES/results.htm Julia

There was a large German settlement in the New River area of SW VA in the area of Wythe/Smyth Co's during that time period. -----Original Message----- From: R. D. Bridges [mailto:rdbridges@swbell.net] Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 8:16 AM To: BRIDGES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Spam 03 - [BRIDGES-L] James Bridges-1813-TN >Where would I look for information on his parent? I find nothing on Bridges >being a German name. Has anyone else run across any Bridges that came from >Germany? Was there a German settlement in Tennessee at that time >frame---1810-1820? I was running down some info from Virginia in the 1700's and found where a certain fellow named "van der Bruck" put language in the deed indicating he was now to be referred to as "Bridges." Wish I'd have hung onto it...seems like it was in Prince William county, does that sound right to anyone familiar with VA? Seems like if van der Bruck could be translated into Bridges then the German equivalent could be also. Might want to find the German equivalent and see if it pops up anywhere in the location you think he might have come from/through.

Through reading various family histories, I have seen reference to alternate spellings of Bridges as Brugge, Bruges, Brydges and Bridges....Brugge and Bruges strike me as looking Germanic. (NB - I do not know German.) Just my two cents worth....but I'm not sure if it is even worth one cent. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "R. D. Bridges" <rdbridges@swbell.net> To: <BRIDGES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 8:16 AM Subject: Re: Spam 03 - [BRIDGES-L] James Bridges-1813-TN > >Where would I look for information on his parent? I find nothing on Bridges > >being a German name. Has anyone else run across any Bridges that came from > >Germany? Was there a German settlement in Tennessee at that time > >frame---1810-1820?

>Where would I look for information on his parent? I find nothing on Bridges >being a German name. Has anyone else run across any Bridges that came from >Germany? Was there a German settlement in Tennessee at that time >frame---1810-1820? I was running down some info from Virginia in the 1700's and found where a certain fellow named "van der Bruck" put language in the deed indicating he was now to be referred to as "Bridges." Wish I'd have hung onto it...seems like it was in Prince William county, does that sound right to anyone familiar with VA? Seems like if van der Bruck could be translated into Bridges then the German equivalent could be also. Might want to find the German equivalent and see if it pops up anywhere in the location you think he might have come from/through.

In a message dated 11/12/2003 7:15:20 PM Pacific Standard Time, BLGT@aol.com writes: > Where would I look for information on his parent? I find nothing on Bridges being a German name. Has anyone else run across any Bridges that came from Germany? Was there a German settlement in Tennessee at that time frame---1810-1820? < Barbara, I can't answer about the German settlement, however, a couple of our Bridges participants in our DNA project have numbers which place them in the Haplogroup that indicates that they were German. In both cases, the lines were in America too early for the census to report that they were from Germany, however. Do you have a living male in your Bridges line who could be tested in our DNA project? Julia French Wood

My brick wall has another stumbling block. I found him in the 1900 census living with his oldest daughter and it states that he was born in Tennessee in May, 1813. It also shows that his father was born in Germany and his mother born in North Carolina. Where would I look for information on his parent? I find nothing on Bridges being a German name. Has anyone else run across any Bridges that came from Germany? Was there a German settlement in Tennessee at that time frame---1810-1820? All help appreciated. Barbara blgt@aol.com

Thanks Graham, wow that was an old post, I get mixed up with my Bridges, are you my cousin also...it's late, so over look me if I sound odd.... hugs, Gay ----- Original Message ----- From: "graham bridges" <putter@gvtc.com> To: <BRIDGES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 4:37 PM Subject: Re: [BRIDGES-L] DNA & North Carolina Bridges > Hey Gay > > I am told that there is a part of SC and NC that were once in GA. You might > take a look at the possibility that both are correct. > > Graham Bridges > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paula" <pkeith@alltel.net> > To: <BRIDGES-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 8:14 PM > Subject: Re: [BRIDGES-L] DNA & North Carolina Bridges > > > > Hi Gay, > > The 1850 census does list Wilson as being born in North Carolina, however, > > the 1860 Mortality Schedule lists him as being born in South Carolina. We > > really need some other records before we can determine from whence he came > > since these are the only two we have right now and they differ. > > Paula > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Gay Botsford" <gbot@seark.net> > > > Charles and others that are related to GA Bridges, I found on the 1850 > > census that Wilson Bridges was born in NC not SC as was believed. > > > His father John, is thought to be born in NC also...so they must have > > moved from NC straight to Franklin Co GA?? > > > > > >

Hey Gay I am told that there is a part of SC and NC that were once in GA. You might take a look at the possibility that both are correct. Graham Bridges ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paula" <pkeith@alltel.net> To: <BRIDGES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 8:14 PM Subject: Re: [BRIDGES-L] DNA & North Carolina Bridges > Hi Gay, > The 1850 census does list Wilson as being born in North Carolina, however, > the 1860 Mortality Schedule lists him as being born in South Carolina. We > really need some other records before we can determine from whence he came > since these are the only two we have right now and they differ. > Paula > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gay Botsford" <gbot@seark.net> > > Charles and others that are related to GA Bridges, I found on the 1850 > census that Wilson Bridges was born in NC not SC as was believed. > > His father John, is thought to be born in NC also...so they must have > moved from NC straight to Franklin Co GA?? > >

Hello Everyone, Don't want to ramble about the same thing, but Wanda, I have also had a "gut" feeling about William C. Bridges (b.Oct. 22, 1829) and his connection with Allen Jones Bridges. My William C., brother of Calvin JONES Bridges along with their father Isaac, were in Madison County GA during the same time as Allen Jones.William also had a son named James Wesley. William Crawford is buried (with his wife and some of his children) at the Moriah Primitive Baptist Church in Madison (formerly Oglethorpe) county. Concerning Isaac Bridges (1801, NC-1864,Madison Co. GA) , these records were found at the Madison County Courthouse Special meeting of Inferior Court Aug. 1, 1864 Ordered that the sum of $26.00 be paid into the hand of Robert Williams for holding an inquest over the body of Isaac Bridges Special meeting of Inferior Court Nov. 7, 1864 Robert Yerbey, Alfred Seagraves (Isaac's brother-in-law), and James David ordered that you receive $5.00 from Robert Williams , it being left in his hands after paying the burial expenses of Isaac Bridges Does anyone out there have a line to Yerbey, David, or Williams? Thanks, Wesley Gann

Opps! Just shows you can't work from memory or lack thereof. Thanks Keith for the update on Franklin county. Anne

Thank you everyone. I do believe I will stick with Wilkes Co. Ga as the birthplace for William C. and his brother Flemmon and my reasoning for this is the statement Allen Jones Bridges made in his Rev War papers that he had lived in Wilkes, Oglethrope and Jackson Co. Ga. I just "feel" this is correct. I appreciate everyone's help. William Crawford Bridges obit only states he was born in Georgia and I don't have one for Flemmon Bridges so I can't compare the two. Wanda

I have a great-uncle with this name who was born in VA in 1876. Hi father was Murdock and his grandfather Amos, both of whom were born in NC. While I know that this isn't your relative, the same names are interesting and may indicate a family connection. -----Original Message----- From: Adrianne Yoder [mailto:cycberlib@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 5:47 PM To: BRIDGES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [BRIDGES-L] James Wesley Bridges Looking for information on my great grandfather James Wesley Bridges born in Alabama about 1852, left when about 20 years old, died about 1932 in Marlboro--Dillon County area, buried in Little Rock Baptist Cemetery (Huggins Cemetery) South Carolina. Son Joseph, daughters Anna, Lena and more. Was in the Civil War. Would really like to find out where in Alabama he was born and about his parents, siblings, etc. Adrianne in Idaho --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard

List, Just a quick supplement to what Anne said, in case someone has Bridges from Franklin Co. GA and was wanting to visit for research. Franklin co. does still exist, it is just very small compared to its original size. There is a census map from 1790 that gives a good example of it's original size. However, prior to ca.1788, Franklin Co GA actually included land the NW corner of SC, it bordered NC, and extends SW past Athens. I can't recall the name of the case, but ca 1788, it changed the state borders and gave the people with title to the land in GA a year to reregister their deeds into the state of SC without penalty. At that time, Walton Co GA existed North of Franklin co. in what is now NC. (Look for information on the Walton County War ca 1809). The link below gives a lot of this information, but check in SC an NC for separate viewpoints. It gets interesting, especially for those who had kinfolk living near the borders. "Please don't take my word on it; look for the truth, it never lies". Keith Bailey ----- Original Message ----- From: <seansgann@aol.com> > Wanda, you might try the following website: > http://roadsidegeorgia.com/city/atlanta01.html > > It's a synopsis of the history of Atlanta and the area and can tell you > better than I can, but I believe it was still Creek Territory in 1800. Fort > Peachtree was built about 1812-15 but otherwise there was no settlement at all > (though there may have been scattered settlers) until sometime between 1835 and > 1840 when the railroad came. At that time I think it was called "Terminus" which > became Marthasville and then Atlanta about 1845. The closest county was > probably DeKalb. > > Your best bet might be to go to google and search for the website "Historical > Atlas of Georgia Counties". Each county has a short history and links to old > maps which I've found very helpful. Don't forget Franklin and Campbell > counties, neither of which exist now. > > I don't live in the area now but I know the state pretty well so if I can > help, let me know. > > Anne Bridges Nabors > >

Wanda, you might try the following website: http://roadsidegeorgia.com/city/atlanta01.html It's a synopsis of the history of Atlanta and the area and can tell you better than I can, but I believe it was still Creek Territory in 1800. Fort Peachtree was built about 1812-15 but otherwise there was no settlement at all (though there may have been scattered settlers) until sometime between 1835 and 1840 when the railroad came. At that time I think it was called "Terminus" which became Marthasville and then Atlanta about 1845. The closest county was probably DeKalb. Your best bet might be to go to google and search for the website "Historical Atlas of Georgia Counties". Each county has a short history and links to old maps which I've found very helpful. Don't forget Franklin and Campbell counties, neither of which exist now. I don't live in the area now but I know the state pretty well so if I can help, let me know. Anne Bridges Nabors

At 10:37 PM 11/04/2003 EST, you wrote: >Hello list, >It is nice to know I have so many new cousins. I found some of my "closer" >cousins show that my William Crawford Bridges was born in Atlanta, Ga in 1815 >instead of Wilkes Co. Ga. (this is what I have.) Perhaps one of you could >check Atlanta and see if you can find anything that bears the slightest reference >to Allen Jones Bridges around 1800. I certainly would appreciate it. I do >know they left Ga in 1819 and went to Wilson Co. Tenn. >Also according to Allen Jones Bridges Rev. War Pension records, he was living >in Roan Co. NC and went into the service with his father at that time. Do we >know if James (the spy) also enlisted in Roan Co ? Any ideas? > >Wanda > Hi Wanda, I am sorry to say that William Crawford Bridges could not have been born in Atlanta in 1815. The first white settler in the area that was to eventually become Atlanta (a chap named Hardy Ivy) came in 1833. It was several years before he was joined by others. What was to be Atlanta was known by earlier names, among them White Hall in 1837 (unofficial), Terminus in 1838, Marthasville in 1843, and, finally, in 1847, Atlanta was chartered, some 30 plus years after William Crawford Bridges' birth. Best regards, Bob Johnston

Wanda, In 1815, I believe Atlanta would have still been an Indian trading post know as Fort Peach Tree or one of the subsequent names. When the area was finally annexed by the federal government, it was initially part of Henry co. then DeKalb co. before it finally became part of Fulton Co. I would suggest you, or one of the others researching his line, look in Military records to see if Allen Jones Bridges was still serving or recommissioned during the war of 1812 and/or the Indian wars that continued afterwards. If your William Crawford Bridges was born in Atlanta, it was probably within or close to the fort near Peach Tree street.. Keith Bailey ----- Original Message ----- From: <WANABOBb@aol.com> > Hello list, > It is nice to know I have so many new cousins. I found some of my "closer" > cousins show that my William Crawford Bridges was born in Atlanta, Ga in 1815 > instead of Wilkes Co. Ga. (this is what I have.) Perhaps one of you could > check Atlanta and see if you can find anything that bears the slightest reference > to Allen Jones Bridges around 1800. I certainly would appreciate it. I do > know they left Ga in 1819 and went to Wilson Co. Tenn. > Also according to Allen Jones Bridges Rev. War Pension records, he was living > in Roan Co. NC and went into the service with his father at that time. Do we > know if James (the spy) also enlisted in Roan Co ? Any ideas? > > Wanda > >