This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: SFarmer9302 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.researchresources.brick-20-walls/423.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Since your Frank died before 1913, you probably can't a death certificate copy from the state. Have you tried contacting the other researchers to find out their source for the death date? It could be that they have a family bible or other personal knowledge. Good luck. Sandra Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.