This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: fiddlerslass Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.researchresources.brick-20-walls/446.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, If you check Castle Garden arrivals http://www.castlegarden.org/ There was a Heinrich SANDER, age 34 tailor Maria SANDER 28 and Richard 9mths all arrived on 8 July 1876 aboard the " Oder" from Bremen. All born Germany. If it is the right family, then probably child Richard died before the twins were born. I am not having much luck finding them in the 1880 census. Good luck, Helen Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.