This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ElizabethSpragg1954 Surnames: Summers, Price, Stunston, McCLean Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.researchresources.brick-20-walls/159/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am searching for the Summers family that appears in Weakley Co Tennessee (dist 1) between 1825 and 1840. They would be: Richard Summers, Letty Summers Price, Burnetta Summers Stunston, Sally Summers Stunston, Priscilla Summers, James Brice Summers, Franklin Summers. I do not know how these people are related to each other as I can't find them....They were in the middle of the McClain-Stunston-Price Murder story and I can track them from tennessee into Illinois...I can't find them back past Weakley. They could have come from Graves CO, KY or been in the Mayfield Tenn area...I just am lost as to how to find them. I have no birth date/location to ask the county clerks for a search and would appreciate any suggestions as to the next step...Thanks for being so patient with this long story. Liz Summers Spragg Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dklart Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.researchresources.brick-20-walls/158.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: They didn't disappear after 1930. You have to get more creative as the 1930 census is the last one published until 2012 when we'll see the 1940. The records (below, all from Ancestry.com databases) are for the family you're researching, correct? The records differ in birth places you note in your post. >Betty was born abt 1884 in Russia and Frank was born abt 1881 in Michigan<. These records have Betty b, NY and Frank b. Indiana. Betty was the mother of 4 children, 3 by her 1st marriage and 1 by her 2nd marriage. You didn't mention the daughter, Isabelle (b 1920) of Frank and Betty (who were most likely married in 1918, I would venture in Flint). Frank's mother, Isabelle, died in 1934 in Flint. All these details of others helps find info on the principles. Isabelle (the daughter) is your direct ancestor, correct? I would guess she had the closest connection with her parents, being the only female daughter of Betty, the only child of Frank and the youngest. Where was she living in 1950? You may not have access to the records, but you did say you searched city directories. These are from Ancestry.com databases. Polk's Flint (Genesee County, Mich.) City Directory Frank C (Betty S) PIERCE 1939, 1941, "clk (indicating he is a clerk) h213 Page (home address is 213 Page St, Flint) 1942 Frank was the head stockman for Kresge's, same addr. 1945 he was the elevator man @ Kresge's. 1946, same address and position @ Kresge's. 1947 same postion @ Kresge's, new address: 413 11th Ave. 1949, Frank is listed alone, same address as 1947. My guess would be that Betty passed away in Flint btw 1947-49. There is a death record listing for a Betty S Pierce, d 21 Nov 1950. http://www.co.genesee.mi.us/vitalrec/SimpleQuery.asp. The 1950 Directory stops @ the letter J. My guess would be that Frank passed in Flint after 1950, considering his age and the passing of wife there, but I would also be looking where the daughter, Isabelle (Pierce) Hinds was between 1950-60. I would venture there would be obits for both of these individuals. http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mifgs/cemindex/cemindex.html. I would also get one for the mother, Isabelle Pierce. There's a link to the obit request application in the page. You have enough info to make a search possible. You can request death certs: http://www.co.genesee.mi.us/clerk/genealogy.htm. Or check out RAOGK and see if there's a volunteer in the area that might give you a hand with records you won't find on the internet. ========================================================= 1930 United States Federal Census Name: Frank C Pierce Home in 1930: Flint, Genesee, Michigan Age: 47 Estimated birth year: abt 1883 Birthplace: Indiana Relation to Head of House: Head Mother's Name: Isabelle Pierce Spouse's name: Betty S Pierce Household Members: Name Age Frank C Pierce 47 Betty S Pierce 44 (b New York) Isabelle Pierce 9 (b Michigan) Isabelle Pierce 78 (b Indiana) Gerald Greenlick 22 (step-son, b New Jersey) ======================================================= 1920 United States Federal Census Name: Betty S Greenlick Home in 1920: Flint Ward 1, Genesee, Michigan Age: 34 Estimated birth year: abt 1886 Birthplace: New York Relation to Head of House: Self (Head) Father's Birth Place: Russia Mother's Birth Place: Russia Marital Status: Widowed Household Members: Name Age Betty S Greenlick 34 Emanuel Greenlick 13 Gerald Greenlick 12 Alexander L Greenlick 9 ========================================================== 1900 United States Federal Census Name: Francis Pierce Home in 1900: Ward, Randolph, Indiana Age: 17 Birth Date: Feb 1883 Birthplace: Indiana Race: White Gender: Male Relationship to Head of House: Son Father's Name: Daniel M Pierce Father's Birthplace: Indiana Mother's Name: Isabel Pierce Mother's Birthplace: Indiana Marital Status: Single Household Members: Name Age Daniel M Pierce 49 Isabel Pierce 47 Francis Pierce 17 ======================================================== World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 Name: Frank Pierce City: Flint County: Genesee State: Michigan Birth Date: 16 Feb 1883 ======================================================= This was, by definition, not a brick wall. All resources are not on the internet and many on the internet are not free. That's why others' like to know what resources you're using. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: chuck3482 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.researchresources.brick-20-walls/158.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you for the lead. I will be sure to check it out. The Ida you mentioned may be her mother. I know that her father was Albert and I think I have her mother as Sarah, but that info could be mistaken. Thanks again for the assist! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sandraf93 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.researchresources.brick-20-walls/158.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: There is also a listing for the death of Betty S. Pierce in Genesee Co. She died 11/21/1950. This from the Genesee County Clerk Public Web Access. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: chuck3482 Surnames: Pierce, Greenglick, Hecker Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.researchresources.brick-20-walls/158/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am looking for my gggrandparents Frank C and Betty S Pierce. Betty was born abt 1884 in Russia and Frank was born abt 1881 in Michigan. I have them in the 1930 census records in Genesee County, Mi, but they disappear after that. I have looked through all of Michigan's state sites, the SSDI, Immigration Records, LDS site, etc and still cannot find them. Betty's maiden name was Hecker and she was previously married to Max Greenglick and they lived in N.J. He died very early in life and she moved, with the three children, to Michigan. I cannot get any more specific as I don't know any more. If you have any questions, please ask or see my tree. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dklart Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.researchresources.brick-20-walls/157.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: It helps if you post dates (approx birth years) of the individuals you're searching for. What sources are you using to research? You can find US census and other selected databases by the state, on familysearch.org, in the pilot program. This is a free site. If you know where they were in Michigan in 1930, you might want to share that detail. If you know the county in Michigan, posting on the locality board is preferable than than posting on the brick wall board. A brick wall is when you've exhausted all research possibilities. In order for others to understand your brick wall, you need to post everything you know in minute detail and where you've already searched. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: chuck3482 Surnames: Pierce, Hecker, Greenglick/Greenlick Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.researchresources.brick-20-walls/157/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am looking for my grandmother's paternal grandparents. Rebecca/Betty S. (Hecker, Greenglick) Pierce and Frank C. Pierce. They are recorded as being in Michigan in the 1930 census, but they fall off the map after that. Rebecca married Max Greenglick in N.J. and had three children. After Max died, she moved to Michigan sometime between 1910 and 1920. She also remarried to Frank in that same time frame. I would like to know where they are burried and when they died as this would clear up a huge mystery in our family history. Thanks for your help! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: chuck3482 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.researchresources.brick-20-walls/155.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you very much! That info led me to the connection that I was missing. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: chuck3482 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.researchresources.brick-20-walls/155.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank You very much for the info. That is the link that I have been looking for! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Laura_Given Surnames: Given, Givens Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.researchresources.brick-20-walls/156/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Looking for any info for her past. In several census records she lists her birth as Illinois, but my Dad told me that she corresponded with her family in Missouri, so they thought she was from there. He also said she was a distant cousin..not sure if it was a "Given" or "Givens", as there were many typos in records back then. I also was not able to find her death certificate from my paid online service. Kinda too far to Philly to get the actual record unless I send for it. Any thoughts outside of paying or going there? Margaret Jane Given(s) Birth - Feb 1868 Death - 17 Jan 1946 - Philadelphia I found her marriage info to James A Given, but when I looked at the doc, I did not see any parental info, and they listed her as Maggie vs Margaret. Groom's Name: James A Givens Bride's Name: Maggie Givens Marriage License Year: 1891 License Number: 46877 Image Number: 00129 Digital Folder Number: 4140427 Collection: Pennsylvania, Philadelphia Marriage Indexes, 1885-1951 Any help / suggestions would be appreciated. Best, Jim Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sandraf93 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.researchresources.brick-20-walls/155.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: >From pilot.familysearch.org Katherine Mcisaac b. 1899 married 28 Dec 1920 in Rockwood, Monroe, Michigan Ben Bondy. Katherine's parents are listed as Mack Mcisaac and Belle Fay Also, Archie Mcisaac b. 1893 married 31 Aug 1921 in Monroe, Michigan to Rachel Gildersleeve. Parents of Archie are Malcolm McIsaac and Belle Fay. Hector Mcisacc b 1871 Ontario married 28 May 1908 Hattie Middlemiss. Hector's parents Archie Mcisaac and SArah Mceachin Malcom Mcisaac b 1865 in Canada m 1 Jun 1992 Bell Fay. Malcom's parents Archibald Mcisaac and Sarah Mceachen. Mary L. Mcisaac b 1866 in Canada m 21 Feb 1900 John P. Mcintosh. Daughter of Donald Mcisaac and Sarah Mceachen There is at least one more, so you I would recommend going to pilot.familysearch.org for the rest, but at least you can see the connections between the three families. Good Luck, Sandra Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Bieliauskaite Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.researchresources.brick-20-walls/155.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: At this site http://seekingmichigan.org/ There is a death record of Mc Isaac died 5/11/1905, an infant of Malcolm McIsaac b. Canada, mother is Belle Fay b. Sanilac county. The infant was buried in Lakeside cemetery. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: chuck3482 Surnames: McIssac, Fay, McEachin Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.researchresources.brick-20-walls/155/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am looking to find information on the McIssac family of Port Huron, Mi. This family shares a cemetery plot in Lakeside Cemetery in Port Huron, Mi. They are connected in some way to the Fay family or the McEachin of the same area. If you have any information, I could use the help in uncovering the connection between these two families. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hello Cousins, I am still trying to find information on my great, great, great grandmother Sarah C. FISHER. I even hired Ancestor Seekers for a pretty penny and they weren't able to find anything on her. This is what I have: According to censuses --- she was born around 1822 and one census states she was born in Cayuga County, NY. She married David S. MOREHOUSE in June of 1841 in Gorham, Ontario County, NY. Sarah shows up on the 1875 Naples, Ontario County, NY, census, but not in 1880. David married Mary Slayton in 1877, so I'm assuming Sarah died between 1875 and 1877. I would very much like her birth and death dates and places and then who her parents were. If anyone out there knows anything about my Sarah and would be willing to share, I'd love to hear from you. TIA. Sue Schroeder Los Lunas, NM

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: chatterchit Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.researchresources.brick-20-walls/137.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I don't know, but there is a rootsweb mailing list that should be able to help: LookinginOntario. A mailing list for those conducting adoption searches in Ontario, Canada. You can subscribe from http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lookinginontario/ or by sending the word subscribe to [email protected] Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jb_barrie108 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.researchresources.brick-20-walls/137.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Just saw on a 1911 census that it lists her as adopted and after 1901. Do you know where Ontario would keep those records??? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: LHSwisher Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.researchresources.brick-20-walls/153.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: OK, sorry about that. The 1870 shows a William Stephens, age 22, and Eliza Stephens, age 18, in Beat 3 in Mobile Co., AL. The census was taken in July and there is a notation that they married in Feb of that year. That Eliza seems to be the only white Eliza of the probable age, although there is no way to know for sure. It's possible this is your couple, with your William Robert being born after the census. FamilySearch Record Search lists an Eliza Hodge m. William Stevens on 29 July 1872 in Chambers, AL. Dates don't entirely match but cannot definitively be ruled out, either. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: eunicehawkins57 Surnames: prichard, pritchard Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.researchresources.brick-20-walls/154/mb.ashx Message Board Post: born UK c 1695?? published a book in 1730 entitled Freemasonry Deconstructed. Where was he born/did he die? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: designer12281 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.researchresources.brick-20-walls/153.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you so much for the help. He was white and the Hood name was the maiden name of his wife, so that wouldn't have been who raised him. All we know is that we have drawing of a young woman that was said to have been his mother and on the back it said Eliza Stephens. We don't know his fathers name, or Eliza'a maiden name. I spoke with my mother this morning and she said that the April 1946 death date could very well have been him, as she would have been 19 and she said that she knew she was a teenager when he died. Also, she did know that he died in Jefferson County. She also told me that she believes that he is buried at Alliance Baptist Church cemetary in Short Creek AL, as she can remember going to 'decoration' there. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: LHSwisher Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.researchresources.brick-20-walls/153.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: First of all, what race is William, white or black? Knowing that will help us try to narrow down the possibilities. Have you obtained his death certificate? If so, does it show his parents? Some states filed Delayed Birth Certificates, for instance, as proofs to obtain Social Security numbers. Might he have filed such a Delayed Birth? Is there an obituary that might list him? Ancestry's AL Deaths, 1908-1959 don't show a William Robert dying in 1943. There is this one: Name: William R Stephens Death Date: 22 Apr 1946 Death County: Jefferson Volume: 14 Certificate: 6964 Roll: 4 The only Hood family in 1880 in Chatham Co. GA did not have a 10-year-old living with them. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.