Likely Geography and possible relation. Ulrich Zug lived in Warwick Township (now Penn Township), purchasing 343 acres of land from Michael Bachman in 1743. Michael had several properties, and this appears to be the one he warranted on 10/29/1741, shown in survey A-76-52, and the Penn Township Warrant Map for 345 acres. The Penn Township warrant Map also shows Jacob Ullinger holding a 9/23/1752 warrant for a nearby property that was patented by an Adam Hollinger in 1811. The 1771 Warwick Township tax includes a number of Hollingers including Jacob and Daniel. -----Original Message----- From: Bob Harter Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 4:19 PM To: brethren@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BRE] Connections to 1733 Ship Hope I have a question that has long bothered me. Why is my ancestor, Daniel Hollinger, in the small Ulrich Zug Cemetery? If I remember correctly, he is the only non-Zug there. Any ideas? I have found no family connection. Bob Harter ----- Original Message ----- From: <captainlaser@comcast.net> To: <brethren@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [BRE] Connections to 1733 Ship Hope > Bill, > > > ps Google maps calls the Hershey family plot as 419 Indian Village Road if > you are driving through there. > > > It is about 2 miles as the crow flies from the current White Oak > Congregation Church of the Brethren. > > > My family was Brethren but has Mennonite roots as well. Ulrich Zug was > Mennonite and converted to COB. He is buried outside Penryn and went to > White Oak Congregation. He married into the Bachmann family. Zaugg or Zug > was a Mennonite (or Reformed) name from Trub, Switzerland and the > Fankhauser family still owns a farm and museum of Mennonite history there. > > Other names in the cemetery south of Manheim are Erisman (from Melchior > Erisman)... his daughter married Christian Habacker (Hawbaker or Habbecker > or Habecker) and his grandson Christian Erisman married Catherine > Hostetter. It is not hard to see that these few families intermingled over > the 18th century outside of Manheim, PA. and many COB families are related > to the Mennonites there. > > > Ray Hoff > > > > > From: "Bill Thomas" <wbtst2@atlanticbb.net> > To: brethren@rootsweb.com > Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 1:35:58 PM > Subject: [BRE] Connections to 1733 Ship Hope > > Dwayne Wrightsman recently noted the (then) Mennonite Flory, Stouder and > Longnecker families who came to America on the ship Hope in 1733, and then > settled in what is now Ralpho Township. This got my curiosity going, and > did some research that produced some information that expands on this > subject. I’ll begin with some additional Mennonite families from this > region: > 1.. Another Mennonite family of note on the Hope, which was Michael Witmer > and his son’s Ulrich, Peter and Hans. They also had property in Ralpho > Township. > 2.. A second Mennonite family of note was that of Johannes Long, who lived > in adjacent Manheim Township coming to America about 1722. > 3.. A third notable Mennonite family that lived in both Manheim and Ralpho > Township was the Hershey family, who came to America in 1717. > 4.. Newcomer is another notable Mennonite name from this area, found in > Leacock, Hempfield and Manor Townships. > All of these families are connected to the children of Mennonite Jacob > Good and Elizabeth Gerber, a family with notable German Baptist > connections. Jacob moved his family from Warwick Township to Frederick > County (now Washington County), Maryland about 1767, where he died in 1797 > (I had previously researched this Good family). Jacob and Elizabeths’s > children were as follows: > 1.. Anna Good married Peter Longnecker. Peter was likely the brother (or > cousin) of Rev. Christian Longnecker, who led the White Oak Land > congregation per Morgan Edwards. > 2.. John Good married a Susan ??, and moved to Perry County, OH. His son > Jacob may have lived in Somerset County, PA. > 3.. Elizabeth Good married Joseph Long. Joseph was German Baptist, and > purchased Jacob Good’s property in Frederick County. Joseph’s brother > Isaac has historical significance. Isaac’s barn was used in 1767 for a > revival led by Philip Otterbein and Martin Boehm, the founders of the > United Brethren denomination. > 4.. Barbara Good married Peter Witmer, son of immigrant Ulrich Witmer. > They lived on a farm near Elizabethtown, in Lancaster County. > 5.. Jacob Good married a Mary Bosley, ended up in Cambria County where he > died on his farm that overlooks Johnstown, PA, my home town. > 6.. Mary Good married Christian Hershey. The exact parentage of Christian > is speculative, but he is tied to the Hershey family of this region. A > Christian Hershey lived very close to Jacob Good in Warwick Township > 7.. Catherine Good married Peter Newcomer, who is likely the Peter > Newcomer born in Manor Township. Manor Township was also home to a number > of Witmer’s. > 8.. Christian Good and his wife Barbara moved to Washington County, MD and > are buried on the family farm with his parents. > 9.. Abraham Good owned property adjacent his brother Jacob in Cambria > County. The property was adjacent the Stonycreek River. John Stouder Sr. & > Jr. had warrants for property along the Stonycreek River in what is now > Cambria County, which was near a number of German Baptists who settled in > Cambria County, including Peter Morgan. This was in very close proximity > to the Good properties. The Stouder’s immigrated to Ohio by 1820, where > David Stouder the brother of John Sr. had earlier founded the Obannon > German Baptist church in 1795. > The Hershey family is also of interest. > 1.. A Jacob Hershey & wife were baptized in 1768 by Michael Pfautz and > were part of the White Oak Land Congregation in 1770. This is likely Jacob > married to Anna Newcomer d/o Wolfgang Newcomer of Leacock Township. Jacob > and Anna later became United Brethren. Anna’s brother was United Brethren > Bishop, Christian Newcomer. > 2.. Christian Newcomer was Mennonite (or maybe German Baptist??) in 1776, > where he is on a list of Washington County, MD non-enrollers listed as > “Dunkers & Menonist”. Three Good brothers John, Christian and Abraham are > on the same list. > 3.. Christian Longnecker baptized a John Hershey and Catherine Hershey in > 1776. John is also likely Rev. John B. Hershey, who later became a United > Brethren Minister in Washington County, MD > 4.. Jacob and John Hershey were brothers. One researcher suspects that > John B. Hershey was at the 1767 revival at Isaac Long’s barn. Mennonite > historians believe John B. Hershey was also a Mennonite minister, and > became a United Brethren minister about 1791. > 5.. Jacob, John and Catherine Hershey are likely children of Andrew > Hershey of Hempfield Township. > 6.. Andrew’s son Andrew Jr. is likely the Andrew Hershey in York County, > that some claim is the father of Christian Hershey husband of Mary Good. > I thought I would pass this info on. May also be of some help in > identifying the Stouder’s Dwayne asked about. > > Bill Thomas > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------ Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN ------------------------ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'm curious where you find all the information you've been discussing in the thread Connections to 1733 Ship Hope. I joined the group because I started a family tree on Ancestry.com and found out my father's family were mostly Dunkards, Brethren, and Mennonites. I've seen Find-A-Grave notices that a number of them were buried in Brethren or Mennonite cemeteries, but I haven't put much together yet. My grandparents and maybe great-grandparents lived in Stark County, Ohio; some of the surnames back to the 1700s are Martin, Geis, Koppes, Koontz/Kuntz, Shaeffer/Shafer, Glessner, Lehnert, Becker, Metzler, Means, Horst, and Swartz. Living in California, I don't have access to local resources and wondered if there are any online resources or books to fill in the details of the lives of these people or the communities in general. Thank you, Linda Linda M Wroth lmwroth@me.com Richmond, California