I had faith you would figure it out Dwayne. If my memory serves me correctly some of his family later settled in the greater Lower Miami congregational area in Montgomery county, Ohio. Some of the Page county, Virginia Heistand became members of the GB church of the Northeastern District of Ohio. Check that history book and you will see them in it. Cordially, A. Wayne Webb Historian: German Baptist Brethren Church Past Editor: Brethren Roots Site developer: German Baptist Brethren Books <http://books.brethrenarchives.com> Site developer: German Baptist Brethren Ministers & Congregations <http://mincon.brethrenarchives.com/> Site developer: German Baptist Brethren Almanacs, Annuals & Yearbooks <http://books1.brethrenarchives.com/> Site developer: German Baptist Brethren Offerings <http://offering.brethrenarchives.com/> In other words: Chief Bottle Washer and Cook -----Original Message----- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 10:47:46 -0500 From: "Dwayne Wrightsman" <dwayne55@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [BRE] The Mysterious David Stouder(s) To: <brethren@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <001601cee9f5$b012bb40$103831c0$@net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" After giving it more thought, the argument of a single David Stauder might make more sense if one eliminates the David Stauder who married Mary Hiestand. The Hiestand family of Page County, Virginia, was mostly Mennonite rather than Brethren. The Stauders who lived on the east side of the Monocacy River, across from Creagerstown, and north of Fredericktown, were Brethren and were surrounded by Brethren families. The David Stauder who was a non-enroller, along with the John Stouder, also a non-enroller, April 11, 1776, may have been the Elder David Stauder who founded the Stonelick Brethren Church in Clermont County, Ohio, in 1795. He may have died in Ohio shortly thereafter. After John Stouder's death in 1807, his widow Sarah (Brown) Stouder and her children and her grandchildren moved to Clermont County, Ohio, and made their home there. I believe that the David Stouder who founded the Stonelick Brethren Church was truly a Stouder, and not a "Stoner" as others have suggested. Dwayne Wrightsman