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    1. Re: [BRE] travel to southern Ohio in early 1800's
    2. Merle Rummel
    3. The Locust Grove Cemetery is in the northern part of Adams Co. The Camp Woodland Altars, where I lived for a while with my parents (got sick - had to quit preaching in Maryland), is just north of Locust Grove. I did not really get to know the families there, I taught at Sinking Spring - which is north yet, in Highland Co. Camp Woodland Altars is about one and a quarter square miles of land, and reaches up to the county line, on the east side of OH41 (Zane Trace) The Dunkard Ridge Church (original church) is west of Sinking Spring, the Strait Creek Church (later) is still in Highland Co, on the Trace, but south of Sinking Spring. Sinking Spring and Locust Grove are on the Zane Trace, Locust Grove is where that one old Mound Indian Trail and the Zane Trace cross - about a mile east of the Serpent Mound (National Park). I'm sure you have heard of it - that long snakey dirt mound 5-6 feet high couple hundred feet long - and the man and woman found in the "egg" in the mouth of the serpent - she had a large bib - made of woven small shells. As is often in these mounds - the skeletons are huge - the men over 7 feet, the women over 6 feet. I forget whether these had the same disfeature some around here do, in many of the Adena mounds - a double row of teeth, top and bottom. (My comment is - I'm sure glad none of them has tried to bite me!) - and I'm getting too started - I've done considerable study of the Mound Indians -and all their relics in that area - was preparing to teach an Elderhostel Course on them. I might add - the Serpent Mound is located on a ridge at the center of an identified "fault" - either a meteor strike, or possible volcano cone that never erupted. Locust Grove and Camp Woodland Altars are a mile from Serpent Mound - and on the east edge of the circular rim ridge of that "fault" (about 2-3 miles in diameter - there is also an earthquake fault going north from there). The state did a drilling, and found unusual returns - several locations held a barrel of oil, there was a spot of gold (a bucket?), another of diamonds, other places held other unusual minerals. And while I am at it - coming down the Zane Trace from Sinking Spring - there is one stretch where a stage coach threw off a treasure chest - being chased by robbers. The thing is - this is iron ore country, and a metal detector goes crazy - no one has ever found the treasure - it slid down the steep hillside to the creekbed below, bring trash (dirt/rocks) down over it - where ever it was in that half mile or so - it can't be found - and that is now private land. I'm suspecting these major migration roads were what brought your families into that area - now - did they stop at Portsmouth (mouth of the Scioto River) and come across on the Mound Indian trail (OH73), or did they go on down to Limestone (now Maysville) and come up the Zane Trace (OH41)? The famous Brethren woman preacher (Sarah Majors) and her husband - stopped at Portsmouth (they lived there for a while - was there an early Brethren Church there? - probably! - I checked property records of the period - could find nothing on them) - before moving up into Highland Co (Fall Creek Church - north farther, off the Zane Trace - just off the Kanawha Trace as it headed northwest from Bournesville, toward Greenfield OH and Wilmington). He was the ordained Preacher - so he would open the service, and then turn it over to her. She preached "Fire and Brimstone"! and had the people shaking! He didn't! Now - did they come to Locust Grove? and go north on the Zane Trace? - or did they follow the trail up the Scioto River (US23), to Chillicothe (First State Capitol) and come west on the Zane Trace/Kanawha Trace (US 50)? The first and main Brethren settlement was here at Dunkard Ridge, just west of Sinking Spring, off the Zane Trace, north of the Serpent Mound. There are really no indications of Brethren around Chililcothe. (The New Vienna Brethren Settlement, and its Brethren College, was west on the Kanawha Trace, clear across Highland Co. I suspect most of those who settled there, came through the Dunkard Ridge area, or at least Fall Creek.) enough of early Southern Ohio Merle ---------------------------------------- Thanks Merle, I really appreciate you checking out your material for the possibility of any of my ancestors. Someday I hope to find out more about them. I realized later that John's guardian that came to the southern Ohio area with him was Phillip Zink. There is a record of him (Zink) dying in a fire in a barn in Adams Co., Ohio. But John was also connected to John Rhodes/Rodes and there were a number of the Rhodes family members who came to Ohio within this group. Good luck in your search too. Christine Welch Long From: Merle Rummel [mailto:cliff@nwwnet.net] Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 1:23 PM To: Christine Subject: re: travel to southern Ohio in early 1800's I guess I'm not much help - I do not have your John Auckerman - even connected to the Ockerman family in southern Ohio - the Ockermans came up from Kentucky - nor do I have your John Rhodes - just the Rhoads family of western Kentucky nor any Welch family [- I think I remember the Welch name, when I was teaching school there at Sinking Spring OH - yes, I've been to the Locust Grove Cemetery (lived a couple miles north - at our Southern Ohio Brethren, Camp Woodland Altars - back when we first started it).] I do have an Emanuel and a Peter Zink - both from Washington Co IN - Emanuel moved to Edgar Co IL - sometime about 1850-1860 (they married sisters - preacher Philburd Wright's daughters). Both were part of the Blue River Baptist Association movement (Philburd Wright was the leader of the Association movement) - that led these southern Indiana churches into the Church of Christ. The Blue River Church seems to have originally been Brethren, at least several of the families were, but were mostly from the Carolinas. Some of these famlies did stop temporarily in southern Ohio. Merle ************************* I have spent many years trying to find out where my Welches and Auckerman's were, before they ended up in southern Ohio, mainly Adams and Highland counties. I know now that the Auckerman's, for certain, were in Shenandoah and Frederick Cts. Of Va. in the Shenandoah Valley. I suspect that my Welches were too. I have John Auckerman 1786-1874 who was reportedly born in Pa. in all of the census for him. I also have John Welch 1786-1861 who was reportedly born in Pa in one census and Md in another before he died. John Auckerman first shows up in Highland Co,Ohio in 1811. He was the ward of a John Rhodes when his mother died in 1790 back in Va. (Frederick Co). He traveled with this man and the Zink/Zincks and supposedly many others to Ohio. He married Annie Dorothea Shaver in 1810 in Frederick Co., Va with a Lutheran minister presiding. Lutheran may have been her denomination but I am not certain. I have wondered if these families were German Baptist?? John's daughter, Juliana, married William A Welch in Ironton in 1846. John's family migrated to Lawrence County in the 1830"s. John died in Hanging Rock, Lawrence Co., Ohio. John Welch first shows up (that I know of) in Ohio in the 1820 census in northern Adams Co. and is in Highland the next 2 census and then goes back to northern Adams by 1850. He is buried there with his wife, Laura, in the Locust Grove Cemetery. All I know is that his wife's name is Laura and she was considerably younger than him and may have been a second wife. I know very little about this man other than a distant cousin, whom I've never met, stated a number of years ago that her great aunt told her the Welches came from Woodstock County, Va.. There is only a town by that name and it's in Shenandoah Co. John's son, William A. Welch, whose Civil War records state he was born in Marble Furnace, Adams Co., Ohio, married Juliana Auckerman in 1846 in Lawrence Co., Ohio I suspect that both of these 2 John's were following the iron ore furnace trade that was going on in Adams Co and possibly Highland. Do any of these names appear anywhere in your material? Mostly everything I have on these two men leads to dead-ends and I'm not sure why. I have not seen any church records for either of them and don't know where I might find such as I don't know what church either was affiliated with. There has never been any reference to church membership passed down within the family. These 2 men would be my ggggrandfathers. Thank you for any light you may be able to shed on this puzzle. Christine Welch in N. Canton, O. Some names in Allegheny Passage came to early Kentucky. George Tarvin, minister, of Hampshire Co VA, came to Limestone (now Maysville KY) before 1800. Another name that I found in Allegheny Passage was that of Crayfelt (which is listed in Kentucky as Craycraft). These families moved west along the Ohio River, as far as Campbell Co (Tarvin children were earliest members at the 12 Mile Baptist Church [Ohio River, southern Campbell Co] - I did not find any come as far as Newport-Covington KY). Some members of these families crossed the Ohio River into Southern Ohio - into Adams, Brown, Clermont and Scioto Cos - many ending up in Highland Co (Dunker Ridge [Sinking Spring - on the Zane Trace - OH41] or New Vienna). Those coming to Portsmouth (Scioto River - Scioto Co) were often from Virginia - but I have not traced all of them. The Portsmouth area was a major Mound Indian Center. Very old Mound Indian Roads go north from there (near 2000 years) - some up the Scioto River (US23) to Mound City (Chillicothe OH) and on (OH159-OH37) to the Mound Builders Memorial (at Newark OH), one especially, going northwest (OH73) to the Serpent Mound Memorial (Adams Co - just south of Dunker Ridge) and on through New Vienna OH to the Fort Ancient Memorial (near Lebanon OH). These were in active use, and the Brethren followed them. There was a large early Brethren Settlement at New Vienna, our very first Brethren College was there (lasted about 2 years, during the Civil War). I have done little research on New Vienna or its families. I know of no Brethren churches remaining there. I could find little on it in the Southern Ohio Histories. I have driven on "College Street" in New Vienna, a remembrance of the college (intentionally - it intersects off OH73 in town - just to please myself). The Kanawha Trace (following the Shawnee Indian WarPath through the Appalachian Mountains from near Franklin Co VA) crossed the Ohio River at Galliipolis OH (1804), (only a few years after Gallipolis was established -a refuge for surviving nobility of the French Revolution). Some Brethren families that came down the Ohio river, stopped there, and most of them came west from there, some to Highland Co, but others to near Dayton OH, and still others, on west into Indiana Territory. Merle C Rummel

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