Sent on behalf of rricabee@aol.com, who has been having trouble getting messages posted: Bill Thomas and Kim: I just read some posts you've made in the past few days and have to respectively disagree with several statements presented as facts. First, the Jacob Good who Bill writes about had a daughter "Anna" who did marry Peter Longnecker, as he correctly noted, but she was not the same Anna Christina Good who married Jacob Huber/Hoover, Kim's ancestor. Neither was Anna Christina a sister of Anna. The will of the Jacob Good who died in Washington Co. MD lists among his children the daughter Anna who married Peter Longenecker but not Mrs. Huber/Hoover. Neither do I believe that the "first" wife of the Jacob Good who died in Washington Co. MD was likely Elizabeth Gerber. The wife listed in his will is Barbara, and even though some claim her as a second wife, which I believe is likely correct as she had children by a prior marriage, and by their dates of birth it is apparent she was not the mother of many of the children of this Jacob Good, even though later she was his wife. I believe it was a different Jacob Good who married Elizabeth Gerber and lived for a time in Washington Co. MD but did not die there. The Elizabeth Gerber who married Jacob Good is claimed by others as moving to Virginia, where he died, and dates and circumstances involving his location lead me to believe this is correct. This error in connecting the Jacob Good who died in 1797 in Washington Co. Maryland with Elizabeth Gerber goes way back in time over 100 years ago, when Mr. Bell placed this in his book on Leitersburg I believe. There were land transactions whereby Michael Miller, step-father of Elizabeth Gerber transferred land to his stepdaughter and her husband, Jacob Good. This was very likely the source Mr. Bell used to make this connection, unless there were intermediate parties. But what they didn't know was that there was likely more than one Jacob Good living in the same area in Washington Co. Maryland, probably at the same time, and I believe the two were first cousins. It seems the one who moved to Virginia was a Brethren elder, and the one who remained in Washington Co. MD was claimed as Mennonite, though most of the children of the latter did join the Brethren church after their marriages. The youngest two sons were Lutheran and Mennonite. The only one who remained Mennonite that I recall was the son who remained in Washington Co. MD after his father's death. Anna Christina Good was not a daughter of the Brethren Jacob Good either as they were born very close in years. Probably 95% or more of the on-line posts on the Jacob Good who died in 1797 in Washington Co. Maryland have errors in them, either as to his parentage, his date of birth, his wive's names, or the names of his children. The latter are easily ascertainable from the will he left, and the names of the children Bill Thomas supplies are all correct there. Except he may not have noted that Kim's Anna Christina (Good) Huber was not among the children listed. Richard James Shuman, Brethren List co-moderator jshuman@telis.org

That is a great post. I wonder if this is the Good family that settled in Wheeling WV? Beverly Railey Robinson Sent from my iPad On Dec 7, 2013, at 12:12 AM, James Shuman <jshuman@telis.org> wrote: > Sent on behalf of rricabee@aol.com, who has been having trouble getting messages posted: > > > Bill Thomas and Kim: > > > I just read some posts you've made in the past few days and have to respectively disagree with several statements presented as facts. First, the Jacob Good who Bill writes about had a daughter "Anna" who did marry Peter Longnecker, as he correctly noted, but she was not the same Anna Christina Good who married Jacob Huber/Hoover, Kim's ancestor. Neither was Anna Christina a sister of Anna. The will of the Jacob Good who died in Washington Co. MD lists among his children the daughter Anna who married Peter Longenecker but not Mrs. Huber/Hoover. Neither do I believe that the "first" wife of the Jacob Good who died in Washington Co. MD was likely Elizabeth Gerber. The wife listed in his will is Barbara, and even though some claim her as a second wife, which I believe is likely correct as she had children by a prior marriage, and by their dates of birth it is apparent she was not the mother of many of the children of this Jacob Good, even though later she was his wife. ! I ! > believe it was a different Jacob Good who married Elizabeth Gerber and lived for a time in Washington Co. MD but did not die there. The Elizabeth Gerber who married Jacob Good is claimed by others as moving to Virginia, where he died, and dates and circumstances involving his location lead me to believe this is correct. > > This error in connecting the Jacob Good who died in 1797 in Washington Co. Maryland with Elizabeth Gerber goes way back in time over 100 years ago, when Mr. Bell placed this in his book on Leitersburg I believe. There were land transactions whereby Michael Miller, step-father of Elizabeth Gerber transferred land to his stepdaughter and her husband, Jacob Good. This was very likely the source Mr. Bell used to make this connection, unless there were intermediate parties. But what they didn't know was that there was likely more than one Jacob Good living in the same area in Washington Co. Maryland, probably at the same time, and I believe the two were first cousins. It seems the one who moved to Virginia was a Brethren elder, and the one who remained in Washington Co. MD was claimed as Mennonite, though most of the children of the latter did join the Brethren church after their marriages. The youngest two sons were Lutheran and Mennonite. The only one who remained Mennonite! t! > hat I recall was the son who remained in Washington Co. MD after his father's death. Anna Christina Good was not a daughter of the Brethren Jacob Good either as they were born very close in years. > > Probably 95% or more of the on-line posts on the Jacob Good who died in 1797 in Washington Co. Maryland have errors in them, either as to his parentage, his date of birth, his wive's names, or the names of his children. The latter are easily ascertainable from the will he left, and the names of the children Bill Thomas supplies are all correct there. Except he may not have noted that Kim's Anna Christina (Good) Huber was not among the children listed. > > > Richard > > > > James Shuman, Brethren List co-moderator > jshuman@telis.org > > > > > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Just a few comments and clarifications on Richard's response below. - Just to clarify, I didn't make the connection between the Jacob Good of 1797, and the Huber's....that was Kim's comments. - My comments related to my sources was confusing. My Gerber connection was from the Gerber genealogical source, not Mr. Bell's early 20th century book. Mr. Bell's book was my source of Jacob's children and spouses. -Mr. Bell's book notes that there were two related Good families in Maryland, which works with Richard's comments on the additional Jacob Good. However, Bell does not provide any details on the 2nd family, other than it was a brother of Jacob. -There was a Jacob Good who lived on Beaver Creek (tributary of Pequea Creek), that lived adjacent a Huber family, but no known connection that I am aware of with the Jacob Good from my email, but that was an area of early Mennonite settlement. -The point of my email was to show the connections between the Good family and those families associated with the ship Hope. It was not intended to be a thorough discussion on Good genealogy. -Richard is correct in pointing out conflicts with mine or anyone else's genealogical information. Trust but verify is a good philosophy to follow in genealogy, to avoid heading down the wrong road. Bill Thomas -----Original Message----- From: James Shuman Sent: Saturday, December 7, 2013 12:12 AM To: "“brethren-rootsweb.com”" Subject: [BRE] Jacob Good/Guth family confusion Sent on behalf of rricabee@aol.com, who has been having trouble getting messages posted: Bill Thomas and Kim: I just read some posts you've made in the past few days and have to respectively disagree with several statements presented as facts. First, the Jacob Good who Bill writes about had a daughter "Anna" who did marry Peter Longnecker, as he correctly noted, but she was not the same Anna Christina Good who married Jacob Huber/Hoover, Kim's ancestor. Neither was Anna Christina a sister of Anna. The will of the Jacob Good who died in Washington Co. MD lists among his children the daughter Anna who married Peter Longenecker but not Mrs. Huber/Hoover. Neither do I believe that the "first" wife of the Jacob Good who died in Washington Co. MD was likely Elizabeth Gerber. The wife listed in his will is Barbara, and even though some claim her as a second wife, which I believe is likely correct as she had children by a prior marriage, and by their dates of birth it is apparent she was not the mother of many of the children of this Jacob Good, even though later she was his wife. I ! believe it was a different Jacob Good who married Elizabeth Gerber and lived for a time in Washington Co. MD but did not die there. The Elizabeth Gerber who married Jacob Good is claimed by others as moving to Virginia, where he died, and dates and circumstances involving his location lead me to believe this is correct. This error in connecting the Jacob Good who died in 1797 in Washington Co. Maryland with Elizabeth Gerber goes way back in time over 100 years ago, when Mr. Bell placed this in his book on Leitersburg I believe. There were land transactions whereby Michael Miller, step-father of Elizabeth Gerber transferred land to his stepdaughter and her husband, Jacob Good. This was very likely the source Mr. Bell used to make this connection, unless there were intermediate parties. But what they didn't know was that there was likely more than one Jacob Good living in the same area in Washington Co. Maryland, probably at the same time, and I believe the two were first cousins. It seems the one who moved to Virginia was a Brethren elder, and the one who remained in Washington Co. MD was claimed as Mennonite, though most of the children of the latter did join the Brethren church after their marriages. The youngest two sons were Lutheran and Mennonite. The only one who remained Mennonite t! hat I recall was the son who remained in Washington Co. MD after his father's death. Anna Christina Good was not a daughter of the Brethren Jacob Good either as they were born very close in years. Probably 95% or more of the on-line posts on the Jacob Good who died in 1797 in Washington Co. Maryland have errors in them, either as to his parentage, his date of birth, his wive's names, or the names of his children. The latter are easily ascertainable from the will he left, and the names of the children Bill Thomas supplies are all correct there. Except he may not have noted that Kim's Anna Christina (Good) Huber was not among the children listed. Richard James Shuman, Brethren List co-moderator jshuman@telis.org ------------------------ Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN ------------------------ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message