This is a old email for 1998 to the Brethren List. Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 23:24:07 -0400 From: "J. M. Freed" <jmfreed@midohio.net> To: BRETHREN@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <003d01bdddfc$f7e7c2a0$33ce33d1@jmfreed.midohio.net> Subject: Conway Springs, KS COB Membership Lists Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ruth asked about membership lists in the Conway Springs (Slate Creek) Church of the Brethren in Sumner County, Kansas. Jan T. provided information from Craik's History of the Church of the Brethren in Kansas. Since the ministerial list provided names of four of my relatives [Daniel Meyers (also spelled Myers) was my g.g.grandfather, William Smith was my great grandfather, and Albert J. Smith and Emanuel Jeston Smith were sons of William and sisters of my grandmother], I started searching my files and DID find a partial membership list of this congregation. It reminds me that I should ALWAYS look at lists twice, because I found the name of my great grandfather, Henry Moyers (Myers,) on the list as well., which I had NOT noticed before. The photocopy of the ten-page membership list that I have includes: "Names of all the members, May 15, 1890", "Names of all received into fellowship after May 15th, 1890" which ends in October 1896; "Names of those who have recommended, and of those disfellowshipped, after May 15, 1890" which ends in December 1896 "Deaths", which includes deaths from Oct. 10, 1890 to April 10, 1897. I do NOT know if the above is all the extant membership lists; the page numbers on these handwritten pages begin with155 and ends perhaps on page 168 (no page # on the "Deaths" page, but the prior page is page 167). The person in Wichita, Kansas who provided me with the photocopies indicated that McPherson College holds the original records. She also submitted some (all?) of the records for publication in the Fellowship of Brethren Genealogists Newsletter, appearing in Vol. 15, #2, Summer 1983. Ruth asked about the families of John Wise, J.J. McMillan and F. C. Walker (Wacker). The May 15, 1890 membership list does not contain any of these family names. In other lists are included the following names and comments: July 13, 1890, David Wise recd by letter Feb. 14th, 1891, Daniel Wise reclaimed Feb 18th, 1891, Olivia Wise, (Daniels wife) reclaimed Nov. 15th, 1891, Letter given to Permelia McMillen Nov. 9, 1895, Elder John and sister Nancy Wise received by letter [Note: ordinarily, at this time, the term "sister" would not indicate a sibling, but the wife of Elder John Wise, and probably does mean "wife" here. The term "Sister" is used infrequently on these lists, except for the lists of deaths.] Nov. 7, 1894, Letter granted to Elder John Wise and wife. Feb. 9, 1895, Letter granted to Daniel Wise & wife. [NOTE: I cannot explain the discrepancy in dates for John Wise and wife; the "received by letter" is definitely within the 1895 dates, and in another section that lists letters given, John Wise is definitely listed under 1894. Perhaps they "came and went" twice, with these lists being incomplete. It's interesting to me to see my grandmother's name and that of her father, Florence and William Smith, as received by letter, and letter granted, both the same day, Nov. 9, 1893. However, this apparent discrepancy may have just been "catching up" on Membership records.] Sorry, Ruth, no mention of the Walker (Wacker) family name on these lists. As I looked through the list, I recognize many family names which are Being studied by individuals on this Brethren Roots Group. These include in Order of first mention (and the list below is NOT inclusive): Arnold, Beckner, Bussard, Eikenberry, Frantz, Fasnacht, Funk, Grove Grove, Garst, Holloway, Landis, Leatherman, Miller, Neher, Nininger, Overholser, Pritchard, Stoner, Seese, Troxel, Ullery, Wolf, Zook, Pontius, Firestone, Pippinger, Ebersole, Wine, Skiles, Frances, Garst, Stanly, Overholt, Cripe If any reader is interested in the given names and dates and actions of the above, please send an email request DIRECTLY TO ME (NOT THIS LIST) at jmfeed@midohio.net , and I'll attempt to respond directly. Photocopy requests should go to a source (e.g., library) which has a copy of the FOBG Newsletter, or if interested in the original handwritten lists to: Brethren Archives at the Miller Library, McPherson College, McPherson, KS 67460. I'd recommend sending a couple of $, and a SASE to the Miller Library to partially cover their expenses. --Jim Freed, Delaware, OH-- jmfreed@midohio.net In a message dated 12/08/13 14:55:36 Pacific Standard Time, raggs@cox.net writes: Elder John was part of a Church of the Brethern in Conway Springs, KS in the early 1900's but that is about all I know. -----Original Message----- From: brethren-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:brethren-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of winter dellenbach Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2013 3:52 PM To: brethren@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BRE] Brethern settling in Illinois and/or Kansas One last thing I meant to include - was there a Brethren colony/ settlement/church established in Sumner Co and when? winter On Dec 8, 2013, at 12:55 PM, Andrea Colley wrote: > I hope I've done this correctly, but I'm trying to find out why my GGG > Grandfather Elder John Wise left the Ten Mile Creek Congregation in > Washington County Pennsylvania and settled in the Mulberry Grove/ > Vandalia area. Later Elder John and his son David Mathias moved to > Sumner County Kansas but I haven't been able to identify any reason > for the move other than homesteading. > > I'm assuming that they travelled the Cumberland Road since it passed > through western PA and ended in Vandalia. > > I am also unable to find where David Mathias' first wife, Martha > Louise is buried and if Elder John had any involvement in the church > in Illinois. I do know that he attended many annual meetings serving > as moderator or reader. > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Andrea Wise Kidd Colley > > > ------------------------ Search the > Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------ Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN ------------------------ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------ Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN ------------------------ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks, that was a trip down memory lane. Parmelia Jane Wise was married to James J McMillan on December 25, 1866, I probably have where they would have been living in 1895 somewhere in my files. After her death in 1901 he was married again more than once, but I only know to whom for one of the marriages. I did meet the granddaughter of that woman in Conway Springs around the time of this earlier email. The granddaughter , Cora Wise King, was living in a home Jame McMillan had built. Ruth On 12/8/2013 10:22 PM, orwahist wrote: > This is a old email for 1998 to the Brethren List. > > > Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 23:24:07 -0400 > From: "J. M. Freed" <jmfreed@midohio.net> > To: BRETHREN@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <003d01bdddfc$f7e7c2a0$33ce33d1@jmfreed.midohio.net> > Subject: Conway Springs, KS COB Membership Lists > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Ruth asked about membership lists in the Conway Springs (Slate Creek) Church > of the Brethren in Sumner County, Kansas. Jan T. provided information from Craik's History of the Church of the Brethren in Kansas. Since the ministerial list provided names of four of my relatives [Daniel Meyers (also spelled Myers) was my g.g.grandfather, William Smith was my great grandfather, and Albert J. Smith and Emanuel Jeston Smith were sons of William and sisters of my grandmother], I started searching my files and DID find a partial membership list of this congregation. It reminds me that I should ALWAYS look at lists twice, because I found the name of my great grandfather, Henry Moyers (Myers,) on the list as well., which I had NOT > noticed before. > > The photocopy of the ten-page membership list that I have includes: > "Names of all the members, May 15, 1890", > "Names of all received into fellowship after May 15th, 1890" which ends in October 1896; > "Names of those who have recommended, and of those disfellowshipped, after May 15, 1890" which ends in December 1896 > "Deaths", which includes deaths from Oct. 10, 1890 to April 10, 1897. > > I do NOT know if the above is all the extant membership lists; the page > numbers on these handwritten pages begin with155 and ends perhaps on page > 168 (no page # on the "Deaths" page, but the prior page is page 167). > > The person in Wichita, Kansas who provided me with the photocopies indicated > that McPherson College holds the original records. She also submitted some (all?) > of the records for publication in the Fellowship of Brethren Genealogists Newsletter, > appearing in Vol. 15, #2, Summer 1983. > > Ruth asked about the families of John Wise, J.J. McMillan and F. C. Walker (Wacker). > The May 15, 1890 membership list does not contain any of these family names. > In other lists are included the following names and comments: > July 13, 1890, David Wise recd by letter > Feb. 14th, 1891, Daniel Wise reclaimed > Feb 18th, 1891, Olivia Wise, (Daniels wife) reclaimed > Nov. 15th, 1891, Letter given to Permelia McMillen > Nov. 9, 1895, Elder John and sister Nancy Wise received by letter > [Note: ordinarily, at this time, the term "sister" would not indicate a sibling, but > the wife of Elder John Wise, and probably does mean "wife" here. > The term "Sister" is used infrequently on these lists, except for the lists of deaths.] > Nov. 7, 1894, Letter granted to Elder John Wise and wife. > Feb. 9, 1895, Letter granted to Daniel Wise & wife. > [NOTE: I cannot explain the discrepancy in dates for John Wise and > wife; the "received by letter" is definitely within the 1895 dates, and in > another section that lists letters given, John Wise is definitely listed under 1894. > Perhaps they "came and went" twice, with these lists being incomplete. It's > interesting to me to see my grandmother's name and that of her father, Florence and > William Smith, as received by letter, and letter granted, both the same day, Nov. 9, > 1893. However, this apparent discrepancy may have just been "catching up" on > Membership records.] > > Sorry, Ruth, no mention of the Walker (Wacker) family name on these lists. > > As I looked through the list, I recognize many family names which are > Being studied by individuals on this Brethren Roots Group. These include in > Order of first mention (and the list below is NOT inclusive): > Arnold, Beckner, Bussard, Eikenberry, Frantz, Fasnacht, Funk, > Grove Grove, Garst, Holloway, Landis, Leatherman, Miller, Neher, > Nininger, Overholser, Pritchard, Stoner, Seese, Troxel, Ullery, Wolf, Zook, Pontius, Firestone, Pippinger, Ebersole, Wine, Skiles, Frances, Garst, Stanly, Overholt, Cripe > > If any reader is interested in the given names and dates and actions > of the above, please send an email request DIRECTLY TO ME (NOT THIS LIST) at > jmfeed@midohio.net , and I'll attempt to respond directly. > > Photocopy requests should go to a source (e.g., library) which has a copy of the FOBG Newsletter, or if interested in the original handwritten lists to: Brethren Archives at the Miller Library, McPherson College, McPherson, KS 67460. > I'd recommend sending a couple of $, and a SASE to the Miller Library > to partially cover their expenses. > > --Jim Freed, Delaware, OH-- > jmfreed@midohio.net > > > In a message dated 12/08/13 14:55:36 Pacific Standard Time, raggs@cox.net writes: > Elder John was part of a Church of the Brethern in Conway Springs, KS in the > early 1900's but that is about all I know. > > -----Original Message----- > From: brethren-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:brethren-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of winter dellenbach > Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2013 3:52 PM > To: brethren@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BRE] Brethern settling in Illinois and/or Kansas > > One last thing I meant to include - was there a Brethren colony/ > settlement/church established in Sumner Co and when? > winter > On Dec 8, 2013, at 12:55 PM, Andrea Colley wrote: > >> I hope I've done this correctly, but I'm trying to find out why my GGG >> Grandfather Elder John Wise left the Ten Mile Creek Congregation in >> Washington County Pennsylvania and settled in the Mulberry Grove/ >> Vandalia area. Later Elder John and his son David Mathias moved to >> Sumner County Kansas but I haven't been able to identify any reason >> for the move other than homesteading. >> >> I'm assuming that they travelled the Cumberland Road since it passed >> through western PA and ended in Vandalia. >> >> I am also unable to find where David Mathias' first wife, Martha >> Louise is buried and if Elder John had any involvement in the church >> in Illinois. I do know that he attended many annual meetings serving >> as moderator or reader. >> >> Any help would be appreciated. >> >> Andrea Wise Kidd Colley >> >> >> ------------------------ Search the >> Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN >> ------------------------ >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------ Search the Archives > at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message