Andrea, As far as I know he did not. He would have been very elderly. The record I found for J J McMillan is dated 1904, Elder John Wise died in 1909. J J McMillan was married to Parmelia Jane Wise. Here is a url to the land records: http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/details/patent/default.aspx?accession=OK1230__.294&docClass=STA&sid=ws5qvf2u.qph#patentDetailsTabIndex=0 I still haven't found my file with my great grandfather. My daughter in law was in Olkahoma City on business and looked them up at the records office while she was close by. I'm not sure but if I remember correctly he left that land to his son Earl McMillan. That family was scattered during the Great Depression. If my memory is correct. Ruth On 12/8/2013 8:14 PM, Andrea Colley wrote: > Thanks Ruth! Elder John didn't join the land rush though, did he? It's > neat that we have the same GGG grandfather. I have been having computer > trouble and lost your address. I'm using my husband's now until my new one > is set up. Hopefully I'll be able to open up the Words to the Wise > newsletters. > > ac > > -----Original Message----- > From: brethren-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:brethren-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Ruth Hoese > Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2013 6:46 PM > To: brethren@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BRE] Brethern settling in Illinois and/or Kansas > > I know for a fact my 3ggrandfather Elder John Wise did farm in KS, and his > son in law my great, great grandfather JJ MCMillian, along with his son in > law my great grandfather Fred Walker, in fact did join the land rush and > have recorded property rights from that land rush. I don't have the dates > on the records as I have filed the scans away on this computer and cannot > find them right this minute. I believe McMillian passed his land on to a > son, but I do not remember which one, although I met one of that sons > descendants some time ago. > > In the Words to the Wise newsletter quite a few years ago I printed this > excerpt from a letter concerning how the farm was doing, I have not located > my transcript of that letter either, but will try to find it and post it. I > find it sweet and charming and keep reminding myself of the beginning of the > letter - Times are good here. > /Times are good here. You wanted to know what I am working at. I am not > working I am going to school. I will complete the business course in about > five weeks, and then I don't know what I will do, but I am going to try to > get a place somewhere....We have had an awful pleasant winter here, we > haven't had enough snow to make a good snow ball. // /He goes on to talk > about the wheat or corn harvest - Excerpt from a letter to Anna Belle > Walker from her cousin John W. Wise of Conway Springs, KS March 4, 1901. > > Ruth Hoese > / > / > Excerpt from a letter to Anna Belle Walker from her cousin John W. Wise of > Conway Springs, KS March 4, 1901 Ruth Hoese > > On 12/8/2013 3:50 PM, winter dellenbach wrote: >> Look at the date. The date of big moves can lead you to the reason or >> to an intelligent conjecture once you look up what was happening in >> the area for just prior and at the time in the place they moved. A RR >> opened? Land opened? Sumner Co. KS is in S. KS and a good place to >> wait for what was then the OK Territory to open to non-Native >> settlement. The OK Land Rush of 1889 for instance. Some of my >> ancestors went to Sumner Co. and then rode in the Land Rush - a good >> launching point. There were a number of years of Grover Cleveland >> making up his mind to open OK (and break yet another treaty with >> Natives) so people assumed it would open up. >> So - go back to dates and go from there. \ Winter On Dec 8, 2013, at >> 12:55 PM, Andrea Colley wrote: >> >>> I hope I've done this correctly, but I'm trying to find out why my >>> GGG Grandfather Elder John Wise left the Ten Mile Creek Congregation >>> in Washington County Pennsylvania and settled in the Mulberry Grove/ >>> Vandalia area. Later Elder John and his son David Mathias moved to >>> Sumner County Kansas but I haven't been able to identify any reason >>> for the move other than homesteading. >>> >>> I'm assuming that they travelled the Cumberland Road since it passed >>> through western PA and ended in Vandalia. >>> >>> I am also unable to find where David Mathias' first wife, Martha >>> Louise is buried and if Elder John had any involvement in the church >>> in Illinois. I do know that he attended many annual meetings serving >>> as moderator or reader. >>> >>> Any help would be appreciated. >>> >>> Andrea Wise Kidd Colley >>> >>> >>> ------------------------ Search the >>> Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN >>> ------------------------ >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com >>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >>> the body of the message >> >> ------------------------ Search the >> Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN >> ------------------------ >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------ Search the Archives > at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message