Ruth, We have considered that possibility, but so far, no evidence points in that direction. This is why I'm digging around the collateral lines and looking at the family's religious affiliation. On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 8:01 AM, Ruth Hoese <ruthjh@gmail.com> wrote: > > Have you looked into the possibility that Shirrow could be French. As in > Shireau or Chireau or variants with an x on the end. Thought of this > because I lived in Cajun Louisiana for many years and they have that > type name variations. > > On 2/13/2014 7:19 AM, Melanie Rice wrote: > > I knew what you meant. :) > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 6:14 AM, <RRRhoads@aol.com> wrote: > > > >> Woops! Make that Western townships. > >> > >> In a message dated 2/13/2014 8:02:03 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > >> mjrice.denver@gmail.com writes: > >> > >> Cousin Roger! Good to hear from you! I hope you're doing well. I wish > >> this family left a trail like T. J. Rhodes did! > >> > >> "My experience is that when a couple in those days were married by a > J.P. > >> it is > >> evidence that the couple was of two different denominations." > >> > >> I had not considered the different faiths angle. I also had no idea > that > >> German was spoken for so long in some areas. Would a relatively > >> assimilated (into the melting pot) family have likely spoken both > >> languages? > >> > >> 1800 found the Sherow's living in a Scot-Irish area of Augusta County, > >> VA. There, they married into the Andrew and Weikle families, in the > >> Scot-Irish Presbyterian church. When they arrived in Miami Valley, OH, > ca > >> 1810, they disbursed and didn't buy land immediately adjacent to the > rest > >> of the family. The Andrew family landed in Montgomery County, and the > >> Sherow family in Miami County: Union & Concorde twps. Once there, most > >> subsequent marriages we find are by JOP, rather than ministers. > >> > >> I and a couple of other Sherow cousins are trying to dig further on this > >> line, and we are trying to establish the original nationality of > "Sherow, > >> Sherrow, Sharow, Shero, Sharo, Shiro." We have never seen it spelled > >> Shearer, Sherrer, ect. - which I believe would be the more German > variant. > >> > >> Once in the Miami Valley, the family married into the Young and Peck > >> families. A local history says Philip Young joined the Brethren late in > >> life. > >> > >> Thank you! > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 4:57 AM, <RRRhoads@aol.com> wrote: > >> > >>> Message: 1 > >>> Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 18:55:31 -0700 > >>> From: Melanie Rice <mjrice.denver@gmail.com> > >>> Subject: [BRE] German Baptist marriage record questions > >>> To: BRETHREN@rootsweb.com > >>> Message-ID: > >>> <CADOsdMC7Bmu5H5V_y2kx6gFpjTbBW3wwvzza8rff4=UGGnwj5g@mail.gmail.com> > >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > >>> > >>> If a couple was married by a German Baptist minister in 1827, > >>> PrebleCounty, OH - *may > >>> I presume that one or both of their families were brethren?* > >>> > >>> During that time period, in relatively newly settled Ohio, would a > German > >>> Baptist minister have married couples who were not part of their > church? > >>> > >>> The specific marriage record is for a Caty Sharow to a Daniel > Brucker, on > >>> May 17, 1827, Preble County, OH. > >>> > >>> Also, if other couples I am researching in the same vicinity and time > >>> period were NOT married by a minister of the gospel, *may I presume > the > >>> couple was not religious?* Would there be legitimate reasons that > church > >>> members would be married by a JOP? > >>> > >>> I am working on a difficult family line that seems to have ties in > Miami, > >>> Montgomery and Preble counties, OH, from about 1810 - 1840+. > >>> > >>> Do I understand correctly that* the designation "German Baptist" is > >>> synonymous with Dunker Brethren in the early 1800s, Ohio?* > >>> > >>> Lastly, *would the German Baptist churches in the Miami Valley have > >>> spoken > >>> ONLY German at that time? Could the churches have been bilingual? > What > >>> about the members?* The family I'm working on (Sherow, etc.), came > from > >>> a > >>> Scot-Irish settlement in Augusta County, VA, and appears to have been > >>> assimilated. My research so far indicates they likely spoke English > by > >>> the > >>> time they arrived in the Miami Valley, about 1810. > >>> > >>> Thank you! > >>> > >>> Melanie Rice > >>> Denver, Colo. > >>> ------------------------------------------- > >>> > >>> Melanie, > >>> Hey, your one of mine, cuzz (through Thomas Jefferson Rhodes)! My > >>> experience is that when a couple in those days were married by a J.P. > it > >>> is > >>> evidence that the couple was of two different denominations. As for > the > >>> spoken > >>> language, I think that German was spoken among most German descendants > >>> until > >>> as late as the 1870s based on German language tombstones in Montgomery > >>> Co. > >>> I know that the Evangelical Lutheran (aka German) churches had German > >>> language preaching until the 1930s. High schools in rural areas (e.g. > >>> Brookville) had German courses that ended with WW I when Germany > started > >>> the war. > >>> When the citizens of Brookville demanded the school stop all German > >>> courses, the school officials refused. Whereupon the citizens stormed > >>> the school > >>> and burned the books. > >>> > >>> Roger Rhoads > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ------------------------ > >>> Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > >>> ------------------------ > >>> > >>> > >>> ------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>> BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >>> > >> > > > > ------------------------ > > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > > ------------------------ > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >