I’ve been watching this discussion with interest. I’m a DAR member with two proven patriots and more that I could prove if I wanted to. I also have several Brethren lines that were pacifists and followed the Brethren teachings. My Miller, Dierdorff and Slifer lines were early Brethren. I’m proud of both the fighters and the pacifists - leaning toward the pacifists because it must have taken great strength and courage to buck the trend. I joined DAR for the purpose of having my line documented and on file for future generations. The present day DAR is very strict about documentation. Even if your great aunt joined on a patriot years ago, you might have to provide additional information to bring the documentation up to today’s standards. And for all of you who feel you have an ancestor listed as a DAR Patriot list who should not be there. Please document your case and send it to them. They WANT to correct errors and WILL do so but you have to provide the documentation. Someone joined DAR on my ancestor, John Slifer and even had a marker placed on his gravesite that reads: “John Slifer, Sr. Maryland, PVT. German Regiment, Revolutionary War, born May 14, 1743, died Oct 17, 1822. His name is John SCHLEIFE on the DAR Patriot index. This John was NOT the Revolutionary War Soldier. “He was a baptized member of the Brethren church and his name appears on the 1776 Roster of Members in the original organization of the Broad Run Church. He moved into the village of Burkittsville in 1770. “John Schleifer (Slifer) died October 17, 1822. He was buried in Burkitt Cemetery. In 1976, the SAR (Sons of the American Revolution) took the tombstone of Elder Slifer and reset it in the Pleasant View Church Cemetery. A ceremony was conducted by the SAR. The tombstone had been brought to the Pleasant View Church Cemetery for it had been separated somehow from the original grave in the Burkitt Cemetery. Elder John Slifer was not connected in any way wi! th any military action or any action in that war; except he opposed the war in every way. He was arrested, given a heavy fine for not taking the Oath of Allegiance, not paying the War Tax and not supplying material goods for support of the War. Had Elder Slifer participated in any way in the war, he would have been dismissed from the church.” “John Schlifer, Non-Enroller was fined by the Committee of Observation in April 1776.” (Some of the quotes in this paragraph are from John McLeod, descendant and list member.) Not long after I joined this list there were several of his descendants who were upset about this so I did the research and submitted it to DAR. I discovered there was another man with a similar name, about the same age, who lived nearby and HE did fight in the Revolutionary war, but MY John Slifer did not, and his line is now redlined. Which means no one can join on him again. DAR would not remove the marker (although I suppose a descendant could if they wanted to) but no one can join on him again. If anyone wants to see the research, they can request my documentation from DAR. So please, if you know of any errors - let DAR know. One other note, some one mentioned that providing food or other services to the troops was hard to document. There are several sources for that. Pennsylvania Archives is one that comes to mind and I believe it is still in the free portion of fold3.com. Liz Walker Miller, Dierdorff, Slifer and others descendant