Merle, I am curious, why do you think they waited 13 years after the end of the war to immigrate to Canada? I see the reason but I don't understand the length of time. Maggie -----Original Message----- From: brethren-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:brethren-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Merle Rummel Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2014 2:47 PM To: brethren@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BRE] German Brethern Immigrants Jacob immigrated to Canada in 1796 along with a number of other Dunker and Amish families from Somerset County (formed in 1795 from Bedford County). Jacob is listed as having died in Canada in DAR records, which is accurate. Jacob is on a memorial plaque in Canada for immigrants from the USA. Why did these families move to Canada....for one thing their neighbors considered them Tories who were loyal to the King of England. ************** A group of us are working on our Stump ancestry. They were in the Tulpehocken in 1723, part of the Little Swatara Congregation (a sister was wife of George Boeshar, minister) and Ephrata (two sisters, daughters of Abraham Stump Sr). A brother is the Michael Stump/Catherine Neff family of Hardy Co WVa. Several of them seem to have gone to Brother's Valley, Somerset Co (not the minister, Francis Stump, who went on to Muhlenberg Co KY), and at least one was our Abraham Stump (Jr), who went to Canada (Vaughan twp, York Co) in 1804. Several of his children came down to Nappanee IN about 1840 (after McKenzie's disastrous "1837 Rebellion"). There my Solomon Stump family founded the Union Center Church. These were Brethren. A statement made about them, by a Rev RW Stump, at Purpleville ONT is: "There were 5 Stump brothers who came up from Somerset Co PA. They were loyal to the British Monarchy, and refused to swear oath to the new rebel government." When I originally presented the finding of this statement (used the term: "Tories") - I had some almost vicious retorts of a "Patriotic nature". Bill is absolutely right about our people being persecuted and some of the results. My family was glad for the King (well, Queen), who had helped them come to this new free land - they were not going to fight him! (being of a pacifist church - maybe had something to do with it). We are having trouble determining who the 5 were. Some claim that they were the 5 children of Abraham Jr (but he had 6 sons, and most were far too young in 1804 to be given such definition). Then the 5 could possibly have been siblings of Abraham Jr, of his generation - we have suspicions of at least some of his siblings, but there is no record, and there are problems making even simple identifications in 1804 York Co ONT. The family were members of the 1710 Schoharie Settlement (refugee Palatinates - to New York), by Queen "Maud" of England, and had come down to the Tulpehocken (Pennsylvania) in the several migrations of 1723 and following. Merle C Rummel ------------------------ Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN ------------------------ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Greetings--There was a substantial emigration from Somerset County PA to Canada in the first decade of the 1800s. One possible reason is the concern about a second war with England, which in fact occurred as the War of 1812. British sympathies and/or fear of a repeat of persecution and hardships endured during the Revolutionary War could have been factors in the decision to move. Cynthia Mason -----Original Message----- From: brethren-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:brethren-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of MG Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2014 3:45 PM To: cliff@nwwnet.net; brethren@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BRE] German Brethern Immigrants Merle, I am curious, why do you think they waited 13 years after the end of the war to immigrate to Canada? I see the reason but I don't understand the length of time. Maggie -----Original Message----- From: brethren-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:brethren-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Merle Rummel Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2014 2:47 PM To: brethren@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BRE] German Brethern Immigrants Jacob immigrated to Canada in 1796 along with a number of other Dunker and Amish families from Somerset County (formed in 1795 from Bedford County). Jacob is listed as having died in Canada in DAR records, which is accurate. Jacob is on a memorial plaque in Canada for immigrants from the USA. Why did these families move to Canada....for one thing their neighbors considered them Tories who were loyal to the King of England. ************** A group of us are working on our Stump ancestry. They were in the Tulpehocken in 1723, part of the Little Swatara Congregation (a sister was wife of George Boeshar, minister) and Ephrata (two sisters, daughters of Abraham Stump Sr). A brother is the Michael Stump/Catherine Neff family of Hardy Co WVa. Several of them seem to have gone to Brother's Valley, Somerset Co (not the minister, Francis Stump, who went on to Muhlenberg Co KY), and at least one was our Abraham Stump (Jr), who went to Canada (Vaughan twp, York Co) in 1804. Several of his children came down to Nappanee IN about 1840 (after McKenzie's disastrous "1837 Rebellion"). There my Solomon Stump family founded the Union Center Church. These were Brethren. A statement made about them, by a Rev RW Stump, at Purpleville ONT is: "There were 5 Stump brothers who came up from Somerset Co PA. They were loyal to the British Monarchy, and refused to swear oath to the new rebel government." When I originally presented the finding of this statement (used the term: "Tories") - I had some almost vicious retorts of a "Patriotic nature". Bill is absolutely right about our people being persecuted and some of the results. My family was glad for the King (well, Queen), who had helped them come to this new free land - they were not going to fight him! (being of a pacifist church - maybe had something to do with it). We are having trouble determining who the 5 were. Some claim that they were the 5 children of Abraham Jr (but he had 6 sons, and most were far too young in 1804 to be given such definition). Then the 5 could possibly have been siblings of Abraham Jr, of his generation - we have suspicions of at least some of his siblings, but there is no record, and there are problems making even simple identifications in 1804 York Co ONT. The family were members of the 1710 Schoharie Settlement (refugee Palatinates - to New York), by Queen "Maud" of England, and had come down to the Tulpehocken (Pennsylvania) in the several migrations of 1723 and following. Merle C Rummel ------------------------ Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN ------------------------ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------ Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN ------------------------ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message