There was lots of migration from the Rockingham Co, VA area [including Augusta, Paige and other nearby counties] circa 1810. Not sure how much of it was German Baptists, as the German Baptists only arrived in Rockingham / Augusta in 1790. The first (I think) GB community in Virginia was at Flat Rock, in Shenandoah Co immediately north of Rockingham. In 1790 my 3GGPs John Flory & Catherine GARBER and her brother Samuel (I think that's the right one) GARBER left Flat Rock and established the Cooks Creek GB community in Rockingham (near Dayton). My 4GGPs SEITZ/SITES moved from Rockingham, VA to Fairfield, OH in 1809 along with many others from Rockingham, VA but I don't think these were GB. Meanwhile my GB 4GGF Abraham FLORA/FLORY (father of John mentioned previously) moved from PA (probably Brother's Valley) to Trotwood, Montgomery Co, OH (Miami Vlley) circa 1809. Not a direct answer to your question, but some pieces to add to your jigsaw puzzle. Thom -----Original Message----- From: Melanie Rice <mjrice.denver@gmail.com> To: brethren <brethren@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thu, Feb 13, 2014 10:56 pm Subject: Re: [BRE] Sherow Thanks, Thom! Are you aware if there was any group migration (of Brethren folks) from Rockingham / Augusta, VA to the Miami Valley in OH about 1810? Melanie On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 8:39 PM, Thom <thomasflory@aol.com> wrote: > > >I'm wondering if there were some German Baptists in Augusta County, > VAcirca 1800. > LOTS of them. All of my father's ancestors were in Rockingham Co, VA > [which split off Augusta in 1778] in the 1700s. Of his 8 GGPs, one was > raised Presbyterian, 2 German Reformed, 1 Mennonite and 4 German Baptist. > > Thom Flory > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Melanie Rice <mjrice.denver@gmail.com> > To: brethren <brethren@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thu, Feb 13, 2014 10:32 pm > Subject: Re: [BRE] Sherow > > > Thank you, Lynn. > > Yes, that book has been helpful. > > I can't figure out why two couples married in the Scot-Irish Presbyterian > church would become German Baptists when they relocated to OH. > > I'm wondering if there were some German Baptists in Augusta County, VA > circa 1800. > > Melanie > > > On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 8:12 PM, Lynn Sewell <lbsewell@frontiernet.net > >wrote: > > > Melanine, I have two comments. Are you familiar with the book which is > on > > the internet. Chronicles of the Scotch-Irish Settlement in Virginia. > This > > may help you with your questions. > > > > Also my father was raised a Mennonite and while my father and mother were > > dating he took her to church which was all in German Swiss. So German > was > > definitely spoken in some areas until 1920. It was my mother's family > that > > has the German Brethren roots. > > > > Lynn Sewell > > -----Original Message----- > > From: brethren-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto: > brethren-bounces@rootsweb.com] > > On Behalf Of Melanie Rice > > Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 8:21 PM > > To: ghoneyman@woh.rr.com > > Cc: brethren@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [BRE] Sherow > > > > Thank you, Gale. > > > > I believe our Sherow's had connections in Montgomery, Darke and Preble > > counties, OH. > > > > I belive Elizabeth Sherow, who owned land in Union and Concorde > townships, > > Miami County, OH - was a sister to Margaret Weickle Andrew, of Montgomery > > County, OH. > > > > Margaret Weickle married Samuel Andrew, in Augusta County, VA. This is > > also > > where John (sr) Sherow married Elizabeth Weickle (Sherow). These > marriages > > were in a Presbyterian congregation in a Scot-Irish area. At least these > > two couples migrated from Augusta County, VA to Miami Valley, Ohio ca > 1810. > > > > John (sr) and Elizabeth Sherow had at least one son, John. This John > > married Susannah Young. The couple had at least 13 children. It looks > > like > > the whole family moved to Marshall County, Indiana between 1840 and 1843. > > > > I'm trying to understand why two couples living in a Scot-Irish area and > > married in a Presbyterian church - would relocate to OH, and possibly > > become > > part of German Baptist congregations. And - hoping this digging will > give > > clues of where to find more information. > > > > Melanie > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 7:01 PM, <ghoneyman@woh.rr.com> wrote: > > > > > Melanie, > > > Your Sherow's lived in the lower portion of Miami County OH. The > > > Dunker minister during this time frame was Elder Philip Younce of the > > > Brush Creek branch or arm of the church. It is very unlikely that a > > > pre 1850's Dunker minister would have preformed a marriage for parties > > > who had no connections with the church. > > > Gale > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Search the > Archives > > at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > > ------------------------ > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------ > > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > > ------------------------ > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------ Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN ------------------------ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Thank you, Thom. You said: *"...the German Baptists only arrived in Rockingham / Augusta in 1790. The first (I think) GB community in Virginia was at Flat Rock, in Shenandoah Co immediately north of Rockingham."* Where did they migrate from? Is there one good book that you or one of the others could recommend, that would help me get a good overview of the history and dispersion (in the US,) of the early Brethren? Melanie On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 8:31 AM, Thom <thomasflory@aol.com> wrote: > > There was lots of migration from the Rockingham Co, VA area [including > Augusta, Paige and other nearby counties] circa 1810. Not sure how much of > it was German Baptists, as the German Baptists only arrived in Rockingham / > Augusta in 1790. The first (I think) GB community in Virginia was at Flat > Rock, in Shenandoah Co immediately north of Rockingham. In 1790 my 3GGPs > John Flory & Catherine GARBER and her brother Samuel (I think that's the > right one) GARBER left Flat Rock and established the Cooks Creek GB > community in Rockingham (near Dayton). My 4GGPs SEITZ/SITES moved from > Rockingham, VA to Fairfield, OH in 1809 along with many others from > Rockingham, VA but I don't think these were GB. Meanwhile my GB 4GGF > Abraham FLORA/FLORY (father of John mentioned previously) moved from PA > (probably Brother's Valley) to Trotwood, Montgomery Co, OH (Miami Vlley) > circa 1809. Not a direct answer to your question, but some pieces to add to > your jigsaw puzzle. > > > Thom > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Melanie Rice <mjrice.denver@gmail.com> > To: brethren <brethren@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thu, Feb 13, 2014 10:56 pm > Subject: Re: [BRE] Sherow > > > Thanks, Thom! > > Are you aware if there was any group migration (of Brethren folks) from > Rockingham / Augusta, VA to the Miami Valley in OH about 1810? > > Melanie > > > On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 8:39 PM, Thom <thomasflory@aol.com> wrote: > > > > > >I'm wondering if there were some German Baptists in Augusta County, > > VAcirca 1800. > > LOTS of them. All of my father's ancestors were in Rockingham Co, VA > > [which split off Augusta in 1778] in the 1700s. Of his 8 GGPs, one was > > raised Presbyterian, 2 German Reformed, 1 Mennonite and 4 German Baptist. > > > > Thom Flory > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Melanie Rice <mjrice.denver@gmail.com> > > To: brethren <brethren@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thu, Feb 13, 2014 10:32 pm > > Subject: Re: [BRE] Sherow > > > > > > Thank you, Lynn. > > > > Yes, that book has been helpful. > > > > I can't figure out why two couples married in the Scot-Irish Presbyterian > > church would become German Baptists when they relocated to OH. > > > > I'm wondering if there were some German Baptists in Augusta County, VA > > circa 1800. > > > > Melanie > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 8:12 PM, Lynn Sewell <lbsewell@frontiernet.net > > >wrote: > > > > > Melanine, I have two comments. Are you familiar with the book which is > > on > > > the internet. Chronicles of the Scotch-Irish Settlement in Virginia. > > This > > > may help you with your questions. > > > > > > Also my father was raised a Mennonite and while my father and mother > were > > > dating he took her to church which was all in German Swiss. So German > > was > > > definitely spoken in some areas until 1920. It was my mother's family > > that > > > has the German Brethren roots. > > > > > > Lynn Sewell > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: brethren-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto: > > brethren-bounces@rootsweb.com] > > > On Behalf Of Melanie Rice > > > Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 8:21 PM > > > To: ghoneyman@woh.rr.com > > > Cc: brethren@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: Re: [BRE] Sherow > > > > > > Thank you, Gale. > > > > > > I believe our Sherow's had connections in Montgomery, Darke and Preble > > > counties, OH. > > > > > > I belive Elizabeth Sherow, who owned land in Union and Concorde > > townships, > > > Miami County, OH - was a sister to Margaret Weickle Andrew, of > Montgomery > > > County, OH. > > > > > > Margaret Weickle married Samuel Andrew, in Augusta County, VA. This is > > > also > > > where John (sr) Sherow married Elizabeth Weickle (Sherow). These > > marriages > > > were in a Presbyterian congregation in a Scot-Irish area. At least > these > > > two couples migrated from Augusta County, VA to Miami Valley, Ohio ca > > 1810. > > > > > > John (sr) and Elizabeth Sherow had at least one son, John. This John > > > married Susannah Young. The couple had at least 13 children. It looks > > > like > > > the whole family moved to Marshall County, Indiana between 1840 and > 1843. > > > > > > I'm trying to understand why two couples living in a Scot-Irish area > and > > > married in a Presbyterian church - would relocate to OH, and possibly > > > become > > > part of German Baptist congregations. And - hoping this digging will > > give > > > clues of where to find more information. > > > > > > Melanie > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 7:01 PM, <ghoneyman@woh.rr.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Melanie, > > > > Your Sherow's lived in the lower portion of Miami County OH. The > > > > Dunker minister during this time frame was Elder Philip Younce of the > > > > Brush Creek branch or arm of the church. It is very unlikely that a > > > > pre 1850's Dunker minister would have preformed a marriage for > parties > > > > who had no connections with the church. > > > > Gale > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Search the > > Archives > > > at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > > > ------------------------ > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes > > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ > > > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > > > ------------------------ > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > ------------------------ > > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > > ------------------------ > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the > body > > of > > the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------ > > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > > ------------------------ > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >