Dwayne, What an amazing find! I am so surprised that you were able to find new information on this subject after William G. Willoughby and others had researched it so extensively. Kudos to you. I do wonder if Willoughby actually saw the records that you have access to. I did some research yesterday and was able to find a Dutch database that appears to be -- not sure -- an index to the town records of Dutch cities, including Surhuisterveen. I'm not sure whom the target audience is since some of it is written in Dutch and some in English. At any rate, I was able to find three Mack marriages that took place in Surhuisterveen. Willoughby says that Susanna Mack(ing) was married in April 1725 but the database says that the marriage occurred 12 Nov 1725. I don't know if this date agrees with your source or not. There isn't a note appended to the record about her being a daughter of Alexander Mack so this appears to be a different type of record than what you have. I am including the three Mack marriages in a separate post. I will go through the records and try to find other items that relate to the Brethren in Surhuisterveen but the records being written in Dutch does present problems. By the way, did you find any notes appended to the other marriage records that you found? One of the marriages that I found is for Maria Mack(ingh), who could be another daughter of Alexander Mack. Thanks very much for locating this information. It seems so hard to believe that additional children of Alexander Mack are being found after so many years. It's really amazing. David Myers On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 23:45:21 -0500 "Dwayne Wrightsman" <dwayne55@comcast.net> writes: > The Mack, Schneider, and other Brethren marriages that have been > discussed in the past week or so can be found in the Marriage > Proclamation Records of the Court of Achtkarspelen, the latter being > the region in Friesland where the Mack Brethren lived prior to > emigrating to Pennsylvania in 1729. > > The (mis)spelling Suederen in Willoughby's book is "Sneeder," the > "en" being a suffix. Seems that a Dutch "n" looks like an English > "u." She married John Mack, son of Alexander Mack Sr. "Sneeder" is > also the name given to Christian Schneider who married Susanna > Mackingh, "ingh" also being a Dutch suffix. Susanna Mack is said in > a note to be the daughter of Alexander Mack. > > The Dutch "Sneeder" is the same as Schneider in this country. > > Looks like two Schneider siblings married two Mack siblings. > > I have found seven Brethren marriages in these records of emigrants > who were on the Allen. I suspect that the marriages in the > Willoughby book were from these same Dutch records. > > Dwayne Wrightsman