To David Myers, In your earlier post on Maria Mack you spelled the Brumbaugh entry on page 68 as Maria Leisel (e before i). I just looked at my first edition Brumbaugh and see that he spelled it Liesel (i before e). Then I looked again at Alexander Mack Jr. and he spelled it (in German) as Lösel. So we have a total of three spellings: yours, Brumbaugh's, and Mack's. If these are second names and not surnames, Brumbaugh's spelling would be the same as Elizabeth in English. Mack's spelling would be the same as Nicolaus or Nicholas in English. Your Leisel is sometimes used as a given name but not as frequently as Liesel. I am now not as convinced that the name was a surname, especially in the context of Mack's entry of Mariahlösel. However, I have not been able to find the word/name Mariahlösel on the Internet. Dwayne Wrightsman