Dwayne, I think that it's possible that the Mathias Schneider on the Allen was a brother of the Christian and Jacob Schneider on the same ship but was not Brethren. Maybe the Brethren people were recorded together for some reason so Mathias wouldn't have been listed with them even though he was a brother of the other Schneiders on board. I don't know enough about how these passenger lists were recorded to know how likely this is but it probably should be considered a possibility. What I would really like to find is a database extraction at familysearch.org for the town where the Brethren Schneider family came from. Since I have a birth date (calculated) for the Johann Jacob Schneider who is buried in the Reformed Church cemetery in Germantown, I looked for Johann Jacob and Jacob Schneiders at the LDS site but was not able to find a match. If I had found a match, that would have made things a lot easier but that isn't what happened. David Myers On Thu, 22 May 2008 22:22:26 -0400 "Dwayne Wrightsman" <dwayne55@comcast.net> writes: > David, > > I think you might save yourself some grief by not looking at all the > > Schneiders whose given names were Christian, Jacob, and Mathias. I > went > this route in preparing for my Ship Allen Brethren paper for the > July FOBG > meeting in Richmond, and, after spinning wheels for far too long, I > discovered that the surname Schneider is too common a name and that > the > Schneiders appear in almost all counties and townships therein. > Rest > assured that your Jacob Schneider lived in the Germantown area. I > still > haven't been able to trace Christian Schneider. As for Mathias > Schneider, I > am not convinced that he was part of the Mack Brethren party on the > Allen, > or that he was even related to Christian and Jacob who were in > Mack's party. > > Dwayne