Merle, Thank you for your e-mail ref. the KY.Churches. It "kind-a" "sort-a" helps me with the emigration of my deceased husband's family emigration to Clark and Edgar Counties, ILL. around about 1820-30. It looks as though Francis Stump (died 1801) Muhlenberg County, KY was not living at the time of that 1800 "whatever" that caused the Baptist Brethren separation. Thanks again. Liz Stump s ----- Original Message ---- From: Merle C Rummel <cliff@rtkonline.com> To: brethren@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, May 8, 2008 5:54:58 AM Subject: [BRE] Another Kentucky Church I was so busy with the other Kentucky churches, that I missed this one which Rolland Flory told of in his "Lest We Forget" books - It is/was just southwest of Louisville (at or near the little suburban town of Shively) - it is still in existance as the Parkview Methodist Church, but its location has moved north into the city. Its beginning was before 1793 - a date at which it was accepted into the Salem Association. Records indicate that it was a Union Church -with both Baptist and Methodist meeting (certainly the Baptist Brethren, per later information). The Shively families donated land for a building in 1810. Flory lists membership names of Shively, Banta, Martin, Kern, Burkhart, Byers and Calvert. Many or most of these names are buried at the Shively Cemetery. I've just begun to explore these names. The family stories tell that the Shively and Banta families were at Redstone (Brownsville PA) about 1780, where Daniel Boone (?certainly only the stories about him) persuaded them of a future in Kentucky. Some of or all of these young men rowed down the Ohio River to "the Falls", where Daniel Boone (again?) persuaded them to go to Danville (main city of Kentucky then, where the state of Kentucky was organized). Enroute, in what is now Henry Co KY, an Indian attack killed John Shively and Jacob Banta. At Danville these men joined in the formation of the Low Dutch Company, which purchased some 6000 Acres of land from Squire Boone (north of Shelbyville KY - obtaining a total of 9000 Acres). Henry Shively married Mary Banta (daughter of Henry Banta) at Danville. . The Shively brothers (Christian, Jacob, Henry - sons of Michael Shively - brother John is dead) settled west of the "Wilderness Road" (or "Logan's Path") toward the mouth of the Salt River, where the town of Shively is and where this church was organized. Christian Shively (born 1746) married Anna Maria Bashore, and is recorded as returning to Pennsylvania to bring her to Kentucky. Jacob Shively (1751-1819) married Mary Swindler. Henry Shively (1759-1842) married Mary Banta. I have no information on a marriage for John Shively (1749-1781), although he was 32 years old when he was killed. I only have information on the children of Henry Shively. Henry Shively and family moved to Orange County IN (near the Lost River/Liberty Church) about 1837. Flory says that Henry's son, Jacob Banta Shively (1797-1868, wife Anna Shock?) is listed as a Brethren Minister (obituary in the Gospel Visitor - can anyone find it for me?). Most of this family went with the Disciples of Christ church after the division. These Shively families seem to have originally been Brethren and came to Kentucky as Pietistic Brethren. The "Baptist" identification of the church, then, was originally "Baptist Brethren". That as a result of the Annual Meeting actions in the early 1800s, which lost us all the Kentucky churches, this church went with the Methodists, who were also originally Pietistic. This is the Parkview Methodist Church of Louisville KY, today. Hendrick Banta III (1718-c1805) was born in New Jersey and died at the Low Dutch Settlement in Shelby Co KY. Others in that area were the Leathermans and the Stutzmans. The children of Hendrick Banta seem to have mostly come to Kentucky - I have more work to do on this family. If any of you have information about these families -I would be very interested (including Kentucky branches of the families: Martin, Kern, Burkhart, Byers and Calvert - I suspect this is includes the Peter Kern of whom I previously made inquiry) (Betty Darnell has helped me with some of the modern information.) Merle C Rummel ------------------------ Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN ------------------------ Support Our Sponsoring Agency The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:McAdamsr@hotmail.com ------------------------ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message