Dwayne, You make a good point about the many types of records that can be helpful in determining relationships in that time period. There tend to be very few records with relationships explicitly described, such as estate records, so a person has to make do. I am still looking for estate records for these particular people since I have found far fewer of them then I would have expected given that they owned significant property, etc. Our library in town has an excellent collection of Lancaster Co., PA books (land, will, church records, etc.) but no luck so far. I do wonder if the boundaries of the counties being so much in flux at that time is creating a lot of problems. I was shocked to find estate records for Andreas Krafft on the Philadelphia Co., PA USGenWeb site. He lived in an area that became western Berks Co., PA so I would have thought that his land was originally in Lancaster County. Really confusing. I wonder if something like that has happened to these Kolckgloser and Kitzmiller people. David Myers On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 09:48:40 -0400 "Dwayne Wrightsman" <dwayne55@comcast.net> writes: > David, > > As explained in Bill Thomas's message, the process of > warrant-survey-patent > was a long process, often, if not usually, taking many years. The > patentee > was often on the land prior to obtaining the patent (legal > ownership). > > In the case of warrantee "Christopher Kalligleser," he could have > been on > the land for many years before it was patented by "Christian Snyder" > in > 1762. Kalckloeser may have died prior to 1762, and Schneider, being > > Kalckloeser's brother-in-law, may have picked it up in the > settlement. > Alternatively, Kalckloeser may have wanted to vacate the land and > found his > brother-in-law willing to take it over and patent it. Many things > are > possible. > > There were two surveys of the land, C-107-131 and A-53-193, which I > found > online. These surveys are just like the ones that are still done > today, > i.e., a map of the property with the names of the surrounding > neighbors. On > the C-107-131 survey that I downloaded, the property was shown and > described > as being in Heidelberg Township (was Lancaster, now Berks) on > Licking Run > which is a branch of Tulpehocken Creek. > > If I were in your shoes, I would research Christopher Kalckloesser > (zillion > spellings of this name) in terms of where he paid taxes and when and > where > he died. > > I look forward to seeing how you integrate this into your existing > Christian > Schneider research. > > Dwayne ____________________________________________________________ Visit the Big Apple. Click here for information on vacation packages and tickets. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3nK3sWipqtxa9VhNDcsmQgeFAfwovo4bMjyMxPYt6dttVtBu/