Thanks to all for the helpful information on finding the Hustons. What's the source for the information that Thomas and Agnes Huston lived near Fort Littleton? I have quite a bit information on Thomas and Agnes after they moved to Franklin County, VA sometime around 1765. Their sons James and Samuel left Franklin County VA and moved with their families to Preble County, Ohio, about 1804. They were perhaps founders of the Four Mile Church there. Thomas and Agnes' daughter Nancy married Abraham Miller, the son of Jacob Miller, and they settled in Preble County also. Merle Rummell is the source of a great deal of information on Preble County, and I'm grateful to him for his early history of the families of Preble County. But I've never been able to find a source to prove where Thomas was born or how Thomas and Mathew were related. Any hints on how to find the source material would be welcome!! Thanks to Sharon for the referral to the PA archives. Carol Arnold -----Original Message----- From: brethren-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:brethren-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of brethren-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 12:02 AM To: brethren@rootsweb.com Subject: BRETHREN Digest, Vol 3, Issue 281 Plain digests are sent to subscribers with all posts listed in one long email. The alternative is MIME digests, which for many subscribers will appear with each post as an individual attachment, although for others, there is just one attachment. The default digest delivery is Plain, but if you want your digest in MIME, please contact us at BRETHREN-admin@rootsweb.com directly and we'll switch you over. To reply to a message, quote only that specific message, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying. To browse the archives, visit http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=brethren Thanks, your co-moderators BRETHREN-admin@rootsweb.com ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Today's Topics: 1. Re: Huston error (Valerie A. Metzler) 2. Re: Christian Schneider Patent (David Myers) 3. land patents in PA (s.m.mills@comcast.net) 4. Re: Huston error (Bob McKinley) 5. Re: land patents in PA (Virginia Morgan) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 20:14:02 -0400 From: "Valerie A. Metzler" <vmah@keyconn.net> Subject: Re: [BRE] Huston error To: brethren@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <AF7C7594-6977-4EEB-A6B6-BC8F212FD2CC@keyconn.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed And, it's Hustontown, not Hustonville. Yes, Fulton was once part of Bedford ............................... Valerie A. Metzler, M. A., C. A. Valerie Metzler Archivist/Historian 114 Ruskin Drive Altoona, Pennsylvania 16602 814 940 0493 fax 940 0493 vmah@keyconn.net On 29.07.2008, at 20:07, William Thomas wrote: > > > Fort Littleton is in present day Fulton County. > > - > Thomas and Agnes Huston lived near Fort Littleton, in Bedford Co PA > (probably near that little town of Hustonville). > > ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 17:49:04 -0500 From: David Myers <myerswd@juno.com> Subject: Re: [BRE] Christian Schneider Patent To: brethren@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <20080729.195403.3584.0.MyersWD@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain Dwayne, You make a good point about the many types of records that can be helpful in determining relationships in that time period. There tend to be very few records with relationships explicitly described, such as estate records, so a person has to make do. I am still looking for estate records for these particular people since I have found far fewer of them then I would have expected given that they owned significant property, etc. Our library in town has an excellent collection of Lancaster Co., PA books (land, will, church records, etc.) but no luck so far. I do wonder if the boundaries of the counties being so much in flux at that time is creating a lot of problems. I was shocked to find estate records for Andreas Krafft on the Philadelphia Co., PA USGenWeb site. He lived in an area that became western Berks Co., PA so I would have thought that his land was originally in Lancaster County. Really confusing. I wonder if something like that has happened to these Kolckgloser and Kitzmiller people. David Myers On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 09:48:40 -0400 "Dwayne Wrightsman" <dwayne55@comcast.net> writes: > David, > > As explained in Bill Thomas's message, the process of > warrant-survey-patent > was a long process, often, if not usually, taking many years. The > patentee > was often on the land prior to obtaining the patent (legal > ownership). > > In the case of warrantee "Christopher Kalligleser," he could have > been on > the land for many years before it was patented by "Christian Snyder" > in > 1762. Kalckloeser may have died prior to 1762, and Schneider, being > > Kalckloeser's brother-in-law, may have picked it up in the > settlement. > Alternatively, Kalckloeser may have wanted to vacate the land and > found his > brother-in-law willing to take it over and patent it. Many things > are > possible. > > There were two surveys of the land, C-107-131 and A-53-193, which I > found > online. These surveys are just like the ones that are still done > today, > i.e., a map of the property with the names of the surrounding > neighbors. On > the C-107-131 survey that I downloaded, the property was shown and > described > as being in Heidelberg Township (was Lancaster, now Berks) on > Licking Run > which is a branch of Tulpehocken Creek. > > If I were in your shoes, I would research Christopher Kalckloesser > (zillion > spellings of this name) in terms of where he paid taxes and when and > where > he died. > > I look forward to seeing how you integrate this into your existing > Christian > Schneider research. > > Dwayne ____________________________________________________________ Visit the Big Apple. Click here for information on vacation packages and tickets. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3nK3sWipqtxa9VhNDcsmQgeFAf wovo4bMjyMxPYt6dttVtBu/ ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 01:02:48 +0000 From: s.m.mills@comcast.net Subject: [BRE] land patents in PA To: brethren@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <073020080102.15481.488FBDB8000DE7D800003C7922155558849C04040703D203D29C@com cast.net> Content-Type: text/plain If you are looking for land patents, surveys, warrantees in PA, go to the State Archive site. It's wonderful, once you figure it out. You often get a map that shows neighbors. Be sure to go to google the site that has progressive maps of PA by county formation, and keep that site available while you are figuring out who lived where. Sharon Mills ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 03:14:44 GMT From: "Bob McKinley" <gravehunter1@netzero.net> Subject: Re: [BRE] Huston error To: cliff@rtkonline.com Cc: brethren@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <20080729.231444.28077.0@webmail04.dca.untd.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hustontown, Pennsylvania is in present day Fulton County, just north of the PA Turnpike, east of Sideling Hill (mountain), and west of the Fort Littleton exit on the Turnpike. Fulton County was carved out of Bedford County in 1851. Bedford County was part of Cumberland County before 1771. The Huston for which Hustontown was named was also a Thomas. He was born in Ireland about 1787 and died 1864 in Hustontown, Fulton Co., Pa. His descendants can be found at Ron Rose's Fulton County, PA Rootsweb site at: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=REG&db=rrrose2&id=I047561 We only have three Brethren Churches in Fulton County, the Knobsville Church of the Brethren, a few miles south east of Hustontown, the Corner Church of the Brethren in Ayr township several miles east of Hustontown organized 1843, and the Pleasant Ridge Church of the Brethren, my home church, in Belfast Township, Fulton County several miles south of Hustontown. Both of these churches are newer. The Pleasant Ridge Church of the Brethren spun off of the Stone Bridge Church in Franklin County, Pa on the Maryland state line about 1870. I believe the Knobsville church was started around 1940. Best regards, Bob McKinley -- Merle C Rummel <cliff@rtkonline.com> wrote: caught an error after I sent the e-mail I have the Pennsylvania locations reversed - Thomas and Agnes Huston lived near Fort Littleton, in Bedford Co PA (probably near that little town of Hustonville). Matthew's parents lived in Franklin Co PA, before they moved to Fort Henry (Wheeling). Merle C Rummel > > Matthew Huston and brother, Thomas, settled in what is now Huston Woods State Park - the father lived in the vicinity of Fort Littleton, Bedford Co PA. (Descendants had a book -shown to me.) The family moved to Fort .. now Wheeling WVa, where Matthew joined up in Gen Wayne's expedition to Cincinnati and the Northwest Territory. They claimed to be a brother of Thomas -who lived east of them, across the mountain in Franklin Co PA. > > Thomas and Agnes Huston moved from Franklin Co PA to Franklin Co VA -then the three sons came here to the Four Mile (now Union Co IN, but originally Franklin Co IN). I do not have information on whether Thomas and Agnes also came here, but I doubt it. > ____________________________________________________________ Rock Solid Web Hosting. Click Here. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2231/fc/Ioyw6ijmWLl8zzsOUCW3v5P7T3p4T ruR8xCHLyaQdiwqeOeQIgDevm/ ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 22:50:42 -0700 From: "Virginia Morgan" <purpledragon1@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: [BRE] land patents in PA To: brethren@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <410-22008733055042796@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sharon What is the URL for the map website ? Ginni Morgan > [Original Message] > From: <s.m.mills@comcast.net> > To: <brethren@rootsweb.com> > Date: 7/29/2008 6:02:49 PM > Subject: [BRE] land patents in PA > > If you are looking for land patents, surveys, warrantees in PA, go to the State Archive site. It's wonderful, once you figure it out. You often get a map that shows neighbors. > > Be sure to go to google the site that has progressive maps of PA by county formation, and keep that site available while you are figuring out who lived where. > > Sharon Mills ------------------------------ To contact the BRETHREN list administrator, send an email to BRETHREN-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the BRETHREN mailing list, send an email to BRETHREN@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of BRETHREN Digest, Vol 3, Issue 281 ****************************************