Merle, I have just found my records of the (2) boys. They are John E Burk, d. 13 Aug 1811, age 3m, 9d, son of U & S and Leander C Burk, d. 22 Aug 1811, age 3m, 18d, son of U & S At first glance it would appear that they are the sons of Ulick and Sarah, but since the date of death was 1811, that would be impossible. My grandfather said that Ulick came from a long line of "Ulicks", so it would appaear that perhaps the U would stand for Ulick (father of my Ulick, John E and Leander). I assume that John E and Leander were twins. Thanks, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Merle C Rummel" <cliff@rtkonline.com> To: "BILL & CHRIS BURK" <bburkiii@earthlink.net>; <brethren@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 8:02 PM Subject: Re: [BRE] Dunkard Church & Ulick BURK > Thank you for the information. This is the area of the Four Mile Church > of the Brethren, the Keffer Cemetery is located on properties originally > owned by the early Brethren (Jacob Kingery Sr, and Thomas Huston Jr. - > nearby were Isaac Lawshe (toward College Corner) and Martin Kingery (north > by Cottage Grove), the cemetery is named after the family of George > Keffer, who lived across the road south of it, and as I remember, owned > the land) he had bought Jacob Kingery's land, after his death in 1811). > There was a later church building at Keffer Cemetery. That building is now > a barn about a half mile east of the site. > I do not recognize the name of Ulick Burk, although I do know Brethren > with the name of Burk (not here on the Four Mile). I will do some > checking. Cottage Grove is where the railroad crosses US27. Keffer > Cemetery is slightly more than a half mile south of US 27, on the road a > half mile east of Cottage Grove. The road going strait east from Cottage > Grove went to the Lower Four Mile Church - 2 miles away. > > Most of these Brethren (Dunker) families, here at the Four Mile, came from > Franklin County Virginia, but most of them, or their parents, had moved to > there from Pennsylvania (Franklin Co/Lancaster Co) and Maryland (Frederick > Co/Washington Co), starting about 1770. > > The Lower Four Mile Church building was some 2 1/2 miles east and north > of the Keffer Cemetery. Its building was built about 1845, but a major > migration to Iowa in 1855 eventually closed its doors, and the church at > Keffer Cemetery replaced it. The date we had on the building at Keffer > Cemetery was about 1870, and likely was the one attended by your > grandfather. > > You have given a much earlier date for the Church at Keffer Cemetery than > I had found (the cemetery was very early, but not the church building), > and I am beginning to wonder if the original Lower Four Mile Church > building might have been the one actually referred to for Ulick Burk, and > not the one here in Keffer Cemetery. Yes, many burials of the Lower Four > Mile people were here at Keffer Cemetery, many of the Lower Four Mile > families lived west of the church, north of the Keffer Cemetery. > I do not know who owned the land of the Lower Four Mile Church when it was > built. It was about 2 miles north of College Corner OH - and about 1/2 > mile inside Indiana, it was on the west bank of Little Four Mile Creek. > The creek comes west from the Huston Woods State Park in Ohio, going just > north of College Corner, then it turns north for some 8-10 miles, with > both the Lower and the Upper Four Mile Churches build on or close to it. > > Samuel Kingery lived just east of the creek. Martin Kingery lived north > of the church, and John Garver lived south of it. Elder Daniel Miller > lived just west of Martin. The original road south followed the west bank > of Little Four Mile Creek into College Corner. Several years after the > church was built, that road was closed, and the present "Nine Mile Road" > was placed at one mile from the state line (or about 1/2 mile west of the > church). If this is the case, your grandfather, being young, did not > catch the fact of the two different churches, especially since the earlier > one had closed. Yes, those benches were/are hard. > > There are considerable Quakers in the area also -one early church (Salem) > is about three mile or so from the Keffer Cemetery, just west of Cottage > Grove. > > One help to me would be if you knew the exact location of the farm of > Ulick Burk here in Union Co IN. > I've done a book on the Four Mile Church (named: The Virginia Settlement), > at the Union County Library site > - www.union-county.lib.in.us/GenwebVA4mile/Table%20of%20Contents%204M.htm > It includes maps and pictures. > I live here, at Boston IN, and my wife's grandfather, and great > grandfather were the Elders of the Four Mile Church, she is a > Miller/Lybrook/Kingery descendent. > > Merle C Rummel > > >> My grandfather (1870-1957) wrote the following in his memoirs: >> "We attended church occasionally at a Dundard church built upon land >> given to them for church and burying ground by my grandfather Burk >> (Ulick), however, so far as I know neither of my grandparents were >> members of any religious denomination. These Dunkards were very fine >> citizens; loyal, hard working farmer men and women devoted to their >> religious customs. Men with long beards and women always dressing in >> somber non-revealing costume with ground touching skirts. The church >> seats were hard wooden benches and the sermon serious and quite long. >> Joining church with them was in baptism by total submersion, three times >> forward, in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. Many times I >> saw them break the ice on a nearby creek pool; then preacher wading waist >> deep, led the new comminunicants." >> >> He continues, >> "Grandfather Burk had the unusal given name of Ulick. He was of >> Pennsylvania Dutch-Irish stock, who came from that state in the early >> 1840's to settle in Indiana, married my grandmother Sarah Nicholas, and >> died at the age of 39 (1849)." >> >> Ulick Burk's land was near Cottage Grove, Union County, Indiana. He and >> his family are buried in the Keffer Cemetery, which is just west of the >> Burk property. >> >> My question is this: >> I haven't been able to find any records of Ulick Burk in the Penssylvania >> Dutch area of PA, nor have I been able to find much about him at all; so >> I was wondering if he may have had some connection to the Brethern >> (Dunkards) in Pennsylvania. Does anyone have a suggestion of where I can >> pursue his early records? >> > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.135 / Virus Database: > 270.4.5/1533 - Release Date: 7/3/2008 7:19 PM > > >