In 1973, Rolland F. Flory, who was a Brethren minister at Donnel's Creek Church, Clark County, Ohio, wrote a book entitled "Lest We Forget and Tales of Yester-Years." Donnel's Creek was where the Christian and Mary [Garst] Frantz and the Daniel and Anna [Garst] Frantz had settled and where many of their Frantz descendants lived over the years. Mary and Anna were daughters of John Nicholas Garst. On page 174 of his book, Flory wrote the following about the wife of John Nicholas Garst. "John Nicholas, Sr., the father of the Garst sisters, was born in Germany in the year 1725. He arrived in Philadelphia in the year 1749 to search out and find a location for settlement. The following year his father, Theobold, mother Magdalene, one brother Dewald and five sisters, the youngest at the time being eleven years of age, sailed to America on the ship 'Isaac.' They landed at the city of 'Brotherly Love' and upon their arrival they soon settled in Bethel Township, Lancaster County, on land son John Nicholas had selected for the family. They settled in a community of German families, many of which were of the Brethren faith. SOON AFTER THE ARRIVAL OF THE FAMILY HE WAS MARRIED TO THE DAUGHTER OF A NEIGHBOR BRETHREN FAMILY AND SOON UNITED WITH THAT FAITH." (all-caps mine) One wonders where Flory got this information, but, assuming he is correct, we know that John Nicholas Garst's closest Brethren neighbor was Michael Frantz of Little Swatara, whose first cousin, Michael Frantz II of Cocalico, was the father of the four Frantz brothers who married the four Garst sisters. Michael Frantz of Little Swatara was the same age as John Nicholas Garst and had no children. He did, however, have a sister, Elizabeth, who was two years younger than John Nicholas Garst. She is the most likely candidate to have been the wife of John Nicholas Garst. Dwayne Wrightsman

> In 1973, Rolland F. Flory, who was a Brethren minister at Donnel's Creek > Church, Clark County, Ohio, wrote a book entitled "Lest We Forget and Tales > of Yester-Years." > > One wonders where Flory got this information, but, assuming he is correct, Yes, this is another case of - what we see with Austin Cooper - and his Brothers Valley book Rolland Flory became the principal of the Sinking Spring High School - in Highland Co OH, a few years after I had taught there. I never knew him, but had heard of him, and do use his Lest I Forget Vol 3 - on the Kentucky Churches (The Brush Creek Church [Strait Creek Church] there at Sinking Spring is where John Countryman came in 1797). Where did Rolland Flory get his information? I can assume he did a lot of traveling down into Kentucky. After he died, I did some checking about his records. There are none. But I am finding that his information is pretty accurate. The statement given to me by the President at Manchester College was that while he didn't footnote - he referenced most of his statements in his work. That is partially true (but there are so many times I wish I knew where he got certain informations). And you know - I'm not going to do a lot better. Do I footnote every statement I make? I can give major sources, and do give specific references, but there are so many pieces of information that I really am not going to footnoted every couple lines clear through my whole book!!! In a way, its like Jesus says in the Bible - The Jewish Scribes proved their accuracy by giving all the references ("Rabbi Gamalial says that Rabbi Lemuel said that - - ") - yet Jesus "taught with Authority" - and - "I say unto you - - " Merle C Rummel

Dwayne: The 1777 non-associator listing for Bethel Township, Lancaster County included Dewalt Gerst, Nicholas Gerst, Nicholas Gerst Jr., and Frederick Gerst. This implies they were likely German Baptist or Mennonite. To a lesser degree they could have been Quaker or Loyalist to be on this list. Bill Thomas -----Original Message----- From: brethren-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:brethren-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dwayne Wrightsman Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 12:08 PM To: brethren@rootsweb.com; garst@rootsweb.com; frantz@rootsweb.com Subject: [BRE] Wife of John Nicholas Garst In 1973, Rolland F. Flory, who was a Brethren minister at Donnel's Creek Church, Clark County, Ohio, wrote a book entitled "Lest We Forget and Tales of Yester-Years." Donnel's Creek was where the Christian and Mary [Garst] Frantz and the Daniel and Anna [Garst] Frantz had settled and where many of their Frantz descendants lived over the years. Mary and Anna were daughters of John Nicholas Garst. On page 174 of his book, Flory wrote the following about the wife of John Nicholas Garst. "John Nicholas, Sr., the father of the Garst sisters, was born in Germany in the year 1725. He arrived in Philadelphia in the year 1749 to search out and find a location for settlement. The following year his father, Theobold, mother Magdalene, one brother Dewald and five sisters, the youngest at the time being eleven years of age, sailed to America on the ship 'Isaac.' They landed at the city of 'Brotherly Love' and upon their arrival they soon settled in Bethel Township, Lancaster County, on land son John Nicholas had selected for the family. They settled in a community of German families, many of which were of the Brethren faith. SOON AFTER THE ARRIVAL OF THE FAMILY HE WAS MARRIED TO THE DAUGHTER OF A NEIGHBOR BRETHREN FAMILY AND SOON UNITED WITH THAT FAITH." (all-caps mine) One wonders where Flory got this information, but, assuming he is correct, we know that John Nicholas Garst's closest Brethren neighbor was Michael Frantz of Little Swatara, whose first cousin, Michael Frantz II of Cocalico, was the father of the four Frantz brothers who married the four Garst sisters. Michael Frantz of Little Swatara was the same age as John Nicholas Garst and had no children. He did, however, have a sister, Elizabeth, who was two years younger than John Nicholas Garst. She is the most likely candidate to have been the wife of John Nicholas Garst. Dwayne Wrightsman ------------------------ Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN ------------------------ Support Our Sponsoring Agency The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:McAdamsr@hotmail.com ------------------------ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bill, Nicholas Gerst Jr. and Frederick Gerst were two of the sons of Nicholas Gerst. They were born into a Brethren family as Nicholas Gerst switched from Reformed to Brethren soon after settling in Bethel Township at age 22. I presume he became Brethren due to the Brethren influence in his life, e.g., marriage, etc. Dewalt Gerst was a younger brother of Nicholas Gerst who remained Reformed until after their father Theobald died in 1770. Dewalt had many children and only those born before 1770 were baptized as infants in the Reformed Church. I think Dewalt's Reformed affiliation ended with the death of his father. Dwayne ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Thomas" <wbtst2@atlanticbb.net> To: <brethren@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 7:30 PM Subject: Re: [BRE] Wife of John Nicholas Garst > > > Dwayne: > > The 1777 non-associator listing for Bethel Township, Lancaster County > included Dewalt Gerst, Nicholas Gerst, Nicholas Gerst Jr., and Frederick > Gerst. This implies they were likely German Baptist or Mennonite. To a > lesser degree they could have been Quaker or Loyalist to be on this list. > > Bill Thomas > > -----Original Message----- > From: brethren-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:brethren-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Dwayne Wrightsman > Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 12:08 PM > To: brethren@rootsweb.com; garst@rootsweb.com; frantz@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BRE] Wife of John Nicholas Garst > > > In 1973, Rolland F. Flory, who was a Brethren minister at Donnel's Creek > Church, Clark County, Ohio, wrote a book entitled "Lest We Forget and > Tales > of Yester-Years." Donnel's Creek was where the Christian and Mary [Garst] > Frantz and the Daniel and Anna [Garst] Frantz had settled and where many > of > their Frantz descendants lived over the years. Mary and Anna were > daughters > > of John Nicholas Garst. > > On page 174 of his book, Flory wrote the following about the wife of John > Nicholas Garst. > > "John Nicholas, Sr., the father of the Garst sisters, was born in Germany > in > > the year 1725. He arrived in Philadelphia in the year 1749 to search out > and find a location for settlement. The following year his father, > Theobold, mother Magdalene, one brother Dewald and five sisters, the > youngest at the time being eleven years of age, sailed to America on the > ship 'Isaac.' They landed at the city of 'Brotherly Love' and upon their > arrival they soon settled in Bethel Township, Lancaster County, on land > son > John Nicholas had selected for the family. They settled in a community of > German families, many of which were of the Brethren faith. SOON AFTER THE > ARRIVAL OF THE FAMILY HE WAS MARRIED TO THE DAUGHTER OF A NEIGHBOR > BRETHREN > FAMILY AND SOON UNITED WITH THAT FAITH." (all-caps mine) > > One wonders where Flory got this information, but, assuming he is correct, > we know that John Nicholas Garst's closest Brethren neighbor was Michael > Frantz of Little Swatara, whose first cousin, Michael Frantz II of > Cocalico, > > was the father of the four Frantz brothers who married the four Garst > sisters. Michael Frantz of Little Swatara was the same age as John > Nicholas > Garst and had no children. He did, however, have a sister, Elizabeth, who > was two years younger than John Nicholas Garst. She is the most likely > candidate to have been the wife of John Nicholas Garst. > > Dwayne Wrightsman > > > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > Support Our Sponsoring Agency > The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) > For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:McAdamsr@hotmail.com > ------------------------ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > Support Our Sponsoring Agency > The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) > For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:McAdamsr@hotmail.com > ------------------------ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message