Bill, Although I cannot make a judgment through personal research, I have seen evidence that the Burkhardts/Burketts came from Berks County. I am stuck in my Shaffer research, but I strongly suspect they came from Berks County as well, and this is how I have been running into the Burkett information. There seems to be some parallel activity; my grandfather always said that "John Shaffer (Sr.) fought in the Revolutionary War" and that he "was Lutheran" and this also seems to be true of Jacob Burkett of Allegheny Township. No, I don't think they were German Baptist early, as in Berks County, but I do suspect influences in Somerset County. John Shaffer Jr. married Nancy Bechtel, daughter of Jacob Bechtel of Stony Creek Township. The Bechtels seem to have been Reformed or Lutheran in Somerset County, but are descended from the Mennonite Bechtels of Washington County, Maryland, and Berks County, Pennsylvania and some of their children became German Baptist. John Shaffer Jr.'s sister, Elizabeth Shaffer married John Gans Jr. of a strong German Baptist family, and another sister, Catherine Shaffer married Peter Trump in Stark County, Ohio, likely a Lutheran, but with ties to Klingamans who were/became German Baptist. Sisters Susanna Shaffer married David Blocher Hoff and Lydia Shaffer married Jacob Blocher Hoff in Ohio, and they were German Baptist. All very interesting, and had I more time I would work on figuring out the connections between all these families. John > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 21:00:16 -0400 > Subject: Re: [BRE] Vintage Maps...Burkhart's > > Do you know where they lived prior to coming to Somerset County? I found a > Burkett family in Berks County that seems to be a good fit. Jacob of > Allegheny was a Rev. War Vet, and there was a Jacob Burkett in the Berks > County war records. Of course this would tend to eliminate an early German > Baptist connection. > > Bill Thomas > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of john shafer > Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 6:36 PM > To: Brethren Listserve > Subject: Re: [BRE] Vintage Maps...Burkhart's > > > Bill, > > Thank you for your response. I ask this question out of curiosity because > my Shaffer family seems to have been so influenced by the German Baptists > even before becoming members in Wayne County, Ohio. They drop out of > Lutheran Church Baptismal records very early in the 1800's even though the > family was still living in the same place. According to the records of the > Berlin Reformed/Lutheran Church the Shaffers, Cohenours and > Burkharts/Burketts witnessed the baptism of each other's children: So these > families must have been Lutheran or Reformed before 1800. (My grandfather > claimed they were Lutheran.) > > Jonathan, parents John Schafer and Catherine Born 10 September 1788 Baptized > 17 Nov 1788, witnesses Jacob Borckfard and Elizabeth > > Samuel, parents Jacob Boochard, Elizabeth, Born 10 Apr 1790, Baptized 4 Jul > 1790, witnesses John Shaffer, Catherine > > John, parents John Jacob Burkhard, Elizabeth, Born 20 Jan 1795 Baptized (no > date) witnesses John Shafer, Susanna > > Elizabeth, parents Christian Lauchnour, Catherine, Born 29 Nov 1798, > Baptized 24 Apr 1799, witnesses, John Shafer, Susanna > > This may not be of interest to you, but maybe others out there may have more > information. > > John Shafer > > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 16:05:58 -0400 > > Subject: Re: [BRE] Vintage Maps...Burkhart's > > > > John: > > > > I am familiar with the Burkhart family of Allegheny Township, which my > wife > > is a descendent. The patriarch of her family is Jacob Burkett who owned > > property near Brush and Wills Creeks. The 1816 map location is off a tad, > > if this is Jacob's property. > > > > I am unclear as to their religious denomination. My wife's ties to the > > Burkett's begin with her great grandmother, who was Roman Catholic. > > However, the cemetery where her great-great Burkett grandparents are > buried > > is not Catholic. The New Baltimore area of Allegheny Township had a > > significant Roman Catholic population, but the area where Jacob lived had > > several Lutheran Churches in the 1876 Atlas. > > > > There also was a Burkett/Burkhart family that lived in Bedford County that > > was close to German Baptist areas. The nearest German Baptist community I > > am aware of near Allegheny Township where west of the mountain ridge along > > present Route 31, on the Stony Creek and Brothersvalley Township line. > > > > Bill Thomas > > > > > > ------------------------ > > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > > ------------------------ > > Support Our Sponsoring Agency > > The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) > > For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:[email protected] > > ------------------------ > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > Support Our Sponsoring Agency > The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) > For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:[email protected] > ------------------------ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > Support Our Sponsoring Agency > The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) > For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:[email protected] > ------------------------ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I don't know if this will help or not , but there is a Burkett family web site. Lynn -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of john shafer Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 8:24 AM To: Brethren Listserve Subject: Re: [BRE] Vintage Maps...Burkhart's Bill, Although I cannot make a judgment through personal research, I have seen evidence that the Burkhardts/Burketts came from Berks County. I am stuck in my Shaffer research, but I strongly suspect they came from Berks County as well, and this is how I have been running into the Burkett information. There seems to be some parallel activity; my grandfather always said that "John Shaffer (Sr.) fought in the Revolutionary War" and that he "was Lutheran" and this also seems to be true of Jacob Burkett of Allegheny Township. No, I don't think they were German Baptist early, as in Berks County, but I do suspect influences in Somerset County. John Shaffer Jr. married Nancy Bechtel, daughter of Jacob Bechtel of Stony Creek Township. The Bechtels seem to have been Reformed or Lutheran in Somerset County, but are descended from the Mennonite Bechtels of Washington County, Maryland, and Berks County, Pennsylvania and some of their children became German Baptist. John Shaffer Jr.'s sis! ter, Elizabeth Shaffer married John Gans Jr. of a strong German Baptist family, and another sister, Catherine Shaffer married Peter Trump in Stark County, Ohio, likely a Lutheran, but with ties to Klingamans who were/became German Baptist. Sisters Susanna Shaffer married David Blocher Hoff and Lydia Shaffer married Jacob Blocher Hoff in Ohio, and they were German Baptist. All very interesting, and had I more time I would work on figuring out the connections between all these families. John > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 21:00:16 -0400 > Subject: Re: [BRE] Vintage Maps...Burkhart's > > Do you know where they lived prior to coming to Somerset County? I found a > Burkett family in Berks County that seems to be a good fit. Jacob of > Allegheny was a Rev. War Vet, and there was a Jacob Burkett in the Berks > County war records. Of course this would tend to eliminate an early German > Baptist connection. > > Bill Thomas > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of john shafer > Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 6:36 PM > To: Brethren Listserve > Subject: Re: [BRE] Vintage Maps...Burkhart's > > > Bill, > > Thank you for your response. I ask this question out of curiosity because > my Shaffer family seems to have been so influenced by the German Baptists > even before becoming members in Wayne County, Ohio. They drop out of > Lutheran Church Baptismal records very early in the 1800's even though the > family was still living in the same place. According to the records of the > Berlin Reformed/Lutheran Church the Shaffers, Cohenours and > Burkharts/Burketts witnessed the baptism of each other's children: So these > families must have been Lutheran or Reformed before 1800. (My grandfather > claimed they were Lutheran.) > > Jonathan, parents John Schafer and Catherine Born 10 September 1788 Baptized > 17 Nov 1788, witnesses Jacob Borckfard and Elizabeth > > Samuel, parents Jacob Boochard, Elizabeth, Born 10 Apr 1790, Baptized 4 Jul > 1790, witnesses John Shaffer, Catherine > > John, parents John Jacob Burkhard, Elizabeth, Born 20 Jan 1795 Baptized (no > date) witnesses John Shafer, Susanna > > Elizabeth, parents Christian Lauchnour, Catherine, Born 29 Nov 1798, > Baptized 24 Apr 1799, witnesses, John Shafer, Susanna > > This may not be of interest to you, but maybe others out there may have more > information. > > John Shafer > > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 16:05:58 -0400 > > Subject: Re: [BRE] Vintage Maps...Burkhart's > > > > John: > > > > I am familiar with the Burkhart family of Allegheny Township, which my > wife > > is a descendent. The patriarch of her family is Jacob Burkett who owned > > property near Brush and Wills Creeks. The 1816 map location is off a tad, > > if this is Jacob's property. > > > > I am unclear as to their religious denomination. My wife's ties to the > > Burkett's begin with her great grandmother, who was Roman Catholic. > > However, the cemetery where her great-great Burkett grandparents are > buried > > is not Catholic. The New Baltimore area of Allegheny Township had a > > significant Roman Catholic population, but the area where Jacob lived had > > several Lutheran Churches in the 1876 Atlas. > > > > There also was a Burkett/Burkhart family that lived in Bedford County that > > was close to German Baptist areas. The nearest German Baptist community I > > am aware of near Allegheny Township where west of the mountain ridge along > > present Route 31, on the Stony Creek and Brothersvalley Township line. > > > > Bill Thomas > > > > > > ------------------------ > > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > > ------------------------ > > Support Our Sponsoring Agency > > The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) > > For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:[email protected] > > ------------------------ > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > Support Our Sponsoring Agency > The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) > For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:[email protected] > ------------------------ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > Support Our Sponsoring Agency > The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) > For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:[email protected] > ------------------------ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------ Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN ------------------------ Support Our Sponsoring Agency The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:[email protected] ------------------------ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message