"DAR looseness with documentation in the past contrasts with their strict adherence to "Patriotic service" now." From the current DAR website http://www.dar.org/natsociety/content.cfm?ID=145&hd=n&FO=Y&CFID=2446978&CFTOKEN=34887045 under "Eligibility" they still list [among others]: --State and Local Militia [most pacifist Brethren were enrolled in the militia despite their refusal to participate] --Those who rendered material aid such as furnishing supplies with or without remuneration...[doesn't this include pacifists who refused to sell or give their goods to the Army, but had it confiscated] --Furnishing a substitute for military service [or in other words buying your way out of serving]. Please explain how any of these demonstrate "strict adherence to 'Patriotic Service'". I will also comment that I have cousins [from my non-Brethren ancestors] who were admitted to the DAR only after they were forced to list my 4GGF's George Zimmermann / Carpenter's second wife Anna Schöttli as their female ancestor despite that not being the case. We can document with contemporaneous wills on file in courthouses in both Virginia and Kentucky that there were two wives. The DAR's position is that they have only one wife in their records, and they don't care what court records we can produce. This definitely makes me question DAR's continuing documentation issues. Thom Flory -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Fri, Jul 1, 2011 4:00 pm Subject: Re: [BRE] Non-enrollers Thank you for the comments Robert. Today's DAR 'ain't' your granny's DAR. I've spoken to many of the groups on various textile history topics. They could fully engage on the complexities of tax laws, trade routes, military interventions and social histories that all effected textile production. It wasn't just the DAR that 'romanticized' (which rhymes with 'fantasized") facts during the Colonial Revival period. "DAR looseness with documentation in the past contrasts with their strict adherence to "Patriotic service" now." Jan Thomas