On 2/25/2011 11:26 PM, Suzy wrote: > Thank for your answers, Bill, N. H. and Gale. I have perused the listings on the COB site, and the other lists, but am still combing through the Ephrata book which I had never seen before. > > I only have a small window of perhaps 8 years: 1768-1776 the time when ha was a semi-adult (probably on his own, but it's not certain) but before he was present and accounted for in Somerset Co (Bedford at the time). The only thing I really have is that his wife was in or near Carlisle in 1779 when his son John was born. (Jacob is in Somerset as early as 1776 when he was on a tax list, so I am not sure how that happened.) I know other Schmucker researchers have combed though things long before this, but I keep hoping his name will magically appear. ;) > > Thaks of rht e replies, though. It's very interesting. > > Suzy Smucker Wert > Indianapolis One other complication - The Chronicon normally does not use use actual names, the person would choose or be given a religious name - seemingly far different from their actual name. I'd have to check - but as I remember, Alexander Mack Jr was called "Brother Timotheus" A connected movement was that of Elder George Adam Martin. He had connections to Ephrata, but was somewhat separate. As I understand, he never was IN the Ephrata Cloisters. He was a leading Pietist, as opposed to the increasing Anabaptism of the Brethren Elders, probably was Sabbatarian. He had frequent disagreements with the Brethren Elders, they deemed him a serious problem. He was baptized in 1735 at the Conawago Church (Ephrata locale), was at the 1737 Great Swamp meeting with Conrad Biessel. as an Elder, he was sent by Elder Martin Urner, to Zinzendorf's Moravian Synod, as a/the Brethren Representative. In 1762 he was at the Bermudian Church. He helped found the Snow Hill Nunnery on the Antietam (a Seventh Day extension of Ephrata - only recently closed). In 1763 he and Elder Peter Miller went to Brothers Valley (Cumberland Co - later Bedford [1771]/Somerset [1795] PA). A migration of Brethren went there about that time (?followed him there?). I've only peripherally followed your correspondence - but have you checked Austin Cooper's 2 Centuries in Brohers Valley? - I do not have a name indexed copy (one of Austin's first printing). Merle C Rummel

I am seriously interested in anything to do with the Great Swamp community. This is the first that I had ever heard of a meeting there as early as 1737. Is there a list of the attendees? Is there anything about the congregation itself? Where should I look for information??? John McLeod, with Schleiffer ancestors through my maternal grand-father. On 2/26/2011 4:38 AM, Merle C Rummel wrote: > > A connected movement was that of Elder George Adam Martin. He had > connections to Ephrata, but was somewhat separate. As I understand, he > never was IN the Ephrata Cloisters. He was a leading Pietist, as > opposed to the increasing Anabaptism of the Brethren Elders, probably > was Sabbatarian. He had frequent disagreements with the Brethren > Elders, they deemed him a serious problem. He was baptized in 1735 at > the Conawago Church (Ephrata locale), !!!!!!!!! > was at the 1737 Great Swamp > meeting with Conrad Biessel. !!!!!!!!! > as an Elder, he was sent by Elder Martin > Urner, to Zinzendorf's Moravian Synod, as a/the Brethren > Representative. In 1762 he was at the Bermudian Church. He helped > found the Snow Hill Nunnery on the Antietam (a Seventh Day extension of > Ephrata - only recently closed). In 1763 he and Elder Peter Miller went > to Brothers Valley (Cumberland Co - later Bedford [1771]/Somerset [1795] > PA). A migration of Brethren went there about that time (?followed him > there?). >