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    1. Re: [BRE] Who was the father of John Groff of theBermudian Brethren?
    2. Ilene - The Ulrich Zug Cemetery is located in the northern part of Lancaster County on Airy Hill Road between Locust Grove Road and Penryn Road.  It is owned by a family named Rohrer and they are very friendly.   Ulrich was my 6th ggrandfather.  Let me know if you need any additional information. Sincerely, Doug Zook Anderson, IN ________________________________ From: Ilene Smith <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, April 25, 2011 2:13:53 PM Subject: Re: [BRE] Who was the father of John Groff of theBermudian Brethren? Where is the Zug cemetery?  Ulrich Zug was my 5 great grandfather on dad's side.  Thanks. Ilene Smith -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 7:18 PM To: Bob Harter; [email protected] Subject: Re: [BRE] Who was the father of John Groff of theBermudian Brethren? I have three photos of the stone that Bob discusses below in the Zug Cemetery. Send me an email if you would like a copy of the photos. Perhaps someone who reads 18th century German can decipher the stone. Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Harter" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 3:55:36 PM Subject: Re: [BRE] Who was the father of John Groff of the Bermudian Brethren? I have her name as Barbara Groff. Am I incorrect or was it Elizabeth Barbara Groff (or Barbara Elizabeth Groff)? Daniel Holllinger and Elizabeth/Barbara Groff are my 4G Grandparents. I have another puzzle with Daniel that has intrigued me. He is buried in the Ulrich Zug family cemetery. Why? The only connection I have found to the Zug family was that Barbara's younger sister, Eva Groff, married John Kinsey, whose mother was Barbara Zug. That seems to be an awfully weak as a reason for the burial. I have visited the cemetery, and Daniel is the only non-Zug there. Bob Harter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dwayne Wrightsman" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 10:09 AM Subject: [BRE] Who was the father of John Groff of the Bermudian Brethren? > If you search the web for John Groff who married Elizabeth Hollinger (both > baptized at Conestoga in 1793) you quickly discover that there are two > theories of who his father was. Most say it was Samuel Groff, but other > than a questionable connection from Groff Book II, there seems little or > no > basis for this theory. A few (including Mennonite researcher Richard > Warren > Davis) say it was Franz Groff (1734-1819) of Rapho Township in Lancaster > County. Franz Graff had a daughter Barbara (baptized at Conestoga in > 1795) > who married Daniel Hollinger (baptized at Conestoga in 1790). This Daniel > Hollinger was a brother of Elizabeth [Hollinger] Groff who married John > Groff. Several of the children of John and Elizabeth were buried in the > Bermudian Brethren Cemetery in Washington Township in York County. > > > > I tend to lean to the idea that the Groffs and Hollingers were double > brothers- and sisters-in-law, based on the Conestoga baptisms, but I have > no > way to otherwise back this up. > > > > Dwayne Wrightsman > > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > Support Our Sponsoring Agency > The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) > For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:[email protected] > ------------------------ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------ Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN ------------------------ Support Our Sponsoring Agency The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:[email protected] ------------------------ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message                               ------------------------ Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN                               ------------------------                         Support Our Sponsoring Agency             The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:[email protected]                               ------------------------ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message                               ------------------------ Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN                               ------------------------                         Support Our Sponsoring Agency             The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:[email protected]                               ------------------------ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/25/2011 07:14:25
    1. Re: [BRE] Who was the father of John Groff of theBermudian Brethren?
    2. Ilene Smith
    3. Doug, Thank you for the information. It may be in one of the Zug books I have but didn't look! Again, thanks. Ilene -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 4:14 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [BRE] Who was the father of John Groff of theBermudian Brethren? Ilene - The Ulrich Zug Cemetery is located in the northern part of Lancaster County on Airy Hill Road between Locust Grove Road and Penryn Road.  It is owned by a family named Rohrer and they are very friendly.   Ulrich was my 6th ggrandfather.  Let me know if you need any additional information. Sincerely, Doug Zook Anderson, IN ________________________________ From: Ilene Smith <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, April 25, 2011 2:13:53 PM Subject: Re: [BRE] Who was the father of John Groff of theBermudian Brethren? Where is the Zug cemetery?  Ulrich Zug was my 5 great grandfather on dad's side.  Thanks. Ilene Smith -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 7:18 PM To: Bob Harter; [email protected] Subject: Re: [BRE] Who was the father of John Groff of theBermudian Brethren? I have three photos of the stone that Bob discusses below in the Zug Cemetery. Send me an email if you would like a copy of the photos. Perhaps someone who reads 18th century German can decipher the stone. Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Harter" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 3:55:36 PM Subject: Re: [BRE] Who was the father of John Groff of the Bermudian Brethren? I have her name as Barbara Groff. Am I incorrect or was it Elizabeth Barbara Groff (or Barbara Elizabeth Groff)? Daniel Holllinger and Elizabeth/Barbara Groff are my 4G Grandparents. I have another puzzle with Daniel that has intrigued me. He is buried in the Ulrich Zug family cemetery. Why? The only connection I have found to the Zug family was that Barbara's younger sister, Eva Groff, married John Kinsey, whose mother was Barbara Zug. That seems to be an awfully weak as a reason for the burial. I have visited the cemetery, and Daniel is the only non-Zug there. Bob Harter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dwayne Wrightsman" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 10:09 AM Subject: [BRE] Who was the father of John Groff of the Bermudian Brethren? > If you search the web for John Groff who married Elizabeth Hollinger (both > baptized at Conestoga in 1793) you quickly discover that there are two > theories of who his father was. Most say it was Samuel Groff, but other > than a questionable connection from Groff Book II, there seems little or > no > basis for this theory. A few (including Mennonite researcher Richard > Warren > Davis) say it was Franz Groff (1734-1819) of Rapho Township in Lancaster > County. Franz Graff had a daughter Barbara (baptized at Conestoga in > 1795) > who married Daniel Hollinger (baptized at Conestoga in 1790). This Daniel > Hollinger was a brother of Elizabeth [Hollinger] Groff who married John > Groff. Several of the children of John and Elizabeth were buried in the > Bermudian Brethren Cemetery in Washington Township in York County. > > > > I tend to lean to the idea that the Groffs and Hollingers were double > brothers- and sisters-in-law, based on the Conestoga baptisms, but I have > no > way to otherwise back this up. > > > > Dwayne Wrightsman > > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > Support Our Sponsoring Agency > The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) > For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:[email protected] > ------------------------ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------ Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN ------------------------ Support Our Sponsoring Agency The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:[email protected] ------------------------ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message                               ------------------------ Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN                               ------------------------                         Support Our Sponsoring Agency             The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:[email protected]                               ------------------------ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message                               ------------------------ Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN                               ------------------------                         Support Our Sponsoring Agency             The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:[email protected]                               ------------------------ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------ Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN ------------------------ Support Our Sponsoring Agency The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:[email protected] ------------------------ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/28/2011 03:37:47