I am away from home and do not have access to my files. My ancestor Johann Adam Wise was married to Maria Elizabetha Graff. Her father, Franz Graff, was apparently on the same ship (the name of which I can't recall this minute.) when they came over in 1748. I have church record copies at home which gives the names. I will try to attend to getting that information to all when I return next week. I have never tried to find further information on the original family. I hope the information will help someone. On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 8:37 AM, Ilene Smith <[email protected]> wrote: > Doug, > Thank you for the information. It may be in one of the Zug books I have > but > didn't look! Again, thanks. > Ilene > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of [email protected] > Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 4:14 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [BRE] Who was the father of John Groff of theBermudian > Brethren? > > Ilene - > > The Ulrich Zug Cemetery is located in the northern part of Lancaster County > on > Airy Hill Road between Locust Grove Road and Penryn Road. It is owned by a > family named Rohrer and they are very friendly. Ulrich was my 6th > ggrandfather. Let me know if you need any additional information. > > Sincerely, > > Doug Zook > Anderson, IN > > > > ________________________________ > From: Ilene Smith <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Mon, April 25, 2011 2:13:53 PM > Subject: Re: [BRE] Who was the father of John Groff of theBermudian > Brethren? > > Where is the Zug cemetery? Ulrich Zug was my 5 great grandfather on dad's > side. Thanks. > Ilene Smith > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of [email protected] > Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 7:18 PM > To: Bob Harter; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [BRE] Who was the father of John Groff of theBermudian > Brethren? > > I have three photos of the stone that Bob discusses below in the Zug > Cemetery. Send me an email if you would like a copy of the photos. > > Perhaps someone who reads 18th century German can decipher the stone. > > Ray > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bob Harter" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 3:55:36 PM > Subject: Re: [BRE] Who was the father of John Groff of the Bermudian > Brethren? > > I have her name as Barbara Groff. Am I incorrect or was it Elizabeth > Barbara > > Groff (or Barbara Elizabeth Groff)? > Daniel Holllinger and Elizabeth/Barbara Groff are my 4G Grandparents. > I have another puzzle with Daniel that has intrigued me. He is buried in > the > > Ulrich Zug family cemetery. Why? The only connection I have found to the > Zug > > family was that Barbara's younger sister, Eva Groff, married John Kinsey, > whose mother was Barbara Zug. That seems to be an awfully weak as a reason > for the burial. I have visited the cemetery, and Daniel is the only non-Zug > there. > > Bob Harter > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dwayne Wrightsman" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 10:09 AM > Subject: [BRE] Who was the father of John Groff of the Bermudian Brethren? > > > > If you search the web for John Groff who married Elizabeth Hollinger > (both > > > baptized at Conestoga in 1793) you quickly discover that there are two > > theories of who his father was. Most say it was Samuel Groff, but other > > than a questionable connection from Groff Book II, there seems little or > > no > > basis for this theory. A few (including Mennonite researcher Richard > > Warren > > Davis) say it was Franz Groff (1734-1819) of Rapho Township in Lancaster > > County. Franz Graff had a daughter Barbara (baptized at Conestoga in > > 1795) > > who married Daniel Hollinger (baptized at Conestoga in 1790). This Daniel > > Hollinger was a brother of Elizabeth [Hollinger] Groff who married John > > Groff. Several of the children of John and Elizabeth were buried in the > > Bermudian Brethren Cemetery in Washington Township in York County. > > > > > > > > I tend to lean to the idea that the Groffs and Hollingers were double > > brothers- and sisters-in-law, based on the Conestoga baptisms, but I have > > no > > way to otherwise back this up. > > > > > > > > Dwayne Wrightsman > > > > > > ------------------------ > > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > > ------------------------ > > Support Our Sponsoring Agency > > The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) > > For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:[email protected] > > ------------------------ > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > Support Our Sponsoring Agency > The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) > For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:[email protected] > ------------------------ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > Support Our Sponsoring Agency > The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) > For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:[email protected] > ------------------------ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > Support Our Sponsoring Agency > The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) > For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:[email protected] > ------------------------ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > Support Our Sponsoring Agency > The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) > For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:[email protected] > ------------------------ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > Support Our Sponsoring Agency > The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) > For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:[email protected] > ------------------------ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >