Ginni, Thanks for the look up. I have that info plus the birth/bapt records of Casper & Elizabeth's chn. They moved on to Westmoreland Co (as did many of the Germans in Lanc Co) & then westward. As for the Weaver/Webers, I've been to Lanc Co a number of times & done a great deal of research on them. Casper was a member of the First Reformed Church. Valentine Weber may have been Casper's father as they named their 1st son Valentine, nine & a half months after they were married. There was a church record for a Valentine Weber being buried 19 Dec 1789, aged 86y 4m 14d. But I've wondered about the Rummels. As near as I can tell, there was no son named Jacob. But he could have died before being baptized. The second son that I can find being baptized, in 1759 (which is a long time after Casper's marriage), was Peter Weber. Ginni, I'm curious about your Brenners & Rudisills. Did any of your families come through Columbiana Co, Oh? And Merle, did any of your Stumps come through Columbiana Co, Oh also? Pat McArtor