Back in 1998, Merle Rummel posted a long list of names thought to be part of the "Dutch Settlement" of Brethren in northern Muhlenberg County, KY, located in the area where the Green River and the Pond River join together. Many of them lived on Cypress Creek which joined the Pond River a few miles upstream from where the Pond River joined the Green River at the northern tip of Muhlenberg County. One of the names on Merle's list was William Weir. I suspect that the William Weir on Merle's list was the William Weir, son of William Weir Sr. and Susannah Miller, who lived in the southwest corner of Muhlenberg County and was a neighbor of the Groves, Gates, Shutt, Severs, and other families who lived on the waters of Long Creek. If so, and if he were Brethren, he was more likely to have been associated with the Long Creek Brethren than with the Dutch Settlement Brethren, but that is not the point of this query. To Merle, do you remember what the basis was upon which you listed William Weir as a possible Brethren? To other Brethren Listers, are any of you familiar with any Brethren Weir families? All I know is that there was a William Weir who was very involved with the Groves, Gates, and Shutt families in the early 1800s. John, George, and Michael Gates were married to the three youngest Groves sisters. Henry Shutt was married to the oldest Groves sister. The Groves brothers were Daniel, Jacob, Joseph, Jonathan, and Solomon. These nine families lived close to one another on Long Creek. Dwayne Wrightsman

<<All I know is that there was a William Weir who was very involved with the Groves, Gates, and Shutt families in the early 1800s. John, George, and Michael Gates were married to the three youngest Groves sisters. Henry Shutt was married to the oldest Groves sister. The Groves brothers were Daniel, Jacob, Joseph, Jonathan, and Solomon. These nine families lived close to one another on Long Creek.>> Dwayne Wrightsman, It is unfortunate that I don't have anything for you on your Weir family. I am descended from these Gates, Groves and Shutts among others in the Muhlenberg Co., area. What kind of interaction have you seen between these and the family of William Weir? It gets quite tangled, but I'm related to all three of these families in many ways. Later, Dan Cook

Dan, The Weir family is not mine, I'm just researching it in my endeavor to learn more about the Long Creek Brethren community. For interactions between William Weir and your Groves, Gates, and Shutt ancestors, I suggest you go to the shuttdescendants website and scroll through the archives of messages from the past ten years or so. There's a lot of wheat among the chaff in those archives. Dwayne Wrightsman -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 4:21 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [BRE] William Weir - Brethren? <<All I know is that there was a William Weir who was very involved with the Groves, Gates, and Shutt families in the early 1800s. John, George, and Michael Gates were married to the three youngest Groves sisters. Henry Shutt was married to the oldest Groves sister. The Groves brothers were Daniel, Jacob, Joseph, Jonathan, and Solomon. These nine families lived close to one another on Long Creek.>> Dwayne Wrightsman, It is unfortunate that I don't have anything for you on your Weir family. I am descended from these Gates, Groves and Shutts among others in the Muhlenberg Co., area. What kind of interaction have you seen between these and the family of William Weir? It gets quite tangled, but I'm related to all three of these families in many ways. Later, Dan Cook