Iris, I don't have anything on your family but wanted to offer one tidbit that might help on the research. Ohio was originally held by the Connecticut Land Company, which owners recruited New England and PA families. Families came as early as the late 1790s-1801 but rumors began that the property deeds would not be transferred. Therefore people were reluctant to buy. Then, more people came between 1810 to 1830s. You might try Google Books and search for each Ohio County--- then do a search for your families' names. Keep a list of which county histories you search so you'll have those 'negative results'. Not all families made the history books, but it's worth a try. As you know, county bios usually say where a family's ancestor was from. Judy On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Iris Wilde <[email protected]>wrote: > Tabitha's second husband is Joseph Monz sometimes spelled Minz.Whitley > County book 2 page 120 shows them as having been married on June 26, 1871 > with possible spelling of Minz as his last name. They are found in 1880 > living in Chester Township, Wabash County, Indiana under Montz. Also, the > spelling on his wife's tombstone states she was wife of Joseph Montz which > can be clearly seen. He was a 57 year old farmer and was born in PA in the > census. His wife Tabitha J. was 54 and living with them was 15 years old > Anna Robison whom he identifies as his step-daughter and who was born in > Indiana. Tobitha has a tombstone spelled Tobitha and listed with death as > Nov 1, 1852 and shows on the tombstone that she was wife of Joseph Montz as > well as how long she lived. > Now, regarding my Grandfather, I have in my possession their > Affidavit for Marriage License which is signed December 31, 1845. They > were > married on January 1, 1846 per marriage return. I also have an 1860 > census > for them.I have an 1870 census that only names her. I did learn that they > did the 1870 census I am thinking the census was taken after my > Grandfather's death in 1870.His tombstone states he died on April 12, 1870. > Their child, my *Grandmother's* Sister is called Mari Etta also (which goes > nicely with Irena Anna). In the notice from the paper that I sent you, I > have her sister's name is Mary E. Robinson. My Grandmother's only other > sister died at 17 years name was Emily Jane. I have traced Tobitha back to > being born to a John and Jane Robison in Ohio. That 1850 census has his > name, her Mother's name as Jane my Great Grandmother's name as Jane as a > child and shows she had several siblings, none of which I have as of yet > been successful in tracing. Not only that, I am at a complete deadend grid > with determining anything more about her parents other than that her Father > came from PA and gives birth of 1793. I have managed also to discover that > her Mother's maiden name was Neils from some old records. That's about all > I > know on them. I also don't know what their religious believes and > foundation > were. Obviously, I still have some work to do to see if I can determine if > land was owned or any other records can be found giving more information. > In regards to my Robison Great Grandfather, he is shown by > the 1900 census for Irena A. Cripe to be born in Ohio and the Mother to be > born in PA. However, I now feel sure the Mother was born in Ohio so perhaps > that got crisscrossed. According to the 1860 Census for Cleveland Township > he was indeed born in PA and Tobitha in Ohio. I have ONE lead that may > eventually prove to be of some merit. I am hoping someday, a very old > record > might show up that names the children of Henry and Ann Robison. There is > one > male that fits the age of my Grandfather I am told by someone who is a > descendant of Henry Robison. In the census, it is evidently noted that > there > may be eight children. However, names are not given. My Grandfather James > did own property with real estate valued at $200 and personal estate of > $112. Also, their Daughter Emily Jane may have been given family names. It > is my understanding that Henry Robison is known to have had a daughter by > the name of Emily. Jane would have been Tobitha's Mother's name. > I apologize if I have bored you. I am looking for clues wherever I > may find them at! Thanks for any help you might be able to give. I'll be > glad to share anything I come across that may be of interest to you. My > Best, Iris Daughter of Ira D. Cripe > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 11:41 PM, gale honeyman <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > 1880 census says Mary was born in Indiana; 1900 census says she was born > > Indiana, both parents born Germany. I failed to locate her thereafter. > > In 1860 and 1870 census of Indiana, there is no James Robinson born in > > either Germany or Scotland. > > > > Who was Tabitha's 2nd husband? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Iris Wilde" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 11:32 PM > > Subject: Re: [BRE] Question > > > > > > >I was sent an obit by family tree members in Indiana after my visit > > there. > > > It reads, > > > Mrs. Mary E. Landis died Wednesday evening at the home of her son, > Vesta > > > Landis, in East Manchester Thursday evening of last week she suffered a > > > sudden attack of apoplexy and paralysis and was unconscious from then > > > until > > > her death. She had been employed in the home of Cornelius Kinsey at > > Hoover > > > and was brought to her son's home Tuesday. She became worse and died > > > Wednesday. The funeral will be held Friday afternoon at two o'clock at > > the > > > Old Order Dunkard church a mile west and a half mile north of town. > Rev. > > > Joseph E. Metzger and Elder John Miller of Hoover will have charge of > the > > > services. Burial will be in the cemetery by the church. Mary E. Robison > > > was > > > born in Scotland, September 9, 1859, and died at North Manchester, > > > February > > > 16, 1916, aged 56 years, 9 months and 12 days. She came with her > parents > > > to > > > this country at an early age and was later married to Joseph E. Landis, > > > living about North Manchester untilhis death a few years ago. She had > > made > > > her home at Hoover for about six years but often came here to visit her > > > son > > > Vesta, she is survived by one sister, Mrs. Jacob Cripe of Lawrence, > > > Kansas. > > > This is from a VERY OLD newspaper clipping and most likely a North > > > Manchester one. > > > ********There is also other information on the web that made me wonder. > > > Most > > > of it is over ten years old so I'm thinking perhaps it was just > > > misunderstood that she actually came as a child from Scotland though I > am > > > saving the clipping (of course)*********** > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 7:16 PM, gale honeyman <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > >> Iris, > > >> > > >> CRIPE--Irene Anna Cripe, daughter of James and Tabitha Jane Robinson, > > was > > >> born Jan. 3, 1864, near North Manchester, Ind. She died at the home > of > > >> her > > >> grandson, Ernest D. Wray, Baldwin City, Kan., on Jan. 15, 1951, age 87 > > >> years > > >> and 12 days. She was the last of her family to be called home. > > >> She was united in marriage on June 3, 1883 to Jacob E. Cripe near > > North > > >> Manchester, Ind. > > >> They lived near North Manchester until 1898 when they moved with > their > > >> family to near Birch Tree, Mo., and in 1900 moved to Kansas. > > >> abstracted from her obit, The Vindicator, March 1951, pp 94-95 > > >> > > >> LANDIS--Mary Etta Robinson, daughter of Mr. and Mrs. James Robinson, > was > > >> born Sept. 4, 1859; died Feb 16, 1916, aged 56 years, 5 mos, and 12 > das. > > >> She united in marriage to Joseph M. Landis, Nov. 17, 1878. > > >> Funeral by the Brethren at the North Manchester M.H. to a large and > > >> attentive audience. > > >> abstracted from her obit, The Vindicator, April 1916, p 126 > > >> > > >> These are the only two obits that mention a James Robinson. There are > > >> none > > >> for him nor Tabitha. > > >> > > >> Gale > > > > > > ------------------------ > > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > > ------------------------ > > Support Our Sponsoring Agency > > The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) > > For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:[email protected] > > ------------------------ > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > Come home to www.soldiersangels.org and adopt a Soldier! 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Judy, What a super great idea! I was reading in this book about the first case where someone left all their American goods to someone in Ireland and what a dispute that caused.....never thought about property deeds but it makes sense in lieu of what was happening in our country at the time. I will search google books. That will help me tremendously. Sooner or later, I always hope to "dig up something" and lots of times I've been successful. :) Thanks so much, Iris On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 10:11 AM, J.A. Florian <[email protected]> wrote: > Iris, > > I don't have anything on your family but wanted to offer one tidbit that > might help on the research. > > Ohio was originally held by the Connecticut Land Company, which owners > recruited New England and PA families. Families came as early as the late > 1790s-1801 but rumors began that the property deeds would not be > transferred. Therefore people were reluctant to buy. Then, more people > came between 1810 to 1830s. > > You might try Google Books and search for each Ohio County--- then do a > search for your families' names. Keep a list of which county histories you > search so you'll have those 'negative results'. Not all families made the > history books, but it's worth a try. As you know, county bios usually say > where a family's ancestor was from. > > Judy > > On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Iris Wilde <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > Tabitha's second husband is Joseph Monz sometimes spelled Minz.Whitley > > County book 2 page 120 shows them as having been married on June 26, 1871 > > with possible spelling of Minz as his last name. They are found in 1880 > > living in Chester Township, Wabash County, Indiana under Montz. Also, the > > spelling on his wife's tombstone states she was wife of Joseph Montz > which > > can be clearly seen. He was a 57 year old farmer and was born in PA in > the > > census. His wife Tabitha J. was 54 and living with them was 15 years old > > Anna Robison whom he identifies as his step-daughter and who was born in > > Indiana. Tobitha has a tombstone spelled Tobitha and listed with death > as > > Nov 1, 1852 and shows on the tombstone that she was wife of Joseph Montz > as > > well as how long she lived. > > Now, regarding my Grandfather, I have in my possession their > > Affidavit for Marriage License which is signed December 31, 1845. They > > were > > married on January 1, 1846 per marriage return. I also have an 1860 > > census > > for them.I have an 1870 census that only names her. I did learn that they > > did the 1870 census I am thinking the census was taken after my > > Grandfather's death in 1870.His tombstone states he died on April 12, > 1870. > > Their child, my *Grandmother's* Sister is called Mari Etta also (which > goes > > nicely with Irena Anna). In the notice from the paper that I sent you, I > > have her sister's name is Mary E. Robinson. My Grandmother's only other > > sister died at 17 years name was Emily Jane. I have traced Tobitha back > to > > being born to a John and Jane Robison in Ohio. That 1850 census has his > > name, her Mother's name as Jane my Great Grandmother's name as Jane as a > > child and shows she had several siblings, none of which I have as of yet > > been successful in tracing. Not only that, I am at a complete deadend > grid > > with determining anything more about her parents other than that her > Father > > came from PA and gives birth of 1793. I have managed also to discover > that > > her Mother's maiden name was Neils from some old records. That's about > all > > I > > know on them. I also don't know what their religious believes and > > foundation > > were. Obviously, I still have some work to do to see if I can determine > if > > land was owned or any other records can be found giving more information. > > In regards to my Robison Great Grandfather, he is shown by > > the 1900 census for Irena A. Cripe to be born in Ohio and the Mother to > be > > born in PA. However, I now feel sure the Mother was born in Ohio so > perhaps > > that got crisscrossed. According to the 1860 Census for Cleveland > Township > > he was indeed born in PA and Tobitha in Ohio. I have ONE lead that may > > eventually prove to be of some merit. I am hoping someday, a very old > > record > > might show up that names the children of Henry and Ann Robison. There is > > one > > male that fits the age of my Grandfather I am told by someone who is a > > descendant of Henry Robison. In the census, it is evidently noted that > > there > > may be eight children. However, names are not given. My Grandfather James > > did own property with real estate valued at $200 and personal estate of > > $112. Also, their Daughter Emily Jane may have been given family names. > It > > is my understanding that Henry Robison is known to have had a daughter by > > the name of Emily. Jane would have been Tobitha's Mother's name. > > I apologize if I have bored you. I am looking for clues wherever > I > > may find them at! Thanks for any help you might be able to give. I'll be > > glad to share anything I come across that may be of interest to you. My > > Best, Iris Daughter of Ira D. Cripe > > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 11:41 PM, gale honeyman <[email protected] > > >wrote: > > > > > 1880 census says Mary was born in Indiana; 1900 census says she was > born > > > Indiana, both parents born Germany. I failed to locate her thereafter. > > > In 1860 and 1870 census of Indiana, there is no James Robinson born in > > > either Germany or Scotland. > > > > > > Who was Tabitha's 2nd husband? > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Iris Wilde" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 11:32 PM > > > Subject: Re: [BRE] Question > > > > > > > > > >I was sent an obit by family tree members in Indiana after my visit > > > there. > > > > It reads, > > > > Mrs. Mary E. Landis died Wednesday evening at the home of her son, > > Vesta > > > > Landis, in East Manchester Thursday evening of last week she suffered > a > > > > sudden attack of apoplexy and paralysis and was unconscious from then > > > > until > > > > her death. She had been employed in the home of Cornelius Kinsey at > > > Hoover > > > > and was brought to her son's home Tuesday. She became worse and died > > > > Wednesday. The funeral will be held Friday afternoon at two o'clock > at > > > the > > > > Old Order Dunkard church a mile west and a half mile north of town. > > Rev. > > > > Joseph E. Metzger and Elder John Miller of Hoover will have charge of > > the > > > > services. Burial will be in the cemetery by the church. Mary E. > Robison > > > > was > > > > born in Scotland, September 9, 1859, and died at North Manchester, > > > > February > > > > 16, 1916, aged 56 years, 9 months and 12 days. She came with her > > parents > > > > to > > > > this country at an early age and was later married to Joseph E. > Landis, > > > > living about North Manchester untilhis death a few years ago. She had > > > made > > > > her home at Hoover for about six years but often came here to visit > her > > > > son > > > > Vesta, she is survived by one sister, Mrs. Jacob Cripe of Lawrence, > > > > Kansas. > > > > This is from a VERY OLD newspaper clipping and most likely a North > > > > Manchester one. > > > > ********There is also other information on the web that made me > wonder. > > > > Most > > > > of it is over ten years old so I'm thinking perhaps it was just > > > > misunderstood that she actually came as a child from Scotland though > I > > am > > > > saving the clipping (of course)*********** > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 7:16 PM, gale honeyman <[email protected] > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> Iris, > > > >> > > > >> CRIPE--Irene Anna Cripe, daughter of James and Tabitha Jane > Robinson, > > > was > > > >> born Jan. 3, 1864, near North Manchester, Ind. She died at the home > > of > > > >> her > > > >> grandson, Ernest D. Wray, Baldwin City, Kan., on Jan. 15, 1951, age > 87 > > > >> years > > > >> and 12 days. She was the last of her family to be called home. > > > >> She was united in marriage on June 3, 1883 to Jacob E. Cripe near > > > North > > > >> Manchester, Ind. > > > >> They lived near North Manchester until 1898 when they moved with > > their > > > >> family to near Birch Tree, Mo., and in 1900 moved to Kansas. > > > >> abstracted from her obit, The Vindicator, March 1951, pp 94-95 > > > >> > > > >> LANDIS--Mary Etta Robinson, daughter of Mr. and Mrs. James Robinson, > > was > > > >> born Sept. 4, 1859; died Feb 16, 1916, aged 56 years, 5 mos, and 12 > > das. > > > >> She united in marriage to Joseph M. Landis, Nov. 17, 1878. > > > >> Funeral by the Brethren at the North Manchester M.H. to a large > and > > > >> attentive audience. > > > >> abstracted from her obit, The Vindicator, April 1916, p 126 > > > >> > > > >> These are the only two obits that mention a James Robinson. There > are > > > >> none > > > >> for him nor Tabitha. > > > >> > > > >> Gale > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ > > > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > > > ------------------------ > > > Support Our Sponsoring Agency > > > The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) > > > For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto: > [email protected] > > > ------------------------ > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Come home to www.soldiersangels.org and adopt a Soldier! 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