Merle: Should add that my many great Uncle Christian Thomas was married to Mary Morgan d/o of Peter Morgan. When Mary died, he married Susanna Hoffman, the sister of his brother-in-law Jacob Hoffman, who was married to Hannah Morgan (so Jacob was his two-way brother-in-law). Christian was the lone German Baptist, with the rest of his siblings being Mennonite. Christian and Susannah are buried in the Berkey COB cemetery in Somerset County. Bill Thomas

There were five Mennonite families from Zweibrücken on the Ship Hope (1733) who became Brethren. In addition to Flory, Stouder, and Longenecker, who settled in Rapho Township, there were also the Reinhardt and Grumbacher/Crumpacker families. The Reinhardts and Grumbachers settled on the Schoolkill River in Conventry Township in Chester County. They were baptized by Martin Urner and became Brethren leaders in the Conventry congregation and later on beyond Pennsylvania in Maryland and Virginia. Although most of the Longeneckers were associated with the Conestoga congregation, one of the Longenecker immigrants as I recall was associated with the Coventry congregation. For background, there were 27 Mennonite families in the Zweibrücken Congregation in 1732. There were 14 Mennonite families on the Ship Hope in 1733, of which 11 of these families were from the Zweibücken Congregation. The 5 families who became Brethren mentioned above were among these 11. I wonder if that was just a coincidence or due to the times when Michael Frantz and Martin Urner were near their evangelical peaks. Dwayne Wrightsman

I'm distantly related to Milton Hershey via marriage....we didn't get included in his estate. Maybe that's why my grandmother always made her candy with Peter's chocolate! -----Original Message----- From: captainlaser@comcast.net Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 2:52 PM To: brethren@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BRE] Connections to 1733 Ship Hope Thanks for this Bill. The Herschi's (Swiss spelling) have a family plot east of Manheim PA on Indian Village Road. You can find it opposite a large dairy there. We have them to thank for the chocolate bars, I hear. Ray From: "Bill Thomas" <wbtst2@atlanticbb.net> To: brethren@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 1:35:58 PM Subject: [BRE] Connections to 1733 Ship Hope Dwayne Wrightsman recently noted the (then) Mennonite Flory, Stouder and Longnecker families who came to America on the ship Hope in 1733, and then settled in what is now Ralpho Township. This got my curiosity going, and did some research that produced some information that expands on this subject. I’ll begin with some additional Mennonite families from this region: 1.. Another Mennonite family of note on the Hope, which was Michael Witmer and his son’s Ulrich, Peter and Hans. They also had property in Ralpho Township. 2.. A second Mennonite family of note was that of Johannes Long, who lived in adjacent Manheim Township coming to America about 1722. 3.. A third notable Mennonite family that lived in both Manheim and Ralpho Township was the Hershey family, who came to America in 1717. 4.. Newcomer is another notable Mennonite name from this area, found in Leacock, Hempfield and Manor Townships. All of these families are connected to the children of Mennonite Jacob Good and Elizabeth Gerber, a family with notable German Baptist connections. Jacob moved his family from Warwick Township to Frederick County (now Washington County), Maryland about 1767, where he died in 1797 (I had previously researched this Good family). Jacob and Elizabeths’s children were as follows: 1.. Anna Good married Peter Longnecker. Peter was likely the brother (or cousin) of Rev. Christian Longnecker, who led the White Oak Land congregation per Morgan Edwards. 2.. John Good married a Susan ??, and moved to Perry County, OH. His son Jacob may have lived in Somerset County, PA. 3.. Elizabeth Good married Joseph Long. Joseph was German Baptist, and purchased Jacob Good’s property in Frederick County. Joseph’s brother Isaac has historical significance. Isaac’s barn was used in 1767 for a revival led by Philip Otterbein and Martin Boehm, the founders of the United Brethren denomination. 4.. Barbara Good married Peter Witmer, son of immigrant Ulrich Witmer. They lived on a farm near Elizabethtown, in Lancaster County. 5.. Jacob Good married a Mary Bosley, ended up in Cambria County where he died on his farm that overlooks Johnstown, PA, my home town. 6.. Mary Good married Christian Hershey. The exact parentage of Christian is speculative, but he is tied to the Hershey family of this region. A Christian Hershey lived very close to Jacob Good in Warwick Township 7.. Catherine Good married Peter Newcomer, who is likely the Peter Newcomer born in Manor Township. Manor Township was also home to a number of Witmer’s. 8.. Christian Good and his wife Barbara moved to Washington County, MD and are buried on the family farm with his parents. 9.. Abraham Good owned property adjacent his brother Jacob in Cambria County. The property was adjacent the Stonycreek River. John Stouder Sr. & Jr. had warrants for property along the Stonycreek River in what is now Cambria County, which was near a number of German Baptists who settled in Cambria County, including Peter Morgan. This was in very close proximity to the Good properties. The Stouder’s immigrated to Ohio by 1820, where David Stouder the brother of John Sr. had earlier founded the Obannon German Baptist church in 1795. The Hershey family is also of interest. 1.. A Jacob Hershey & wife were baptized in 1768 by Michael Pfautz and were part of the White Oak Land Congregation in 1770. This is likely Jacob married to Anna Newcomer d/o Wolfgang Newcomer of Leacock Township. Jacob and Anna later became United Brethren. Anna’s brother was United Brethren Bishop, Christian Newcomer. 2.. Christian Newcomer was Mennonite (or maybe German Baptist??) in 1776, where he is on a list of Washington County, MD non-enrollers listed as “Dunkers & Menonist”. Three Good brothers John, Christian and Abraham are on the same list. 3.. Christian Longnecker baptized a John Hershey and Catherine Hershey in 1776. John is also likely Rev. John B. Hershey, who later became a United Brethren Minister in Washington County, MD 4.. Jacob and John Hershey were brothers. One researcher suspects that John B. Hershey was at the 1767 revival at Isaac Long’s barn. Mennonite historians believe John B. Hershey was also a Mennonite minister, and became a United Brethren minister about 1791. 5.. Jacob, John and Catherine Hershey are likely children of Andrew Hershey of Hempfield Township. 6.. Andrew’s son Andrew Jr. is likely the Andrew Hershey in York County, that some claim is the father of Christian Hershey husband of Mary Good. I thought I would pass this info on. May also be of some help in identifying the Stouder’s Dwayne asked about. 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Merle: Somewhat speculative that they are brothers, but a John and David Stouder are on the 1776 Frederick County non-enrollers list being fined on the same day (April 12, 1776). John was fined 5 pounds, and David 3 pounds. Samuel Thomas (a minister at some point) had his fine reduced to 3 pounds. Was David fined 3 pounds since he was a minister???? Info is from Maryland Historical Magazine Vol XI, December 1916. Bill Thomas -----Original Message----- From: Merle Rummel Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 2:14 PM To: brethren@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BRE] Connections to 1733 Ship Hope John Stouder Sr. & Jr. had warrants for property along the Stonycreek River in what is now Cambria County, which was near a number of German Baptists who settled in Cambria County, including Peter Morgan. This was in very close proximity to the Good properties. The Stouder's immigrated to Ohio by 1820, where David Stouder the brother of John Sr. had earlier founded the Obannon German Baptist church in 1795. *********** Do you have record of the David Stouder? - is there really such a person? The Obannon Church has the tradition of him, as founder of the Church - but we have never found record of him. We have wondered if this David Stouder might have been kin to the family of John Stouder (died in Cambira - before the children came to Clermont Co OH). We have located a Brethren minister, David Stover, in early Highland County OH, come up from Kentucky - and wonder if this might be the unknown person - but even he has little or no records of activity in the Brethren. - - and Peter Morgan was actually originally "Maugan" - eldest son of Conrad and Rebbecca Maugans - of Wolfsville, Washington Co MD. - most of his brothers and sisters came to the Obannon: [Catherine - m. Abraham Miller; Magdalina - m. David Miller; Matthias (of whom I have found no information); Mary - m. John Frey; Elizabeth - m. Frederick Weaver (Obannon Church originally met in his home at Goshen OH); Gabrial; Daniel; and David]. Only Abraham, John and Barbara (m. John Myers) remained in Washington Co MD. David moved on to Miami Co OH. Merle ------------------------ Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN ------------------------ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

John Stouder Sr. & Jr. had warrants for property along the Stonycreek River in what is now Cambria County, which was near a number of German Baptists who settled in Cambria County, including Peter Morgan. This was in very close proximity to the Good properties. The Stouder's immigrated to Ohio by 1820, where David Stouder the brother of John Sr. had earlier founded the Obannon German Baptist church in 1795. *********** Do you have record of the David Stouder? - is there really such a person? The Obannon Church has the tradition of him, as founder of the Church - but we have never found record of him. We have wondered if this David Stouder might have been kin to the family of John Stouder (died in Cambira - before the children came to Clermont Co OH). We have located a Brethren minister, David Stover, in early Highland County OH, come up from Kentucky - and wonder if this might be the unknown person - but even he has little or no records of activity in the Brethren. - - and Peter Morgan was actually originally "Maugan" - eldest son of Conrad and Rebbecca Maugans - of Wolfsville, Washington Co MD. - most of his brothers and sisters came to the Obannon: [Catherine - m. Abraham Miller; Magdalina - m. David Miller; Matthias (of whom I have found no information); Mary - m. John Frey; Elizabeth - m. Frederick Weaver (Obannon Church originally met in his home at Goshen OH); Gabrial; Daniel; and David]. Only Abraham, John and Barbara (m. John Myers) remained in Washington Co MD. David moved on to Miami Co OH. Merle

Dwayne Wrightsman recently noted the (then) Mennonite Flory, Stouder and Longnecker families who came to America on the ship Hope in 1733, and then settled in what is now Ralpho Township. This got my curiosity going, and did some research that produced some information that expands on this subject. I’ll begin with some additional Mennonite families from this region: 1.. Another Mennonite family of note on the Hope, which was Michael Witmer and his son’s Ulrich, Peter and Hans. They also had property in Ralpho Township. 2.. A second Mennonite family of note was that of Johannes Long, who lived in adjacent Manheim Township coming to America about 1722. 3.. A third notable Mennonite family that lived in both Manheim and Ralpho Township was the Hershey family, who came to America in 1717. 4.. Newcomer is another notable Mennonite name from this area, found in Leacock, Hempfield and Manor Townships. All of these families are connected to the children of Mennonite Jacob Good and Elizabeth Gerber, a family with notable German Baptist connections. Jacob moved his family from Warwick Township to Frederick County (now Washington County), Maryland about 1767, where he died in 1797 (I had previously researched this Good family). Jacob and Elizabeths’s children were as follows: 1.. Anna Good married Peter Longnecker. Peter was likely the brother (or cousin) of Rev. Christian Longnecker, who led the White Oak Land congregation per Morgan Edwards. 2.. John Good married a Susan ??, and moved to Perry County, OH. His son Jacob may have lived in Somerset County, PA. 3.. Elizabeth Good married Joseph Long. Joseph was German Baptist, and purchased Jacob Good’s property in Frederick County. Joseph’s brother Isaac has historical significance. Isaac’s barn was used in 1767 for a revival led by Philip Otterbein and Martin Boehm, the founders of the United Brethren denomination. 4.. Barbara Good married Peter Witmer, son of immigrant Ulrich Witmer. They lived on a farm near Elizabethtown, in Lancaster County. 5.. Jacob Good married a Mary Bosley, ended up in Cambria County where he died on his farm that overlooks Johnstown, PA, my home town. 6.. Mary Good married Christian Hershey. The exact parentage of Christian is speculative, but he is tied to the Hershey family of this region. A Christian Hershey lived very close to Jacob Good in Warwick Township 7.. Catherine Good married Peter Newcomer, who is likely the Peter Newcomer born in Manor Township. Manor Township was also home to a number of Witmer’s. 8.. Christian Good and his wife Barbara moved to Washington County, MD and are buried on the family farm with his parents. 9.. Abraham Good owned property adjacent his brother Jacob in Cambria County. The property was adjacent the Stonycreek River. John Stouder Sr. & Jr. had warrants for property along the Stonycreek River in what is now Cambria County, which was near a number of German Baptists who settled in Cambria County, including Peter Morgan. This was in very close proximity to the Good properties. The Stouder’s immigrated to Ohio by 1820, where David Stouder the brother of John Sr. had earlier founded the Obannon German Baptist church in 1795. The Hershey family is also of interest. 1.. A Jacob Hershey & wife were baptized in 1768 by Michael Pfautz and were part of the White Oak Land Congregation in 1770. This is likely Jacob married to Anna Newcomer d/o Wolfgang Newcomer of Leacock Township. Jacob and Anna later became United Brethren. Anna’s brother was United Brethren Bishop, Christian Newcomer. 2.. Christian Newcomer was Mennonite (or maybe German Baptist??) in 1776, where he is on a list of Washington County, MD non-enrollers listed as “Dunkers & Menonist”. Three Good brothers John, Christian and Abraham are on the same list. 3.. Christian Longnecker baptized a John Hershey and Catherine Hershey in 1776. John is also likely Rev. John B. Hershey, who later became a United Brethren Minister in Washington County, MD 4.. Jacob and John Hershey were brothers. One researcher suspects that John B. Hershey was at the 1767 revival at Isaac Long’s barn. Mennonite historians believe John B. Hershey was also a Mennonite minister, and became a United Brethren minister about 1791. 5.. Jacob, John and Catherine Hershey are likely children of Andrew Hershey of Hempfield Township. 6.. Andrew’s son Andrew Jr. is likely the Andrew Hershey in York County, that some claim is the father of Christian Hershey husband of Mary Good. I thought I would pass this info on. May also be of some help in identifying the Stouder’s Dwayne asked about. Bill Thomas

That's very nice to remember, Patrick. Beverly Railey Robinson Sent from my iPad On Nov 7, 2013, at 12:19 AM, James Shuman <jshuman@telis.org> wrote: > On behalf of Patrick McGarry: > > November 5th, 1883, 130 years ago yesterday, my great-great grandparents (on mother's side), Owen Eikenberry (age 24- 1858-1949) and Susan Kreider (age 19- 1864-1955) got married in Darke County, Ohio, by Rev. Silas Gilbert. > > Patrick McGarry <hawkwind275@yahoo.com> > > > _________________________________ > James Shuman, Brethren List co-moderator > jshuman@telis.org > > > > > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On behalf of Patrick McGarry: November 5th, 1883, 130 years ago yesterday, my great-great grandparents (on mother's side), Owen Eikenberry (age 24- 1858-1949) and Susan Kreider (age 19- 1864-1955) got married in Darke County, Ohio, by Rev. Silas Gilbert. Patrick McGarry <hawkwind275@yahoo.com> _________________________________ James Shuman, Brethren List co-moderator jshuman@telis.org

I have a Samuel L. Montgomery born 5/14/1840 Randolph County West Virginia Married Eliza Wolfe. Samuel's father was Price Montgomery b. 1817. Chris Pulver -----Original Message----- From: Roscoe Montgomery Sent: Monday, November 04, 2013 1:02 PM To: BRETHREN@rootsweb.com Subject: [BRE] Samuel W Montgomery Hello, I am seeking ANY primary source document or authentic family record that would support a second spouse of Samuel W Montgomery of Franklin County, born about 1779 in VIRGINIA, and married to Elizabeth Bowman on 30 September 1805 at Franklin County, Virginia. I am not interested in what previously published accounts have had to say about this second spouse, as I have determined they are of nothing more than the purest fantasy and have a single undocumented first “resource" dated 1934 which is completely unsourced and lacks any primary source citations. Roscoe M Montgomery rmont@atlanticbb.net http://BotetourtRoots.org ------------------------ Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN ------------------------ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am related to Stouffer's from Hagerstown and have followed them west. Only other known spelling of last name is Stauffer, not Stouder. Sent from Xfinity Connect Mobile App -----Original Message----- From: captainlaser To: brethren Sent: November 4, 2013 at 6:19 AM Subject: Re: [BRE] Flory, Stouder, and Longenecker Not direct connections in my tree.... Susan Longnecker married second husband Andrew Zug.... Zugs and Flora's are related. My family is related to the Flora's of Flora Indiana who migrated through the Miami Valley in the early 1800's. I also have some Stouffer's from Hagerstown and it is not unreasonable to think Stouders and Stouffer's might be related, but I have not followed any of that family west. Good luck finding closer links. Ray Hoff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Thomas" <wbtst2@atlanticbb.net> To: brethren@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, November 3, 2013 10:47:32 PM Subject: Re: [BRE] Flory, Stouder, and Longenecker Dwayne: No info on these families related to Montgomery County, OH. Bill Thomas -----Original Message----- From: Dwayne Wrightsman Sent: Saturday, November 2, 2013 2:36 PM To: Brethren@rootsweb.com Subject: [BRE] Flory, Stouder, and Longenecker The Flory, Stouder, and Longenecker families were Mennonite neighbors who emigrated from Zweibruecken on the Ship Hope in 1733. All three families settled in Rapho Township, Lancaster County. Members of all three families were baptized Brethren by Michael Frantz in the 1730s and 1740s. Thereafter, the families multiplied and seemed to go their separate ways, but interestingly enough, some of the descendants of the three families converged in the early 1800s in the Miami Valley of Ohio, and they were still Brethren. In the 1850 census for Randolph Township, Montgomery County, Ohio, there were two Stouder orphan boys (Harrison and Isaac) living in the home of Abraham Flory (Henry, Abraham, immigrant Joseph Jr., immigrant Joseph Sr.) Does anyone know about other connections between these three families? Dwayne Wrightsman ------------------------ Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN ------------------------ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------ Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN ------------------------ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------ Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN ------------------------ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Not direct connections in my tree.... Susan Longnecker married second husband Andrew Zug.... Zugs and Flora's are related. My family is related to the Flora's of Flora Indiana who migrated through the Miami Valley in the early 1800's. I also have some Stouffer's from Hagerstown and it is not unreasonable to think Stouders and Stouffer's might be related, but I have not followed any of that family west. Good luck finding closer links. Ray Hoff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Thomas" <wbtst2@atlanticbb.net> To: brethren@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, November 3, 2013 10:47:32 PM Subject: Re: [BRE] Flory, Stouder, and Longenecker Dwayne: No info on these families related to Montgomery County, OH. Bill Thomas -----Original Message----- From: Dwayne Wrightsman Sent: Saturday, November 2, 2013 2:36 PM To: Brethren@rootsweb.com Subject: [BRE] Flory, Stouder, and Longenecker The Flory, Stouder, and Longenecker families were Mennonite neighbors who emigrated from Zweibruecken on the Ship Hope in 1733. All three families settled in Rapho Township, Lancaster County. Members of all three families were baptized Brethren by Michael Frantz in the 1730s and 1740s. Thereafter, the families multiplied and seemed to go their separate ways, but interestingly enough, some of the descendants of the three families converged in the early 1800s in the Miami Valley of Ohio, and they were still Brethren. In the 1850 census for Randolph Township, Montgomery County, Ohio, there were two Stouder orphan boys (Harrison and Isaac) living in the home of Abraham Flory (Henry, Abraham, immigrant Joseph Jr., immigrant Joseph Sr.) Does anyone know about other connections between these three families? Dwayne Wrightsman ------------------------ Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN ------------------------ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------ Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN ------------------------ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, I am seeking ANY primary source document or authentic family record that would support a second spouse of Samuel W Montgomery of Franklin County, born about 1779 in VIRGINIA, and married to Elizabeth Bowman on 30 September 1805 at Franklin County, Virginia. I am not interested in what previously published accounts have had to say about this second spouse, as I have determined they are of nothing more than the purest fantasy and have a single undocumented first “resource" dated 1934 which is completely unsourced and lacks any primary source citations. Roscoe M Montgomery rmont@atlanticbb.net http://BotetourtRoots.org

Greetings. I have previously written to this list requesting info on antebellum physicians among the Brethren, to which I had several interesting responses. Today, I am looking for material on Wesley Newham, a physician from Rockingham County, friend of John Kline, who is buried at Linville Creek. What I am specifically looking for is if someone reading this can connect me to a descendant who may have any personal possessions of Newham. I believe he may have bought medical related material sold at the John Kline estate auction in the Summer of 1864. Any information will be greatly appreciated! © Christopher Christopher Eads 1140 Lincolnshire Dr Harrisonburg VA 22802

Merle, My documented sources say that the Stouders emigrated on the Ship Hope in 1733, not 1773. Christian Sr. was born in 1688, his son Christian Jr. was born in 1723. The family was Mennonite. In 1732, Christian Sr. was deacon of the Mennonite Congregation of 27 Mennonite families of Zweibruechen. Many if not most of the passengers on the Ship Hope in 1733 were Mennonite refugees. In the new world, both Christian Sr. and son Christian Jr. were baptized Brethren by elder Michael Frantz, Christian Sr. was baptized in 1737, and Christian Jr. was baptized in 1741. Christian Jr. had a son John who was born in the mid 1700s. This John Stouder was the one who married Sarah Brown. Christian Jr., son of Christian Sr. and father of John, represents the generation that you left out. Your 40 years gap between 1733 and 1773 for the Ship Hope might explain why you left out Christian Stouder Jr. from the family tree. Dwayne Wrightsman -----Original Message----- From: brethren-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:brethren-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Merle Rummel Sent: Monday, November 04, 2013 11:15 AM To: brethren@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BRE] Flory, Stouder, and Longenecker A Christian Stouder (wife Elizabeeth Mueller) came to Philadelphia in 1773, ship Hope. He died 1792 in Frederick Co MD three known children: Joseph, John and Sarah John Stouder (wife Sarah Brown) lived Cambria Co PA - died 1807 and his wife and children came to Ohio. John, David, and Joseph came to Dayton, Sarah (married Jacob Binkley), William, Christian and Samuel came to the Obannon Church - Clermont Co OH - about 1800. The early Obannon Church log building was located in Stouder Cemetery, just east of Goshen OH. Merle C Rummel

A Christian Stouder (wife Elizabeeth Mueller) came to Philadelphia in 1773, ship Hope. He died 1792 in Frederick Co MD three known children: Joseph, John and Sarah John Stouder (wife Sarah Brown) lived Cambria Co PA - died 1807 and his wife and children came to Ohio. John, David, and Joseph came to Dayton, Sarah (married Jacob Binkley), William, Christian and Samuel came to the Obannon Church - Clermont Co OH - about 1800. The early Obannon Church log building was located in Stouder Cemetery, just east of Goshen OH. Merle C Rummel ---------------------------------------- I am related to Stouffer's from Hagerstown and have followed them west. Only other known spelling of last name is Stauffer, not Stouder. Sent from Xfinity Connect Mobile App Subject: Re: [BRE] Flory, Stouder, and Longenecker Not direct connections in my tree.... Susan Longnecker married second husband Andrew Zug.... Zugs and Flora's are related. My family is related to the Flora's of Flora Indiana who migrated through the Miami Valley in the early 1800's. I also have some Stouffer's from Hagerstown and it is not unreasonable to think Stouders and Stouffer's might be related, but I have not followed any of that family west. Good luck finding closer links. Ray Hoff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Thomas" <wbtst2@atlanticbb.net> To: brethren@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, November 3, 2013 10:47:32 PM Subject: Re: [BRE] Flory, Stouder, and Longenecker Dwayne: No info on these families related to Montgomery County, OH. Bill Thomas -----Original Message----- From: Dwayne Wrightsman Sent: Saturday, November 2, 2013 2:36 PM To: Brethren@rootsweb.com Subject: [BRE] Flory, Stouder, and Longenecker The Flory, Stouder, and Longenecker families were Mennonite neighbors who emigrated from Zweibruecken on the Ship Hope in 1733. All three families settled in Rapho Township, Lancaster County. Members of all three families were baptized Brethren by Michael Frantz in the 1730s and 1740s. Thereafter, the families multiplied and seemed to go their separate ways, but interestingly enough, some of the descendants of the three families converged in the early 1800s in the Miami Valley of Ohio, and they were still Brethren. In the 1850 census for Randolph Township, Montgomery County, Ohio, there were two Stouder orphan boys (Harrison and Isaac) living in the home of Abraham Flory (Henry, Abraham, immigrant Joseph Jr., immigrant Joseph Sr.) Does anyone know about other connections between these three families? Dwayne Wrightsman ------------------------ Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN ------------------------ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------ Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN ------------------------ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------ Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN ------------------------ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------ Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN ------------------------ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There is a substantial intermarriage with the Harter family as well, but this is mostly later in Carroll County, Indiana. The Carroll County name tends to be Flora, which I assume is an alternate to Flory. I find no Harter interaction with the other two names. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dwayne Wrightsman" <dwayne55@comcast.net> To: <Brethren@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2013 1:36 PM Subject: [BRE] Flory, Stouder, and Longenecker > The Flory, Stouder, and Longenecker families were Mennonite neighbors who > emigrated from Zweibruecken on the Ship Hope in 1733. All three families > settled in Rapho Township, Lancaster County. Members of all three > families > were baptized Brethren by Michael Frantz in the 1730s and 1740s. > Thereafter, the families multiplied and seemed to go their separate ways, > but interestingly enough, some of the descendants of the three families > converged in the early 1800s in the Miami Valley of Ohio, and they were > still Brethren. > > > > In the 1850 census for Randolph Township, Montgomery County, Ohio, there > were two Stouder orphan boys (Harrison and Isaac) living in the home of > Abraham Flory (Henry, Abraham, immigrant Joseph Jr., immigrant Joseph Sr.) > > > > Does anyone know about other connections between these three families? > > > > Dwayne Wrightsman > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Dwayne, I have a record of my ancestor Peter Beller selling land to David Longenecker in 1729; 1729 Peter Beller sold land near Strasburg http://ftp.rootsweb.ancestry.com/pub/usgenweb/special/longaker/l5220000.txt Peter Beller to David Longenecker, deed, dated May 29th, 1729, for 250 acres of land in Strasburg Township, PA I believe that there is a Longenecker Cemetery on the land. Do you know of any family connection between the Longeneckers & Bellers? Byron Bowman On Nov 4, 2013, at 9:12 AM, captainlaser@comcast.net wrote: > Not direct connections in my tree.... Susan Longnecker married second husband Andrew Zug.... Zugs and Flora's are related. > > > My family is related to the Flora's of Flora Indiana who migrated through the Miami Valley in the early 1800's. > > > I also have some Stouffer's from Hagerstown and it is not unreasonable to think Stouders and Stouffer's might be related, but I have not followed any of that family west. > > > Good luck finding closer links. > > Ray Hoff > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill Thomas" <wbtst2@atlanticbb.net> > To: brethren@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sunday, November 3, 2013 10:47:32 PM > Subject: Re: [BRE] Flory, Stouder, and Longenecker > > Dwayne: > > No info on these families related to Montgomery County, OH. > > Bill Thomas > -----Original Message----- > From: Dwayne Wrightsman > Sent: Saturday, November 2, 2013 2:36 PM > To: Brethren@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BRE] Flory, Stouder, and Longenecker > > The Flory, Stouder, and Longenecker families were Mennonite neighbors who > emigrated from Zweibruecken on the Ship Hope in 1733. All three families > settled in Rapho Township, Lancaster County. Members of all three families > were baptized Brethren by Michael Frantz in the 1730s and 1740s. > Thereafter, the families multiplied and seemed to go their separate ways, > but interestingly enough, some of the descendants of the three families > converged in the early 1800s in the Miami Valley of Ohio, and they were > still Brethren. > > > > In the 1850 census for Randolph Township, Montgomery County, Ohio, there > were two Stouder orphan boys (Harrison and Isaac) living in the home of > Abraham Flory (Henry, Abraham, immigrant Joseph Jr., immigrant Joseph Sr.) > > > > Does anyone know about other connections between these three families? > > > > Dwayne Wrightsman > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dwayne: No info on these families related to Montgomery County, OH. Bill Thomas -----Original Message----- From: Dwayne Wrightsman Sent: Saturday, November 2, 2013 2:36 PM To: Brethren@rootsweb.com Subject: [BRE] Flory, Stouder, and Longenecker The Flory, Stouder, and Longenecker families were Mennonite neighbors who emigrated from Zweibruecken on the Ship Hope in 1733. All three families settled in Rapho Township, Lancaster County. Members of all three families were baptized Brethren by Michael Frantz in the 1730s and 1740s. Thereafter, the families multiplied and seemed to go their separate ways, but interestingly enough, some of the descendants of the three families converged in the early 1800s in the Miami Valley of Ohio, and they were still Brethren. In the 1850 census for Randolph Township, Montgomery County, Ohio, there were two Stouder orphan boys (Harrison and Isaac) living in the home of Abraham Flory (Henry, Abraham, immigrant Joseph Jr., immigrant Joseph Sr.) Does anyone know about other connections between these three families? Dwayne Wrightsman ------------------------ Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN ------------------------ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The Flory, Stouder, and Longenecker families were Mennonite neighbors who emigrated from Zweibruecken on the Ship Hope in 1733. All three families settled in Rapho Township, Lancaster County. Members of all three families were baptized Brethren by Michael Frantz in the 1730s and 1740s. Thereafter, the families multiplied and seemed to go their separate ways, but interestingly enough, some of the descendants of the three families converged in the early 1800s in the Miami Valley of Ohio, and they were still Brethren. In the 1850 census for Randolph Township, Montgomery County, Ohio, there were two Stouder orphan boys (Harrison and Isaac) living in the home of Abraham Flory (Henry, Abraham, immigrant Joseph Jr., immigrant Joseph Sr.) Does anyone know about other connections between these three families? Dwayne Wrightsman

Thom: So Henry is tied to the Alexander Jr. line. That clears things up. By the way, Abraham Thomas married to Elizabeth Fike, is the son of Michael Thomas and Magdalena Maust. The Abraham Thomas s/o George Thomas & Veronica Seiler, is my ggggrandfather. He was married to Julia Gindlesperger, and both are buried next to my gggrandfather, ggrandfather, and grandfather (and their spouses) in the same row in Blough Mennonite Church Cemetery in Conemaugh Township, Somerset County (it's our family plot). George & Veronica are buried on their farm, also in Conemaugh Township, and not far from Blough Mennonite Church. Bill Thomas -----Original Message----- From: Thom Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 8:13 PM To: brethren@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BRE] Monongalia Co. WVa...Thomas Bill According to my records [much of it unproven by me] the Henry THOMAS and Andrew THOMAS that you reference are first cousins, but on the FIKE side. My 2GGF Henry THOMAS [1826-1910] is the son of Henry THOMAS sr & Rebecca FIKE. Andrew THOMAS is the son of Jacob Michael THOMAS & Mary FIKE. I have ten children for Jacob FEICK & Eve Moyer, and have six of their children marrying THOMASes: ElizabethFIKE +Abraham THOMAS, son of George Henry THOMAS & Veronica SAYLOR JacobFIKE, jr Catherine "Katy" THOMAS, daughter of Alexander THOMAS &Elizabeth MEYER Mary FIKE +JacobMichael THOMAS, son of Michael THOMAS & Magdelena MAUST CatherineFIKE +Jacob A. THOMAS, son of Alexander THOMAS & Elizabeth MEYER Rebecca FIKE+Henry THOMAS, sr, son of Alexander THOMAS & Elizabeth MEYER Abraham FIKE +Mary"Polly" THOMAS, daughter of Alexander THOMAS & Elizabeth MEYER My 3GGF Henry THOMAS is the son of Alexander THOMAS & Elizabeth MEYER. My 4GGF Alexander THOMAS is the son of Alexander THOMAS & Catherine Elizabeth BASHORE. So the Henry and Andrew that you reference are second cousins on the THOMAS side. Thom Flory -----Original Message----- From: Bill Thomas <wbtst2@atlanticbb.net> To: brethren <brethren@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thu, Oct 24, 2013 9:02 pm Subject: Re: [BRE] Monongalia Co. WVa...Thomas Tom: I'm glad you responded to this. You may be able to fill in a blank in my Thomas family tree. Charles Henry Thomas was the son of Henry Thomas and Eliza Kelly. According to the "History of West Virginia, Old & New", Henry was first cousin of Andrew Thomas, father of Rev. Jeremiah Thomas. Andrew was the son of Jacob M. Thomas, a Brethren pastor. Jacob M. Thomas was the son of Michael Thomas and Magdalena Maust. So Henry would need to be a son of one of the brothers of Jacob M. Thomas. My problem is I don't know which brother. Do you have the answer to that? Bill Thomas -----Original Message----- From: Thom Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 7:28 PM To: brethren@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BRE] Monongalia Co. WVa It would take me awhile to dig up the precise info, but the Civil War Pension file of my 2GGF Andrew Jackson GLOVER had a number of affidavits with addresses at iron works in Monongalia and also ironworks in PA. My recollection is that one or more of these affidavits were from my GGF Charles Henry Thomas [his son-in-law, but not identified as such]. I kept saying to myself "I never knew they lived there [the iron works]". Andrew Jackson GLOVER is buried at Keeler Glade Cemetery in Garrett Co, MD, but Keeler Glade Church [which I think (not sure) is Brethren] is a hundred yards or more away at the foot of the hill and is in Preston Co, WV. My GGPs Charles THOMAS & Sciota "Sally" GLOVER are buried at Shady Grove Cemetery in Preston and that is definitely Brethren. Thomas Flory -----Original Message----- From: Christine <cwelch@neo.rr.com> To: BRETHREN-L <BRETHREN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, Oct 23, 2013 8:58 pm Subject: [BRE] Monongalia Co. WVa I don't post here too often as I have not been able to prove that my ancestors were Brethren but I suspect that some were. I also know that they were following the iron ore furnace work from the 1820's or so onward. They were in the northern Shenandoah Valley in the early 1800's. Eventually coming into Monongalia Co along the Cheat River. Do any of you know much about others who were in this area, who were doing the same? Thank you Christine in NE Ohio ------------------------ Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN ------------------------ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------ Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN ------------------------ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------ Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN ------------------------ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------ Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN ------------------------ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message