A map in the book, "Indiana to 1816," by Barnhart and Riker, shows this strip or "gore" of land (plus parts of Ohio and Switzerland Counties) was not part of the treaties with the Indians that Governor Harrison effected from 1803-1809. Most of northern Indiana was acquired later, but I suspect this land was sold as part of Ohio. *************** An Early History of Indiana!!! The Greeneville Treaty (1797) named as "Indiana Territory" (Indian territory) everything west of the Great Miami River (Cincinnati to Dayton to Lake St Marys). It named the western Treaty Line as going from Fort Recovery (north of Greeneville OH) on an angle to the mouth of the Kentucky River (on the Ohio R), or about 10 miles east of Madison IN (at that point at the River, the county line of Switzerland Co IN). This passes almost directly through Richmond IN and south along the Whitewater River through Wayne (eventually Union) and Franklin Cos, to be the western edge of Dearborn and Ohio Counties. -The Ohio State Line (1803), went due north from the mouth of the Great Miami River, west side of now Cincinnati). -This section of land west of the Ohio State Line to the Greeneville Treaty Line was called "The Gore". For the Four Mile Church (including most of the children of Elder Jacob Miller - 1805-6), we were mostly just over the Ohio State line, in "the Gore". Survey of this land was 1803-1805. This made most of our settlement in Indiana Territory. -John Gaby and Susannah Gaby Fiant (husband Daniel Fiant) (younger children of Elder Martin Gaby of the Oley Church, earliest Pennsylvania) came in 1802 (before the Survey) and settled on the west bank of the Whitewater river NW of now Liberty IN (Yankeetown - West of the Treaty Line - thus, they were "squatters" - not legal settlers) - where the Delaware Indian Road forded the river (Ft Hamilton OH - to Chief Muncy's Town - Muncie IN). They built a first mill there. This was some 10 miles west of where the Miller families settled on Four Mile Creek. [The Gaby Fiant families later moved some 5 miles west, into Fayette Co (north of Springerville IN) - with their own stories -even a Real Ghost.] (see a paper on these settlements - "The Virginia Colony" - on-line at the Union County Library - Liberty IN) We were considered simply the western limit of the western Ohio Brethren settlements. In our 1809 founding, the Four Mile Church was the 4th Brethren church north of the Ohio River (Obannon Creek, 1797 - east of Cincinnati; Lower Miami, 1805 - west edge of Dayton; Twin Creek; 1808 - northern Preble Co OH) (not considering the Brush Creek settlement in Highland Co OH - John Countryman - sometime after 1805). About this time, John Conner founded Conner's Trading Post at now Connersville IN. (John, with his brother, William, were traders for the Delaware Indians on the White River [Muncie-Anderson IN] - and founded the Delaware Indian Road - William built "Conners Prairie" - State Historical Center north of Indianapolis). Tecumseh's Warriors used the Delaware Indian Road (but the Delaware Indians refused to allow them to pass as "Warriors"). [The Delaware Indians here were Moravian Christian converts, survivors from the Massacre of Schoenbrunn Village - NE Ohio, Revolution.] -A road from Dayton OH, through Eaton, went to Conner's Trading Post (going through Boston IN - where I live - one mile from the Ohio State Line) - this was followed by Elder Jacob Miller as he came to visit his children here on the Four Mile (south of Boston). -About this same time, the extension of the Kanawha Trace brought the Quakers from North Carolina to Richmond (have a Way Bill - 1809) - going from New Garden NC, across West Virginia and Ohio, through Eaton OH to Richmond IN - almost certainly by way of Boston (not named - too early for a name - 1-2 settlers). -Another early road (the earliest) was the Army Road from Ft Greeneville to Ft Vincennes - also going through now Richmond. (Ft Greeneville closed about 1800 - so this was EARLY - and there was considerable traffic on it - if iron clad wheels that cut an inch or so into bed rock in Martin Co IN is the actual Ft Greeneville Ft Vincennes Army Road [on the top of the hill back of our farm at the old "Sampson Hill Church of the Brethren", near Shoals IN (Lacy), where Dad pastored].) The Army Road was almost certainly the cause of the location of the first County Seat of Wayne Co IN - at Salisbury (1810) - SW of Richmond. -The Eaton Salisbury Road also went through Boston. Governor William Henry Harrison (later President) "reviewed the troops" at Boston [NAMED!] in 1811 (actually west of here, on the Eaton Salisbury Road (at the Strait Line Pike, south of Richmond). He had come from Ft Vincennes on the Army Road. This area must be considered an active frontier settlement - long before the National Road (1828) came through. Richmond IN actually grew, because it was the terminus of the National Road from 1828 till 1835, until they finally crossed the "Whitewater River Gorge" in Richmond to go on to St Louis - on the Mississippi River. The 12 Mile Purchase (1809) paralleled the Greeneville Treaty Line - 12 miles west. It went through the eastern edge of Hagerstown IN. The Nettle Creek Church (1822) was formed there on the Delaware Indian Road - west of the Treaty Line (uh-oh - squatters), in the lovely Nettle Creek valley west of town. -It was about this time that several of the Elder Jacob Miller grandchildren (and their parents) moved to the lower "Wabash Country" in Parke and Putnam Cos - western Indiana. This is where the Raccoon Creek Church was founded by Elder William R Smith. -It was from Nettle Creek, that the two youngest sons of Elder Jacob Miller went on to near South Bend Indiana in 1829 - the Portage Prairie Church. -And it was following the 1832 Cholera Epidemic that a major migration of Four Mile and Dayton area young families moved to "Wabash Country" of Peru, Kokomo and Flora IN, with the formation of several early Brethren Churches in that region. -Indiana was opening to settlement, as the Indians were removed. Merle C Rummel

The book Indiana Place Names by Baker and Carmony, which lists old communities, lists only Dearborn County for "Dearborn." Dearborn County is west and slightly north of Cincinnatti and thus just west of some of the land William Smith was otherwise buying in OH. It was not unusual for Ohio residents to buy land in Indiana through the Cincinnatti (and maybe other) land office(s) during that time period, though it may have been more frequently land that had just opened up, farther north. Sharon Mills ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wayne Webb" <SpiWebb@aol.com> To: brethren@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2013 9:43:51 AM Subject: [BRE] Elder William Smith of Virginia, Ohio(?) and Indiana Morning List, Some years ago I was involved in a discussion regarding this early minister and elder who eventually was an elder at the Ladoga group of churches in Indiana. Many have stated that his middle name was "Rose" with no documentary evidence offered. Here is what we do in basis. According to Brethren historical reference he is purported to have been born in England and raised to the ministry while residing in the greater area of Franklin county, Virginia. This was while Elder Jacob Miller, later the eminent minister and elder of the Lower Miami congregation of southwestern Ohio. This morning while checking my estate records of Montgomery county, Ohio, I found something interesting. In one of them a William M. Smith was a witness to an administration bond for which Elder Daniel Miller (1755-1822) was one of the administrators. This was in the early 1810s and the deceased's name shall remain nameless. Needless to say, all the people within the estate, as well as to whom the decedent had sold large plats of land to, were almost entirely Brethren. And the community was Brethren as well. Interestingly I find in the same estate a reference to a Peter Smith whom memory seems to indicate was the hedge doctor who eventually would move to the Champaign and Clarke counties region of Ohio. There is also a Jacob Smith mentioned. So, seeing as we have a William Smith involved in a member of the Lower Miami congregation with Elder Daniel Smith, and the congregation early on having members as many as ten miles or more removed from the physical meeting house of later years, I decided to do some further digging. For people researching in Montgomery county, Ohio, or for that matter for the whole of the southwestern regions of Ohio, a must have is the book "Early Ohio Settlers: Purchasers of Land in Southwestern Ohio, 1800-1840," (Baltimore, Md.: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1986) by Ellen T. Berry and David A. Berry. In looking at the referenced work it is found that a William M. Smith, a William P. Smith and numerous William Smiths are recorded as having been in Montgomery and Preble counties of Ohio, and in Indiana as well. The aforementioned estate clearly shows the signature of William M. Smith and if this is the same William M. Smith as referenced in the Beery work, then he eventually, after June of 1811, would obtain land in Butler, Wayne, Mad River townships, Montgomery county, Ohio. A William P. Smith on the other hand, as a resident of Montgomery county in 1809, was obtaining land of the government for what would become Preble county. This same William P. Smith, but listed as William Smith, was also obtaining land other land in Preble county. Some of these "William Smith" records are definitely for Indiana as they state he was a resident of Dearborn, Indiana. This Dearborn is more a geographical reference than an actual place. Others can probably explain the Dearborn item better than I. The point is that we have no documentation that Elder William Smith of the German Baptist Brethren church had a middle initial. However, and taking into account his long-held affiliation with Elder Jacob Miller of the Lower Miami congregation, could it be that Elder Smith was in Montgomery county, Ohio? Just because a deed is recorded in one state (1823) does not necessarily mean that the individual was living there. This has been proven to be the case when discussing Elder Miller and his land in Virginia. Agreed this disagrees with the thought that Elder Smith did not move to Indiana until the mid-1820s. I'm just throwing this out there. <grin> Cordially, A. Wayne Webb Historian: German Baptist Brethren Church Past Editor: Brethren Roots Site developer: German Baptist Brethren Books <http://books.brethrenarchives.com> Site developer: German Baptist Brethren Ministers <http://mincon.brethrenarchives.com/> & Congregations Site developer: German Baptist Brethren Almanacs, <http://books1.brethrenarchives.com/> Annuals & Yearbooks Site developer: German Baptist Brethren Offerings <http://offering.brethrenarchives.com/> In other words: Chief Bottle Washer and Cook ------------------------ Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN ------------------------ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The area where Dearborn is now was originally the "Gore" in Indiana Territory. Then the Gore became Dearborn and now is Wayne, Union, and Dearborn Counties. As far as I know of all records of the original Dearborn County are still located in Dearborn County. Thanks, Dave In a message dated 12/22/2013 1:18:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, s.m.mills@comcast.net writes: The book Indiana Place Names by Baker and Carmony, which lists old communities, lists only Dearborn County for "Dearborn." Dearborn County is west and slightly north of Cincinnatti and thus just west of some of the land William Smith was otherwise buying in OH. It was not unusual for Ohio residents to buy land in Indiana through the Cincinnatti (and maybe other) land office(s) during that time period, though it may have been more frequently land that had just opened up, farther north. Sharon Mills ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wayne Webb" <SpiWebb@aol.com> To: brethren@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2013 9:43:51 AM Subject: [BRE] Elder William Smith of Virginia, Ohio(?) and Indiana Morning List, Some years ago I was involved in a discussion regarding this early minister and elder who eventually was an elder at the Ladoga group of churches in Indiana. Many have stated that his middle name was "Rose" with no documentary evidence offered. Here is what we do in basis. According to Brethren historical reference he is purported to have been born in England and raised to the ministry while residing in the greater area of Franklin county, Virginia. This was while Elder Jacob Miller, later the eminent minister and elder of the Lower Miami congregation of southwestern Ohio. This morning while checking my estate records of Montgomery county, Ohio, I found something interesting. In one of them a William M. Smith was a witness to an administration bond for which Elder Daniel Miller (1755-1822) was one of the administrators. This was in the early 1810s and the deceased's name shall remain nameless. Needless to say, all the people within the estate, as well as to whom the decedent had sold large plats of land to, were almost entirely Brethren. And the community was Brethren as well. Interestingly I find in the same estate a reference to a Peter Smith whom memory seems to indicate was the hedge doctor who eventually would move to the Champaign and Clarke counties region of Ohio. There is also a Jacob Smith mentioned. So, seeing as we have a William Smith involved in a member of the Lower Miami congregation with Elder Daniel Smith, and the congregation early on having members as many as ten miles or more removed from the physical meeting house of later years, I decided to do some further digging. For people researching in Montgomery county, Ohio, or for that matter for the whole of the southwestern regions of Ohio, a must have is the book "Early Ohio Settlers: Purchasers of Land in Southwestern Ohio, 1800-1840," (Baltimore, Md.: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1986) by Ellen T. Berry and David A. Berry. In looking at the referenced work it is found that a William M. Smith, a William P. Smith and numerous William Smiths are recorded as having been in Montgomery and Preble counties of Ohio, and in Indiana as well. The aforementioned estate clearly shows the signature of William M. Smith and if this is the same William M. Smith as referenced in the Beery work, then he eventually, after June of 1811, would obtain land in Butler, Wayne, Mad River townships, Montgomery county, Ohio. A William P. Smith on the other hand, as a resident of Montgomery county in 1809, was obtaining land of the government for what would become Preble county. This same William P. Smith, but listed as William Smith, was also obtaining land other land in Preble county. Some of these "William Smith" records are definitely for Indiana as they state he was a resident of Dearborn, Indiana. This Dearborn is more a geographical reference than an actual place. Others can probably explain the Dearborn item better than I. The point is that we have no documentation that Elder William Smith of the German Baptist Brethren church had a middle initial. However, and taking into account his long-held affiliation with Elder Jacob Miller of the Lower Miami congregation, could it be that Elder Smith was in Montgomery county, Ohio? Just because a deed is recorded in one state (1823) does not necessarily mean that the individual was living there. This has been proven to be the case when discussing Elder Miller and his land in Virginia. Agreed this disagrees with the thought that Elder Smith did not move to Indiana until the mid-1820s. I'm just throwing this out there. <grin> Cordially, A. Wayne Webb Historian: German Baptist Brethren Church Past Editor: Brethren Roots Site developer: German Baptist Brethren Books <http://books.brethrenarchives.com> Site developer: German Baptist Brethren Ministers <http://mincon.brethrenarchives.com/> & Congregations Site developer: German Baptist Brethren Almanacs, <http://books1.brethrenarchives.com/> Annuals & Yearbooks Site developer: German Baptist Brethren Offerings <http://offering.brethrenarchives.com/> In other words: Chief Bottle Washer and Cook ------------------------ Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN ------------------------ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------ Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN ------------------------ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

From: "Wayne Webb" <SpiWebb@aol.com> Some years ago I was involved in a discussion regarding this early minister and elder who eventually was an elder at the Ladoga group of churches in Indiana. Many have stated that his middle name was "Rose" with no documentary evidence offered. ************* as usual - you don't seem to read information sent to you - yes, and you refused the publication of our paper on him - which included most of this information Janie Smith, a descendent of William Rose Smith, founding Elder of the Ladoga Church, Putnam Co IN presented considerable information about her ancestor - from this, she and I determined that this man was the William Smith of Franklin Co VA the associate - the "English Preacher" - with Elder Jacob Miller William Smith was ordained to the eldership by Elder Jacob Miller - in Franklin Co VA of William Rose Smith 1 - his children were born in Franklin Co VA - with dates appropriate most of them moved to Putnam Co IN - some directly from Franklin Co VA 2 - he first moved to then, Franklin Co IN (now Union Co IN) - possibly about 1812 - earlier or possibly later [we have identified no land purchases in Union Co to this William Smith - there was another William Smith here also] [Janie found 4 different William Smiths - in Franklin Co VA] [except for the 1823 sale of a property in Franklin Co Va - no one has been able to identify him there after 1815] 3 - his wife, Nancy Henderson, was the full sister of Sally Henderson, wife of Tobias Miller and half sister to Phoebe McClure, wife of Potter John Miller (both sons of Elder Jacob Miller) and to Isabella McClure, wife of William Crawford (best friend of Potter John Miller - living here) 4 - the move to Indiana could easily have been congruent to that of Tobias Miller (1809) (after Tobias cleared up the inheritance of Sally from her father - a number of slaves - freed) 5 - a William Smith is named as witness at the settlement of Elder Jacob Miller's estate (1815 - book by Patricia Johnson) [since most of Elder Jacob's children lived here on the Four Mile - William Smith probably went over to Dayton with them] 5 - the move to Putnam Co IN was a few years later, about 1825 probably connected to the migration there of a number of families from the Four Mile [the conflict with deacon, Jacob Ronk, came a year or two later - over disagreement of accepted Brethren Procedure -it called out Elders from Virginia, who removed William Smith from Eldership - and resulted in his death -corresponds to the 1811 Conference which attacked Elder Jacob Miller -on which you did some research] 6 - deeds at Vincennes IN, on the original purchase, and other local information include the name: Wm R Miller and states that he is from Union Co IN (his move is after the formation of Union Co - 1822) 7 - the information in Otho Winger's History of the Brethren in Indiana - on Ladoga names the founding Elder as William R Smith - but mistakenly says he is from Darke Co OH 8 - the submitter of the Ladoga information to Otho Winger - was Elder William Rose Harshbarger who was born soon after the death of William Rose Smith I am sure that there are many William Smiths - just don't confuse this one Merle C Rummel

My Grandfather, William H. Hendricks, Jr., made the OK Land rush in 1893, he came by horse back and walking from Bancroft, Daviess Co., MO. After he staked his land, and I don't know the exact time, he set aside several acres for a school. He settled in Blaine Co, OK, and the one room school house was built. He taught at one time, and then they got teachers to come, they would live with a family for one month, and then move on to the next family, during the school sessions. We had all years from first to twelve. Yes, there was a pot belly stove, and few books. The older kids kept the fire going, and cleaned the school and school yard. ***************************** Did you trace your Hendricks on back? Here's what I have found - (my Kentucky Research "Frontier Brethren" - I did not trace beyond the generation that moved out of Kentucky - so just have the name of William H Hendricks) - and I'm not affirming the validity of all the data Merle C Rummel ****************************** William H Hendircks (1836-1918) m. 1865, Martha A Henwood moved to Cedardale OK son of Abraham Hendricks - Jane Cox Abraham F HENDRICKS m. 1820 Jane COX b. 20 May 1801 Warren Co KY b. 10 July 1800 Buncombe Co NC d. 1 Dec 1869, Bancroft, Daviess Co MO d. 20 Dec 1888 Bancroft MO bur: Hill Cemetery bur: Hill Cemetery f. John Hendricks f. ?William Cox/?Amos Cox m. Fanny Welty ch: Eli N (1820-1903) m. 1842, Nancy Lierley Gilman City MO Josiah (1822- m. 1847, Catherine Stroder Pike Co IL Peninah (1825-1895) m. Wm R Lierley Liberty IL Minerva (1827-1908) m. 1846, Alonzo Chaplin Edgerton KS Muhulda (1830-c1910) Platt Co MO John R (1832-1899) m. 1855, Jane A Nichols Coffey MO William H (1836-1918) m. 1865, Martha A Henwood Cedardale OK James F (1838-1881) m. 1865, Emily J Thompson Daviess Co MO Sarah J (1841-c1910) m. 1864, John W Johnson Harvey Co KS Abraham D (1844-1933) m. 1870, Harriett B Wherritt Watertown NY 2 Inf c1826 - Cape Girardeau Mo to Adams Co IL John HENDRICKS m. Jane Frena WELTY (Fanny) b. 1746 York Co PA b. 1764 York Co PA d. 13 Apr 1814 Warren Co KY d. 13 Sep 1850 Pike Co IL bur: Family Cem - Sulfur Fork Creek f. John Hendricks f. Abraham Welty m. Francis m. Magdalina Gochnower ch: Catherine (1786-1810) m. 1802, Charles Lloyd Warren Co KY James (1788-1844) m. 1809, Catherine Carlock Cape Girardeau Co MO Mary (1790-1857) m. 1807, Daniel Welty Wayne Co OH Christiana (1792- m. Jesse Langston John C (1794- m. Mary Adams Co IL Rachel (c1797- m. Henry Pierce Elizabeth (c1799-1848) m. 1830, Isaac Miller Cape Girardeau Co MO William (c1799- m. 1833, Elizabeth Shell Sangamon Co IL Abraham (1801-1869) m. 1820, Jane Cox Daviess Co MO Henry (1804-1850) m. 1830, Hester Lee Liberty IL Daniel (1807-1882) 1/m Mary S Crouse 2/m 1830, Catherine Miller Carthage MO Brethren Elder, "Eternal Restorationist" (Pietism) 1786 - to Newberry Co SC - with family 1791 - to Forks of the Yadkin c1795 - John Jr - born Roanoke Settlement 1799 - to Drakes Creek, Warren Co KY - on Lick Branch (later becomes Simpson Co KY) 1800 - ordained Elder by Gaspar Rowland (with Joseph Rowland) Died -Kaskaskia IL - trip per migration to Whitewater, Cape Girardeau - Upper Louisiana (Picture - on Lick Creek Church - see "Brethren Migrations" presentation - www.cob-net.org/docs/brethrenlife.htm) John HENDRICKS Sr m. Francis ch: Joseph Tobias Benjamin Henry David Amos William Abraham Frederick Philip John (1746-1814) m. Fanny Welty Pike Co IL Possible brother of James Hendricks [1770 - James Hendricks - minister of the Little Conewago Congregation -York Co PA (Morgan Edwards)] [1775 - James Hendricks - wheelwright -Dutchmans Creek/Forks of the Yadkin -Rowan County NC ] 1779 - to Forks of the Yadkin 1786 - to South Carolina (Newberry Co?) - Saluda River area other source - have father of James and John as Henry Hendricks (not sure whether "South Henry" or "North Henry") Henry Hendricks (1700-1786) (son of Tobias b1670) Ch: James (1729- Tobias (1732- David (1734- John (1736- Mary (1737- Henry (1738- Joan (1729- George (1741- Susannah (1742-

Nice story! Were your Hendricks in Somerset Co, PA before heading west? Beverly Sent from my iPad On Dec 21, 2013, at 10:08 PM, BDunquez@aol.com wrote: > My Grandfather, William H. Hendricks, Jr., made the OK Land rush in 1893, > he came by horse back and walking from Bancroft, Daviess Co., MO. After > he staked his land, and I don't know the exact time, he set aside several > acres for a school. He settled in Blaine Co, OK, and the one room school > house was built. He taught at one time, and then they got teachers to come, > they would live with a family for one month, and then move on to the next > family, during the school sessions. We had all years from first to twelve. > Yes, there was a pot belly stove, and few books. The older kids kept the > fire going, and cleaned the school and school yard. > > In 1936 I started school and attended for a couple of years, at which time > the County started bussing the children to school. We moved to Galveston, > TX in 1941, I still have pictures of the school and the children that > attended. And, we still own the farm in Oklahoma. > > When I started tracing my family, I learned that my Great grandfather, > William H. Hendricks, Sr. taught school in Daviess Co, Missouri. In the early > 1930's he and some of his family moved to Oklahoma. > > My daughter is now the principle of an elementary school in Galveston. It > must have been in the Hendricks blood. > > Betty > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Morning List, Some years ago I was involved in a discussion regarding this early minister and elder who eventually was an elder at the Ladoga group of churches in Indiana. Many have stated that his middle name was "Rose" with no documentary evidence offered. Here is what we do in basis. According to Brethren historical reference he is purported to have been born in England and raised to the ministry while residing in the greater area of Franklin county, Virginia. This was while Elder Jacob Miller, later the eminent minister and elder of the Lower Miami congregation of southwestern Ohio. This morning while checking my estate records of Montgomery county, Ohio, I found something interesting. In one of them a William M. Smith was a witness to an administration bond for which Elder Daniel Miller (1755-1822) was one of the administrators. This was in the early 1810s and the deceased's name shall remain nameless. Needless to say, all the people within the estate, as well as to whom the decedent had sold large plats of land to, were almost entirely Brethren. And the community was Brethren as well. Interestingly I find in the same estate a reference to a Peter Smith whom memory seems to indicate was the hedge doctor who eventually would move to the Champaign and Clarke counties region of Ohio. There is also a Jacob Smith mentioned. So, seeing as we have a William Smith involved in a member of the Lower Miami congregation with Elder Daniel Smith, and the congregation early on having members as many as ten miles or more removed from the physical meeting house of later years, I decided to do some further digging. For people researching in Montgomery county, Ohio, or for that matter for the whole of the southwestern regions of Ohio, a must have is the book "Early Ohio Settlers: Purchasers of Land in Southwestern Ohio, 1800-1840," (Baltimore, Md.: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1986) by Ellen T. Berry and David A. Berry. In looking at the referenced work it is found that a William M. Smith, a William P. Smith and numerous William Smiths are recorded as having been in Montgomery and Preble counties of Ohio, and in Indiana as well. The aforementioned estate clearly shows the signature of William M. Smith and if this is the same William M. Smith as referenced in the Beery work, then he eventually, after June of 1811, would obtain land in Butler, Wayne, Mad River townships, Montgomery county, Ohio. A William P. Smith on the other hand, as a resident of Montgomery county in 1809, was obtaining land of the government for what would become Preble county. This same William P. Smith, but listed as William Smith, was also obtaining land other land in Preble county. Some of these "William Smith" records are definitely for Indiana as they state he was a resident of Dearborn, Indiana. This Dearborn is more a geographical reference than an actual place. Others can probably explain the Dearborn item better than I. The point is that we have no documentation that Elder William Smith of the German Baptist Brethren church had a middle initial. However, and taking into account his long-held affiliation with Elder Jacob Miller of the Lower Miami congregation, could it be that Elder Smith was in Montgomery county, Ohio? Just because a deed is recorded in one state (1823) does not necessarily mean that the individual was living there. This has been proven to be the case when discussing Elder Miller and his land in Virginia. Agreed this disagrees with the thought that Elder Smith did not move to Indiana until the mid-1820s. I'm just throwing this out there. <grin> Cordially, A. Wayne Webb Historian: German Baptist Brethren Church Past Editor: Brethren Roots Site developer: German Baptist Brethren Books <http://books.brethrenarchives.com> Site developer: German Baptist Brethren Ministers <http://mincon.brethrenarchives.com/> & Congregations Site developer: German Baptist Brethren Almanacs, <http://books1.brethrenarchives.com/> Annuals & Yearbooks Site developer: German Baptist Brethren Offerings <http://offering.brethrenarchives.com/> In other words: Chief Bottle Washer and Cook

My Grandfather, William H. Hendricks, Jr., made the OK Land rush in 1893, he came by horse back and walking from Bancroft, Daviess Co., MO. After he staked his land, and I don't know the exact time, he set aside several acres for a school. He settled in Blaine Co, OK, and the one room school house was built. He taught at one time, and then they got teachers to come, they would live with a family for one month, and then move on to the next family, during the school sessions. We had all years from first to twelve. Yes, there was a pot belly stove, and few books. The older kids kept the fire going, and cleaned the school and school yard. In 1936 I started school and attended for a couple of years, at which time the County started bussing the children to school. We moved to Galveston, TX in 1941, I still have pictures of the school and the children that attended. And, we still own the farm in Oklahoma. When I started tracing my family, I learned that my Great grandfather, William H. Hendricks, Sr. taught school in Daviess Co, Missouri. In the early 1930's he and some of his family moved to Oklahoma. My daughter is now the principle of an elementary school in Galveston. It must have been in the Hendricks blood. Betty

Merle, In Dec 1955, my parents moved from Dearborn, Michigan, to a farm in rural Washtenaw County, Michigan, so my father could be closer to his job. I was 11 years old and it was a shock going to a one-room school. It had all grades from 1st-7th. I was there for 2 yrs, then went by bus to town to a junior high school for 8th-9th and finally a high school for 10th-12th. Yes, we played where the ball was thrown over the roof of the school. One side had a small baseball area and can still remember the windows on that side of the building having metal grates so the windows didn't get broken. There were two toilets, boys and girls and across the hall from them was the furnace room where you were taken to be punished. I made it there once but because I was from the city wasn't punished. Still I had to watch the other boy being punished. Never had to go there again that's for sure. Then they closed down the rural schools sometime in late 60s, early 70s. We lived about half a mile from the school with a big hill in between. On the hill was our nearest neighbor next to the school. One Sunday morning in mid 80s, I think it was, the neighbor called and said the "volunteer" fire department was burning the old school down. I grabbed my camera and walked to there and watched them burn it. They spent most of the day doing that as they would get it going and then put it out, etc. for training. There was only the chief and maybe 2 others on salary with the rest being "volunteers", when in actual fact the "volunteers" were paid for each fire they were called out for. If you needed a house or barn burned you called them and they would do it for "free" for the practice. The school sat on half acre that was donated to the school district with the septic field on the neighbors property so that no one could build a house in place of the school. That's about all I remember of my time in the one-room school. Eric Blocher Sorry, when I clicked on reply this was sent to Bob Harter by mistake.

I attended a one room school 1948-1955 in Manheim Townsship in York Co., PA I had some of the best and some of the worst experiences in that setting. With resources and the dedication, education, and awareness of teachers who were my colleagues while I taught 1964-2002, a one-room school could be a perfect experience. Carol -----Original Message----- From: Bob Harter <rharter36@myfairpoint.net> To: cliff <cliff@nwwnet.net>; brethren <brethren@rootsweb.com> Sent: Fri, Dec 20, 2013 3:42 pm Subject: Re: [BRE] IN SCHOOL FIFTY-FIVE YEARS AGO Merle, by the time I started school (1942) the one room schools were gone in Darke County (Ohio). I did take the first 2.5 years in a three room school, though - Washington Township School. I am not certain, but I believe that was the smallest school remaining in the county by the 1940s. I am not sure about Dad and never thought to ask him, but Mom did attend a one room school - Baker. Mom's father taught in a one room school for three years and would have liked to continue in that profession, but he wanted to get married and could not support a wife on a teacher's salary, so he quit and started farming. Bob Harter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Merle Rummel" <cliff@nwwnet.net> To: <brethren@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 2:03 PM Subject: Re: [BRE] IN SCHOOL FIFTY-FIVE YEARS AGO > How many of you did attend a One-Room Country School? > ------------------------ Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN ------------------------ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My great Aunt Bernadine Gooding Kramer taught in a one room school house in Daviess County, Missouri. The Liberty School was across the road from her farm (that of my great grandparents) and she taught both my mother Dolores and her brother Jack Gooding there:) We all descend from Brethren, many of whom are buried in that county. Diane Kerchner On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Bob Harter <rharter36@myfairpoint.net>wrote: > Merle, by the time I started school (1942) the one room schools were gone > in > Darke County (Ohio). I did take the first 2.5 years in a three room school, > though - Washington Township School. I am not certain, but I believe that > was the smallest school remaining in the county by the 1940s. I am not sure > about Dad and never thought to ask him, but Mom did attend a one room > school - Baker. Mom's father taught in a one room school for three years > and > would have liked to continue in that profession, but he wanted to get > married and could not support a wife on a teacher's salary, so he quit and > started farming. > > Bob Harter > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Merle Rummel" <cliff@nwwnet.net> > To: <brethren@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 2:03 PM > Subject: Re: [BRE] IN SCHOOL FIFTY-FIVE YEARS AGO > > > > How many of you did attend a One-Room Country School? > > > > > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Merle, by the time I started school (1942) the one room schools were gone in Darke County (Ohio). I did take the first 2.5 years in a three room school, though - Washington Township School. I am not certain, but I believe that was the smallest school remaining in the county by the 1940s. I am not sure about Dad and never thought to ask him, but Mom did attend a one room school - Baker. Mom's father taught in a one room school for three years and would have liked to continue in that profession, but he wanted to get married and could not support a wife on a teacher's salary, so he quit and started farming. Bob Harter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Merle Rummel" <cliff@nwwnet.net> To: <brethren@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 2:03 PM Subject: Re: [BRE] IN SCHOOL FIFTY-FIVE YEARS AGO > How many of you did attend a One-Room Country School? >

How many of you did attend a One-Room Country School? I did - in southern Indiana - had 2 years in one - it wasn't quite this bad - but (1946-47-48) we had only one volume of an encyclopedia set (happened to be the right one - to prove my brother correct - against the teacher) I sat on the wall, next a window - the "Warm-Morning" Heater was in the center of the school - I wore my winter coat, at my desk. One big boy in 7th grade (Name - Jim Way) lived adjacent - he started the fire each morning - and swept up each evening. Drinking Water was carried in from the pump out front (mostly by Jim Way) - each of us had our own tin-cup. A dipper hung overhead, for us to fill our cups. I had come in from Missouri - a consolidated school - I was so far ahead of the other boy in the 6th grade, that the teacher advanced me to 7th grade, and put him back into the 5th grade - to save her teaching (no 8th graders) I spent much time, helping with reading and math to the lowest grade students (1st/2nd/3rd) - while the teacher was holding recital for other classes. We played "Antni-Over" - tossed a rubber ball over the school roof - to a team on the other side - the catcher then raced around and threw the ball at someone on the other side of the school - to make them switch sides. I threw too hard, and hit one little girl on the ear - she hurt. (Teacher jumped my case!) We had a "Whirl-Go-Round" - a 2-10 plank (actually one more of the teeter-totters) - with handles and seat at each end, on an car wheel in the center. We ran and spun it, with someone on each end, as they "hung on". Yes, occasionally, someone got hurt. We did play soft-ball - league of schools - we won! - our right out-field was cut by a stream - couldn't hit over it; our left out-field was cut by a US Highway - couldn't hit over it. Our second base girl - used a catchers mitt - and let nothing get past her. The team we beat for the championship had their ball-field on top a hill, and it dropped off behind 2nd base - playing in the outfield we could not see beyond 2nd base - or the hit ball - till the 2nd base girl called out to the field and told us where to look for it to be coming. Our house was at the foot of Sampson Hill - on US150 - the bus could not stop there for us (up or down) - we had to walk down a quarter mile, where it picked up 2-3 families of children - at a natural spring. shall I go on? - that was Over 55 years ago! Merry Christmas Merle C Rummel ---------------------------------------- The Gospel Messenger Mach 23, 1907 page 182 Vol. 46 No. IN SCHOOL FIFTY-FIVE YEARS AGO. By J. F. Neher. It is interesting to note the changes that have come in a half a century or over. Fifty-five years ago I had my first experience in school. The schoolhouse was built of logs. The benches had no backs and were made of slabs by boring holes in each end; into these the legs were inserted. On one side the house one log was cut out and along window put in to give light to a long table, which was made by boring holes into the low below the window; into these long pins were driven, on which a broad board was fastened, which served as a writing table. The reach was the father of a large family living near the schoolhouse. The rod was frequently used, but mostly severely on his own children. He taught German and English, and a variety of text-books was used. One the higher classes recited their lesson from the Old Testament, another from the New Testament. One, a brother's son, had for his text-book Brother Peter Nead's book; and still another recited his lesson from a old German hymn book. Other thins might be mentioned that would seem odd to the student or schoolboy of to-day; but I believe if the use of the Bible had been retained, the masses to-day would have a better knowledge of the Good Book. Guthrie, Okla.

I found the post on the school of 1852 very interesting. As a former teacher, I appreciate my early colleagues and the hardships they went through to educate the pioneer youth. Debbie

The Gospel Messenger Mach 23, 1907 page 182 Vol. 46 No. IN SCHOOL FIFTY-FIVE YEARS AGO. By J. F. Neher. It is interesting to note the changes that have come in a half a century or over. Fifty-five years ago I had my first experience in school. The schoolhouse was built of logs. The benches had no backs and were made of slabs by boring holes in each end; into these the legs were inserted. On one side the house one log was cut out and along window put in to give light to a long table, which was made by boring holes into the low below the window; into these long pins were driven, on which a broad board was fastened, which served as a writing table. The reach was the father of a large family living near the schoolhouse. The rod was frequently used, but mostly severely on his own children. He taught German and English, and a variety of text-books was used. One the higher classes recited their lesson from the Old Testament, another from the New Testament. One, a brother’s son, had for his text-book Brother Peter Nead’s book; and still another recited his lesson from a old German hymn book. Other thins might be mentioned that would seem odd to the student or schoolboy of to-day; but I believe if the use of the Bible had been retained, the masses to-day would have a better knowledge of the Good Book. Guthrie, Okla.

---------------------------------------- > From: lmwroth@me.com > Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2013 08:31:19 -0800 > To: brethren@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BRE] Jacob Good/Guth family confusion > > I'm a beginner at genealogy and joined the Brethren list because I saw some of my father's ancestors were buried in Brethren cemeteries, but I haven't gone back to see which ones. It's overwhelming when you start to put together a family tree. I haven't verified most of it yet, but I'm pretty confident about several Hubers and wondered if they were Brethren: Hans Ulrich Huber, b 1670 in Switzerland, d 1750 in Earl, PA; and his daughter Anne Elizabeth Huber, b 1714 in Germany, d 1744 in Earl, PA. > Thanks, > Linda > > Linda M Wroth > lmwroth@me.com > Richmond, California > > > > > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I descend from Jacob Hoover in Somerset co. His son moved to western Md. And my great grandmother was Sarah Hoover, daughter of his son, Carlisle Hoover. Sarah married William Raley. Let me know if you want to compare notes. Thanks Beverly Railey Robinson Sent from my iPhone On Dec 11, 2013, at 11:15 AM, rricabee@aol.com wrote: > Is it possible that the Jacob Huber Jr. (who Dave claims was b. 1752 and died 1810) was the one in Berlin, Somerset County PA in the 1800 census? ?He is listed there as "Senior", but of course his father then of the same name was still living in another county in PA at that time, so technically the one in Somerset Co would have been a "Jr." The Jacob Huber married to Anna Christina Good Huber ?did die that very year on D 10, 1800 but he would have still been living when that census was taken in 1800. I could find no Jacob Huber or Hoover in the 1810 census in Somerset Co., so if Jacob Jr. died there that year before the census was taken that might explain why he isn't in that. I think it is true that men who have a son of the same name are often referred to as "Sr" even if they themselves have a father of the same name.? > > > The Jacob Huber in Somerset Co. shows as a surety in 1799, but how much before that did he live there? ? > > > I take it that the Jacob "Hoover" in the 1800 census in?Hopewell and Woodberry, (then) Bedford County, Pennsylvania was the one married to Anna Christina Good and who wrote his will as "Jacob Hoover of Woodberry T. on Nov 10 of that year. However there is a female in his house age 26 to 45 who is apparently unmarried, and his will refers to all three of his daughters as being married. Presumably his wife Anna (who was alive when he wrote his will since he refers to her in there) is the female over age 45 in his house. ?Can all of you who claimed descent from Jacob and?Anna Christina (Good) provide your input on who you think the other female was? Was one daughter already widowed? There is also a younger male, b. 1784 to 1790, who could be one of two grandsons who Jacob Hoover refers to in his will as being sons of his son Henry by his first wife who are separately provided for. > > > Richard > > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Is it possible that the Jacob Huber Jr. (who Dave claims was b. 1752 and died 1810) was the one in Berlin, Somerset County PA in the 1800 census? ?He is listed there as "Senior", but of course his father then of the same name was still living in another county in PA at that time, so technically the one in Somerset Co would have been a "Jr." The Jacob Huber married to Anna Christina Good Huber ?did die that very year on D 10, 1800 but he would have still been living when that census was taken in 1800. I could find no Jacob Huber or Hoover in the 1810 census in Somerset Co., so if Jacob Jr. died there that year before the census was taken that might explain why he isn't in that. I think it is true that men who have a son of the same name are often referred to as "Sr" even if they themselves have a father of the same name.? The Jacob Huber in Somerset Co. shows as a surety in 1799, but how much before that did he live there? ? I take it that the Jacob "Hoover" in the 1800 census in?Hopewell and Woodberry, (then) Bedford County, Pennsylvania was the one married to Anna Christina Good and who wrote his will as "Jacob Hoover of Woodberry T. on Nov 10 of that year. However there is a female in his house age 26 to 45 who is apparently unmarried, and his will refers to all three of his daughters as being married. Presumably his wife Anna (who was alive when he wrote his will since he refers to her in there) is the female over age 45 in his house. ?Can all of you who claimed descent from Jacob and?Anna Christina (Good) provide your input on who you think the other female was? Was one daughter already widowed? There is also a younger male, b. 1784 to 1790, who could be one of two grandsons who Jacob Hoover refers to in his will as being sons of his son Henry by his first wife who are separately provided for. Richard

Thanks, Dave. I appreciate that. I took a look at the Brethren site and see that this book is listed for sale on their site. I think I will see about getting a copy of it as well. I will also look forward to hearing what you find with regard to sources. It sure would be nice to nail down some of this information! Connie -----Original Message----- From: brethren-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:brethren-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of DESloan@aol.com Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 1:08 PM To: brethren@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BRE] Jacob Good/Guth family confusion Connie, This is a line that I have not verified myself. I got my information from a book by Don Bowman (he is a researcher and works at the Brethren at Brookville, OH) the name of the book is The Hoover Family in the Miami Valley Ohio. I am working on getting a couple of sources that should provide some more information. If I am able to get the sources I'll let you know what I find. Thanks, Dave Sloan In a message dated 12/9/2013 10:42:57 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, ccts2013@carolina.rr.com writes: Hi Dave, I would be interested in learning what you have on Jacob Hoover and Anna Good, especially with regard to documentation. I have found a good bit of information about them, but little of it is documented. They are my 5th great grandparents. Connie -----Original Message----- From: brethren-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:brethren-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of DESloan@aol.com Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2013 12:42 AM To: brethren@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BRE] Jacob Good/Guth family confusion Jacob Huber/Hoover m. 1744 Anna Christina (Good) (Godde) Guth is my 1st cousin 6 times removed. I have some information on the Huber/Hoover line that I am always willing to share. Thanks, Dave In a message dated 12/7/2013 12:20:58 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, jshuman@telis.org writes: Sent on behalf of rricabee@aol.com, who has been having trouble getting messages posted: Bill Thomas and Kim: I just read some posts you've made in the past few days and have to respectively disagree with several statements presented as facts. First, the Jacob Good who Bill writes about had a daughter "Anna" who did marry Peter Longnecker, as he correctly noted, but she was not the same Anna Christina Good who married Jacob Huber/Hoover, Kim's ancestor. Neither was Anna Christina a sister of Anna. The will of the Jacob Good who died in Washington Co. MD lists among his children the daughter Anna who married Peter Longenecker but not Mrs. Huber/Hoover. Neither do I believe that the "first" wife of the Jacob Good who died in Washington Co. MD was likely Elizabeth Gerber. The wife listed in his will is Barbara, and even though some claim her as a second wife, which I believe is likely correct as she had children by a prior marriage, and by their dates of birth it is apparent she was not the mother of many of the children of this Jacob Good, even though later she was his wife. I ! believe it was a different Jacob Good who married Elizabeth Gerber and lived for a time in Washington Co. MD but did not die there. The Elizabeth Gerber who married Jacob Good is claimed by others as moving to Virginia, where he died, and dates and circumstances involving his location lead me to believe this is correct. This error in connecting the Jacob Good who died in 1797 in Washington Co. Maryland with Elizabeth Gerber goes way back in time over 100 years ago, when Mr. Bell placed this in his book on Leitersburg I believe. There were land transactions whereby Michael Miller, step-father of Elizabeth Gerber transferred land to his stepdaughter and her husband, Jacob Good. This was very likely the source Mr. Bell used to make this connection, unless there were intermediate parties. But what they didn't know was that there was likely more than one Jacob Good living in the same area in Washington Co. Maryland, probably at the same time, and I believe the two were first cousins. It seems the one who moved to Virginia was a Brethren elder, and the one who remained in Washington Co. MD was claimed as Mennonite, though most of the children of the latter did join the Brethren church after their marriages. The youngest two sons were Lutheran and Mennonite. The only one who remained Mennonite t! hat I recall was the son who remained in Washington Co. MD after his father's death. Anna Christina Good was not a daughter of the Brethren Jacob Good either as they were born very close in years. Probably 95% or more of the on-line posts on the Jacob Good who died in 1797 in Washington Co. Maryland have errors in them, either as to his parentage, his date of birth, his wive's names, or the names of his children. The latter are easily ascertainable from the will he left, and the names of the children Bill Thomas supplies are all correct there. Except he may not have noted that Kim's Anna Christina (Good) Huber was not among the children listed. 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Dave, I would appreciate hearing, too. Carol J. Hoover -----Original Message----- From: DESloan <DESloan@aol.com> To: brethren <brethren@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tue, Dec 10, 2013 10:59 pm Subject: Re: [BRE] Jacob Good/Guth family confusion Connie, This is a line that I have not verified myself. I got my information from a book by Don Bowman (he is a researcher and works at the Brethren at Brookville, OH) the name of the book is The Hoover Family in the Miami Valley Ohio. I am working on getting a couple of sources that should provide some more information. If I am able to get the sources I'll let you know what I find. Thanks, Dave Sloan In a message dated 12/9/2013 10:42:57 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, ccts2013@carolina.rr.com writes: Hi Dave, I would be interested in learning what you have on Jacob Hoover and Anna Good, especially with regard to documentation. I have found a good bit of information about them, but little of it is documented. They are my 5th great grandparents. Connie -----Original Message----- From: brethren-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:brethren-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of DESloan@aol.com Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2013 12:42 AM To: brethren@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BRE] Jacob Good/Guth family confusion Jacob Huber/Hoover m. 1744 Anna Christina (Good) (Godde) Guth is my 1st cousin 6 times removed. I have some information on the Huber/Hoover line that I am always willing to share. Thanks, Dave In a message dated 12/7/2013 12:20:58 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, jshuman@telis.org writes: Sent on behalf of rricabee@aol.com, who has been having trouble getting messages posted: Bill Thomas and Kim: I just read some posts you've made in the past few days and have to respectively disagree with several statements presented as facts. First, the Jacob Good who Bill writes about had a daughter "Anna" who did marry Peter Longnecker, as he correctly noted, but she was not the same Anna Christina Good who married Jacob Huber/Hoover, Kim's ancestor. Neither was Anna Christina a sister of Anna. The will of the Jacob Good who died in Washington Co. MD lists among his children the daughter Anna who married Peter Longenecker but not Mrs. Huber/Hoover. Neither do I believe that the "first" wife of the Jacob Good who died in Washington Co. MD was likely Elizabeth Gerber. The wife listed in his will is Barbara, and even though some claim her as a second wife, which I believe is likely correct as she had children by a prior marriage, and by their dates of birth it is apparent she was not the mother of many of the children of this Jacob Good, even though later she was his wife. I ! believe it was a different Jacob Good who married Elizabeth Gerber and lived for a time in Washington Co. MD but did not die there. The Elizabeth Gerber who married Jacob Good is claimed by others as moving to Virginia, where he died, and dates and circumstances involving his location lead me to believe this is correct. This error in connecting the Jacob Good who died in 1797 in Washington Co. Maryland with Elizabeth Gerber goes way back in time over 100 years ago, when Mr. Bell placed this in his book on Leitersburg I believe. There were land transactions whereby Michael Miller, step-father of Elizabeth Gerber transferred land to his stepdaughter and her husband, Jacob Good. This was very likely the source Mr. Bell used to make this connection, unless there were intermediate parties. But what they didn't know was that there was likely more than one Jacob Good living in the same area in Washington Co. Maryland, probably at the same time, and I believe the two were first cousins. It seems the one who moved to Virginia was a Brethren elder, and the one who remained in Washington Co. MD was claimed as Mennonite, though most of the children of the latter did join the Brethren church after their marriages. The youngest two sons were Lutheran and Mennonite. The only one who remained Mennonite t! hat I recall was the son who remained in Washington Co. MD after his father's death. Anna Christina Good was not a daughter of the Brethren Jacob Good either as they were born very close in years. Probably 95% or more of the on-line posts on the Jacob Good who died in 1797 in Washington Co. Maryland have errors in them, either as to his parentage, his date of birth, his wive's names, or the names of his children. The latter are easily ascertainable from the will he left, and the names of the children Bill Thomas supplies are all correct there. Except he may not have noted that Kim's Anna Christina (Good) Huber was not among the children listed. 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