Hello Patrick, To subscribe to the Kos Co. IN list, send an email message to INKOSCIU-L-request@rootsweb.com (mail mode) or INKOSCIU-D-request@rootsweb.com (digest mode), with the word SUBSCRIBE in the body of the message. Make sure your signature file is turned off. To post a message to the list, send an email to INKOSCIU-L@rootsweb.com Also send as a text message. There is also an archive for the list. Good Luck, Debbie Freeman Surnames for Kos Co., In - Carr (German, not English), Lawyer, Young Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 12:02 AM To: brethren@rootsweb.com Subject: BRETHREN Digest, Vol 3, Issue 119 3. Is Kosciusko County Listserv not active- who do I contact? (Patrick McGarry) 4. Re: Is Kosciusko County Listserv not active- who do I contact? (Judy Florian) message: 3 Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 19:20:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick McGarry <hawkwind275@yahoo.com> Subject: [BRE] Is Kosciusko County Listserv not active- who do I contact? To: brethren-l@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <59816.51015.qm@web34803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Another question- I for quite for a few months been trying to subscribe to Kosciusko COunty Indiana Rootsweb Listserv. Website says Gene Andert is in charge, but months ago I tried to contact him since he had some of my Arnold relatives on his website and they needed updating. He finally wrote once that 'I have no more time for genealogy'(still has the big website up though). Is this Listserv not active? Who would I write to for more information who is active in doing searches in Kosciusko, as nobody has responeded on their Gen Web Site. Thanks, as know that county has lots of Brethren connections. --------------------------------- Message: 4 Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 00:19:50 -0500 From: "Judy Florian" <cageycat@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [BRE] Is Kosciusko County Listserv not active- who do I contact? If it IS a "GenWeb" site, the webmaster has 2 choices: 1. work on the website or 2. step down as County Coordinator. IF it is a GenWeb county site, visit the State GenWeb or USGenWeb to get the email of a Volunteer supervivor over that State/area. RW has mailing Lists rather than Listservs. If the person is a List Owner over a List, they also should not respond negatively to inquiries about the List. If the website is "private" -- on a dot com, dot org or even "RW freepages" space, there is NO rule a webmaster must continue, must update, or do anything if they choose to stop. So, first, re-visit the website. See if it has icons for a State GenWeb / US GenWeb... if it does have the icons, visit the regular GenWeb site for a "supervisor" email where you can complain. One downfall of the Internet is webmasters do tire, get old, lose interest, become ill, or die. I only hope if I can't continue my webs, that people will still find value in what I posted. You might choose to make your own website, listing all the corrections, with a link to the website that you believe contains errors. Judy On 3/30/08, Patrick McGarry <hawkwind275@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Another question- I for quite for a few months been trying to subscribe to > Kosciusko COunty Indiana Rootsweb Listserv. Website says Gene Andert is in > charge, but months ago I tried to contact him since he had some of my Arnold > relatives on his website and they needed updating. He finally wrote once > that 'I have no more time for genealogy'(still has the big website up > though). Is this Listserv not active? Who would I write to for more > information who is active in doing searches in Kosciusko, as nobody has > responeded on their Gen Web Site. Thanks, as know that county has lots of > Brethren connections.

> I don't have John Hendricks, but have wondered if he might be next in my > family tree--no proof though. My line ends at William W. Hendricks, born > 1788 in North Carolina. He married Susannah Sears (daughter of Samuel and > Christena Sears) on 21 Oct 1817 in Russellville, Logan County, Kentucky, and > started their family in what soon became Simpson County, Kentucky. > > 1788 was the birth of James, son of Elder John Hendricks. James was minister of the Cape Girardeau MO church. Elder John Hendricks had a son William (married Elizabeth Shell in 1833, moved to Sangamon Co IL. So, your William W Henricks is not the son of Elder John. But I have also in Warren Co KY, a Thomas Hendricks, who lives close to Elder John. Thomas Jr (a son) went to Nashville (Davidson Co TN), then Thomas III went to Morgan Co Indiana - but I do not have much information on these families. From the Carolinas I only have a John Hendricks (Elder John -to Lick Branch of Drakes Creek -then Warren Co, later Simpson Co KY) and a James Hendricks (who I am sure is the James of the Hinkston Creek Church, Montgomery Co KY). So I do not know if Thomas is another brother. I do not have much information on the family of James Hendricks, probably the parent of these Elder John and James - this James Sr came down from York Co PA, to Dutchmans Creek, Forks of the Yadkin, Rowan Co NC, 1775. He is recorded as a wheelwright (made wagon wheels). But a James Hendricks (same one or other?) also purchased 349 acres on Middle Crane Creek (east of Salsbury NC - west of the Yadkin). He may also be the James Henrick mentioned by Morgan Edwards in 1770 as a minister at the Little Conewago Congregation. Be aware that the names John and James are common in every generation of the Hendricks family - so which one is a person talking about? The first settler west of the Susquehanna River was a John Hendricks, who moved there in 1728. His son James joined him in 1731, then was accidentally killed by his father in 1732. Michael Danner bought land from him. Ferne Baldwin indicated that the family went back to a Gerhard Hendricks, wife May and daughter Sarah, who arrived in America in 1685 from Krisheim Germany (a Brethren Settlement -amidst Mennonites - but the 1685 migration was a Mennonite migration, not Brethren). . Do you have information on Samuel Sears (1769-1846, wife Christina ?Conrad) and family? He is a son of Johann Zaher and Barbara (Miller) Hon (second wife). And Dwayne, you mentioned Daniel and Betty Martin Sears -yes, Pamela is helping me on these Sears families -but so far I only have partial information on the John Sears family. Merle C Rummel

If it IS a "GenWeb" site, the webmaster has 2 choices: 1. work on the website or 2. step down as County Coordinator. IF it is a GenWeb county site, visit the State GenWeb or USGenWeb to get the email of a Volunteer supervivor over that State/area. RW has mailing Lists rather than Listservs. If the person is a List Owner over a List, they also should not respond negatively to inquiries about the List. If the website is "private" -- on a dot com, dot org or even "RW freepages" space, there is NO rule a webmaster must continue, must update, or do anything if they choose to stop. So, first, re-visit the website. See if it has icons for a State GenWeb / US GenWeb... if it does have the icons, visit the regular GenWeb site for a "supervisor" email where you can complain. One downfall of the Internet is webmasters do tire, get old, lose interest, become ill, or die. I only hope if I can't continue my webs, that people will still find value in what I posted. You might choose to make your own website, listing all the corrections, with a link to the website that you believe contains errors. Judy On 3/30/08, Patrick McGarry <hawkwind275@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Another question- I for quite for a few months been trying to subscribe to > Kosciusko COunty Indiana Rootsweb Listserv. Website says Gene Andert is in > charge, but months ago I tried to contact him since he had some of my Arnold > relatives on his website and they needed updating. He finally wrote once > that 'I have no more time for genealogy'(still has the big website up > though). Is this Listserv not active? Who would I write to for more > information who is active in doing searches in Kosciusko, as nobody has > responeded on their Gen Web Site. Thanks, as know that county has lots of > Brethren connections.

The Samuel Sears family, including that of daughter Susan and her husband William Hendricks, moved to Sangamon County, Illinois, near the end of the 1820s. In 1830, the family members started buying land in Scottville Township (Sections 20, 21, 28, 29) in Macoupin County, Illinois, and by 1835, all of the extended family were living in Macoupin. In 1836, the family started moving out of Macoupin and into the State of Iowa. William and Susan Hendricks and Samuel and Christina Sears did not move to Iowa until 1843. William Hendricks died during the move and was buried in Hoover Cemetery of Franklin Township, Lee County, Iowa. His widow and children settled in Polk and Decatur Counties in Iowa. The parents of William Hendricks are unknown to me, but I, too, suspect that he was somehow related to Elder John Hendricks. Dwayne Wrightsman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott van Pletzen-Rands" <svpr10011@gmail.com> To: <brethren@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 5:38 PM Subject: Re: [BRE] Hendricks Family >I don't have John Hendricks, but have wondered if he might be next in my > family tree--no proof though. My line ends at William W. Hendricks, born > 1788 in North Carolina. He married Susannah Sears (daughter of Samuel and > Christena Sears) on 21 Oct 1817 in Russellville, Logan County, Kentucky, > and > started their family in what soon became Simpson County, Kentucky. > > The family, including Susannah's parents, moved to Macoupin County, > Illinois > (probably Scottville), between 1825 and 1829, then on to Polk and Decatur > Counties, Iowa about 1845. > > One of the children in this family was Daniel Wesley Hendricks who was > received in Carroll County, Iowa (by letter from the Prairie City Church) > in > the spring of 1880. > > As I said, I have no idea if this family is related directly to Elder John > Hendricks, but would certainly not be disappointed to find out. > > Scott > > > On 3/28/08 6:31 AM, "Merle C Rummel" <cliff@rtkonline.com> wrote: > >> I'm working on my Frontier Brethren Book - >> >> Can anyone give me family sheet information on Elder John Hendricks and >> his children and grandchildren? >> >> I also have a Thomas Hendricks there on Drakes Creek - seemingly a >> brother or son of Elder John >> >> There is a James Hendricks up at Hinkston Creek - are family sheets >> available on this family? >> >> Merle C Rummel >> >> ------------------------ >> Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN >> ------------------------ >> Support Our Sponsoring Agency >> The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) >> For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:McAdamsr@hotmail.com >> ------------------------ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > Support Our Sponsoring Agency > The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) > For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:McAdamsr@hotmail.com > ------------------------ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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Gail Do you know where I can get a copy of the book The Bowmans in Franklin County Virginia by Wayne St. Clair Bowman M Bowman In a message dated 3/30/2008 6:52:40 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, glongton@bellsouth.net writes: No, I am from Franklin Co, VA Bowmans....my grandfather was Macy Alvin Bowman b.1897 , son of Levi Abraham b. 1875, son of Isaac and Nancy (Peters) Bowman , son of John and Sallie (Flora) Bowman , etc. Gail Bowman Longton **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15&ncid=aolhom00030000000001)

WHOA!!! sorry about the grammar in that last email...I didn't give it my full attention. :-( Gail Bowman Longton ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gail Longton" <glongton@bellsouth.net> To: <brethren@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 6:21 PM Subject: Re: [BRE] A descendant of Abraham Flora and ChristenaFrantzdiedthispast wee... >I do not. I have the History and Genealogy of Peter Eichenberg Family and I > have John Bowman and Elizabeth Ikenberry Family Record by Floyd and > Marilyn > Mason. If you can find the Bowmans in Franklin Co, VA I would love to know > get a copy also. I just check Amazon, Google and EBay...no hits! > > Gail Bowman Longton > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Hopsandmelb@aol.com> > To: <brethren@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 6:08 PM > Subject: Re: [BRE] A descendant of Abraham Flora and > ChristenaFrantzdiedthis > past wee... > > >> Gail >> >> Do you know where I can get a copy of the book >> The Bowmans in Franklin County Virginia >> by >> Wayne St. Clair Bowman >> >> M Bowman >> >> >> In a message dated 3/30/2008 6:52:40 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >> glongton@bellsouth.net writes: >> >> No, I am from Franklin Co, VA Bowmans....my grandfather was Macy Alvin >> Bowman b.1897 , son of Levi Abraham b. 1875, son of Isaac and Nancy >> (Peters) >> >> Bowman , son of John and Sallie (Flora) Bowman , etc. >> >> Gail Bowman Longton >> >> >> >> >> >> **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL >> Home. >> (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15&ncid=aolhom00030000000001) >> >> ------------------------ >> Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN >> ------------------------ >> Support Our Sponsoring Agency >> The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) >> For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:McAdamsr@hotmail.com >> ------------------------ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > Support Our Sponsoring Agency > The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) > For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:McAdamsr@hotmail.com > ------------------------ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I do not. I have the History and Genealogy of Peter Eichenberg Family and I have John Bowman and Elizabeth Ikenberry Family Record by Floyd and Marilyn Mason. If you can find the Bowmans in Franklin Co, VA I would love to know get a copy also. I just check Amazon, Google and EBay...no hits! Gail Bowman Longton ----- Original Message ----- From: <Hopsandmelb@aol.com> To: <brethren@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 6:08 PM Subject: Re: [BRE] A descendant of Abraham Flora and ChristenaFrantzdiedthis past wee... > Gail > > Do you know where I can get a copy of the book > The Bowmans in Franklin County Virginia > by > Wayne St. Clair Bowman > > M Bowman > > > In a message dated 3/30/2008 6:52:40 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > glongton@bellsouth.net writes: > > No, I am from Franklin Co, VA Bowmans....my grandfather was Macy Alvin > Bowman b.1897 , son of Levi Abraham b. 1875, son of Isaac and Nancy > (Peters) > > Bowman , son of John and Sallie (Flora) Bowman , etc. > > Gail Bowman Longton > > > > > > **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL > Home. > (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15&ncid=aolhom00030000000001) > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > Support Our Sponsoring Agency > The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) > For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:McAdamsr@hotmail.com > ------------------------ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

No, I am from Franklin Co, VA Bowmans....my grandfather was Macy Alvin Bowman b.1897 , son of Levi Abraham b. 1875, son of Isaac and Nancy (Peters) Bowman , son of John and Sallie (Flora) Bowman , etc. Gail Bowman Longton ----- Original Message ----- From: "Del & Carol" <delcarol@iezpc.com> To: <brethren@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 2:11 PM Subject: Re: [BRE] A descendant of Abraham Flora and Christena Frantzdiedthis past week at age 105. If anyb > Gail Bowman Longton, do you know is your people were Bowmans who came to > Tenn. from Va. in the early 1800's Some of my early Bowman di and some > stayed and ended up in Floyd Co Va. Delmus > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gail Longton" <glongton@bellsouth.net> > To: <brethren@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 1:25 PM > Subject: Re: [BRE] A descendant of Abraham Flora and Christena Frantz > diedthis past week at age 105. If anyb > > >> Why not put the information on the list for all of us to read? >> >> Gail Bowman Longton >> Clarksville, TN >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Rebecca Young" <beckyyoung777@hotmail.com> >> To: <brethren@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 10:44 PM >> Subject: Re: [BRE] A descendant of Abraham Flora and Christena Frantz >> died >> this past week at age 105. If anyb >> >> >> > Hello, >> > I'm a direct descendant Abraham Flora and Christena Frantz, and would > love >> > the information on the person you noted who passed away. >> > Thanks in advance, >> > Becky (Young) Hoatland >> > >> > >> >> Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 16:53:48 -0700> From: hawkwind275@yahoo.com> >> >> To: >> >> brethren-l@rootsweb.com> Subject: [BRE] A descendant of Abraham Flora > and >> >> Christena Frantz died this past week at age 105. If anybody is >> >> interested, email me off of list and will give you more. Thanks.> > A >> >> descendant of Abraham Flora and Christena Frantz died this past week >> >> at >> >> age 105. If anybody is interested, email me off of list and will give > you >> >> more. Thanks.> > ---------------------------------> Special deal for >> >> Yahoo! users & friends - No Cost. Get a month of Blockbuster Total > Access >> >> now> > ------------------------> Search the Archives at >> >> > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN> ------------------------> >> >> Support Our Sponsoring Agency> The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists >> >> (FOBG)> For further information contact Ron McAdams >> >> mailto:McAdamsr@hotmail.com> ------------------------> >> >> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, > please >> >> send an email to BRETHREN-request@roots! >> > web.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject > and >> > the body of the message >> > _________________________________________________________________ >> > How well do you know your celebrity gossip? >> > http://originals.msn.com/thebigdebate?ocid=T002MSN03N0707A >> > >> > ------------------------ >> > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN >> > ------------------------ >> > Support Our Sponsoring Agency >> > The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) >> > For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:McAdamsr@hotmail.com >> > ------------------------ >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------ >> Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN >> ------------------------ >> Support Our Sponsoring Agency >> The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) >> For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:McAdamsr@hotmail.com >> ------------------------ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > > > > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > Support Our Sponsoring Agency > The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) > For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:McAdamsr@hotmail.com > ------------------------ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I don't have John Hendricks, but have wondered if he might be next in my family tree--no proof though. My line ends at William W. Hendricks, born 1788 in North Carolina. He married Susannah Sears (daughter of Samuel and Christena Sears) on 21 Oct 1817 in Russellville, Logan County, Kentucky, and started their family in what soon became Simpson County, Kentucky. The family, including Susannah's parents, moved to Macoupin County, Illinois (probably Scottville), between 1825 and 1829, then on to Polk and Decatur Counties, Iowa about 1845. One of the children in this family was Daniel Wesley Hendricks who was received in Carroll County, Iowa (by letter from the Prairie City Church) in the spring of 1880. As I said, I have no idea if this family is related directly to Elder John Hendricks, but would certainly not be disappointed to find out. Scott On 3/28/08 6:31 AM, "Merle C Rummel" <cliff@rtkonline.com> wrote: > I'm working on my Frontier Brethren Book - > > Can anyone give me family sheet information on Elder John Hendricks and > his children and grandchildren? > > I also have a Thomas Hendricks there on Drakes Creek - seemingly a > brother or son of Elder John > > There is a James Hendricks up at Hinkston Creek - are family sheets > available on this family? > > Merle C Rummel > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > Support Our Sponsoring Agency > The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) > For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:McAdamsr@hotmail.com > ------------------------ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Gail Bowman Longton, do you know is your people were Bowmans who came to Tenn. from Va. in the early 1800's Some of my early Bowman di and some stayed and ended up in Floyd Co Va. Delmus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gail Longton" <glongton@bellsouth.net> To: <brethren@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 1:25 PM Subject: Re: [BRE] A descendant of Abraham Flora and Christena Frantz diedthis past week at age 105. If anyb > Why not put the information on the list for all of us to read? > > Gail Bowman Longton > Clarksville, TN > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rebecca Young" <beckyyoung777@hotmail.com> > To: <brethren@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 10:44 PM > Subject: Re: [BRE] A descendant of Abraham Flora and Christena Frantz died > this past week at age 105. If anyb > > > > Hello, > > I'm a direct descendant Abraham Flora and Christena Frantz, and would love > > the information on the person you noted who passed away. > > Thanks in advance, > > Becky (Young) Hoatland > > > > > >> Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 16:53:48 -0700> From: hawkwind275@yahoo.com> To: > >> brethren-l@rootsweb.com> Subject: [BRE] A descendant of Abraham Flora and > >> Christena Frantz died this past week at age 105. If anybody is > >> interested, email me off of list and will give you more. Thanks.> > A > >> descendant of Abraham Flora and Christena Frantz died this past week at > >> age 105. If anybody is interested, email me off of list and will give you > >> more. Thanks.> > ---------------------------------> Special deal for > >> Yahoo! users & friends - No Cost. Get a month of Blockbuster Total Access > >> now> > ------------------------> Search the Archives at > >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN> ------------------------> > >> Support Our Sponsoring Agency> The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists > >> (FOBG)> For further information contact Ron McAdams > >> mailto:McAdamsr@hotmail.com> ------------------------> > >> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please > >> send an email to BRETHREN-request@roots! > > web.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > > the body of the message > > _________________________________________________________________ > > How well do you know your celebrity gossip? > > http://originals.msn.com/thebigdebate?ocid=T002MSN03N0707A > > > > ------------------------ > > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > > ------------------------ > > Support Our Sponsoring Agency > > The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) > > For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:McAdamsr@hotmail.com > > ------------------------ > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > Support Our Sponsoring Agency > The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) > For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:McAdamsr@hotmail.com > ------------------------ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Bill, Nicholas Gerst Jr. and Frederick Gerst were two of the sons of Nicholas Gerst. They were born into a Brethren family as Nicholas Gerst switched from Reformed to Brethren soon after settling in Bethel Township at age 22. I presume he became Brethren due to the Brethren influence in his life, e.g., marriage, etc. Dewalt Gerst was a younger brother of Nicholas Gerst who remained Reformed until after their father Theobald died in 1770. Dewalt had many children and only those born before 1770 were baptized as infants in the Reformed Church. I think Dewalt's Reformed affiliation ended with the death of his father. Dwayne ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Thomas" <wbtst2@atlanticbb.net> To: <brethren@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 7:30 PM Subject: Re: [BRE] Wife of John Nicholas Garst > > > Dwayne: > > The 1777 non-associator listing for Bethel Township, Lancaster County > included Dewalt Gerst, Nicholas Gerst, Nicholas Gerst Jr., and Frederick > Gerst. This implies they were likely German Baptist or Mennonite. To a > lesser degree they could have been Quaker or Loyalist to be on this list. > > Bill Thomas > > -----Original Message----- > From: brethren-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:brethren-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Dwayne Wrightsman > Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 12:08 PM > To: brethren@rootsweb.com; garst@rootsweb.com; frantz@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BRE] Wife of John Nicholas Garst > > > In 1973, Rolland F. Flory, who was a Brethren minister at Donnel's Creek > Church, Clark County, Ohio, wrote a book entitled "Lest We Forget and > Tales > of Yester-Years." Donnel's Creek was where the Christian and Mary [Garst] > Frantz and the Daniel and Anna [Garst] Frantz had settled and where many > of > their Frantz descendants lived over the years. Mary and Anna were > daughters > > of John Nicholas Garst. > > On page 174 of his book, Flory wrote the following about the wife of John > Nicholas Garst. > > "John Nicholas, Sr., the father of the Garst sisters, was born in Germany > in > > the year 1725. He arrived in Philadelphia in the year 1749 to search out > and find a location for settlement. The following year his father, > Theobold, mother Magdalene, one brother Dewald and five sisters, the > youngest at the time being eleven years of age, sailed to America on the > ship 'Isaac.' They landed at the city of 'Brotherly Love' and upon their > arrival they soon settled in Bethel Township, Lancaster County, on land > son > John Nicholas had selected for the family. They settled in a community of > German families, many of which were of the Brethren faith. SOON AFTER THE > ARRIVAL OF THE FAMILY HE WAS MARRIED TO THE DAUGHTER OF A NEIGHBOR > BRETHREN > FAMILY AND SOON UNITED WITH THAT FAITH." (all-caps mine) > > One wonders where Flory got this information, but, assuming he is correct, > we know that John Nicholas Garst's closest Brethren neighbor was Michael > Frantz of Little Swatara, whose first cousin, Michael Frantz II of > Cocalico, > > was the father of the four Frantz brothers who married the four Garst > sisters. Michael Frantz of Little Swatara was the same age as John > Nicholas > Garst and had no children. He did, however, have a sister, Elizabeth, who > was two years younger than John Nicholas Garst. She is the most likely > candidate to have been the wife of John Nicholas Garst. > > Dwayne Wrightsman > > > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > Support Our Sponsoring Agency > The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) > For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:McAdamsr@hotmail.com > ------------------------ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > Support Our Sponsoring Agency > The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) > For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:McAdamsr@hotmail.com > ------------------------ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dwayne: The 1777 non-associator listing for Bethel Township, Lancaster County included Dewalt Gerst, Nicholas Gerst, Nicholas Gerst Jr., and Frederick Gerst. This implies they were likely German Baptist or Mennonite. To a lesser degree they could have been Quaker or Loyalist to be on this list. Bill Thomas -----Original Message----- From: brethren-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:brethren-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dwayne Wrightsman Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 12:08 PM To: brethren@rootsweb.com; garst@rootsweb.com; frantz@rootsweb.com Subject: [BRE] Wife of John Nicholas Garst In 1973, Rolland F. Flory, who was a Brethren minister at Donnel's Creek Church, Clark County, Ohio, wrote a book entitled "Lest We Forget and Tales of Yester-Years." Donnel's Creek was where the Christian and Mary [Garst] Frantz and the Daniel and Anna [Garst] Frantz had settled and where many of their Frantz descendants lived over the years. Mary and Anna were daughters of John Nicholas Garst. On page 174 of his book, Flory wrote the following about the wife of John Nicholas Garst. "John Nicholas, Sr., the father of the Garst sisters, was born in Germany in the year 1725. He arrived in Philadelphia in the year 1749 to search out and find a location for settlement. The following year his father, Theobold, mother Magdalene, one brother Dewald and five sisters, the youngest at the time being eleven years of age, sailed to America on the ship 'Isaac.' They landed at the city of 'Brotherly Love' and upon their arrival they soon settled in Bethel Township, Lancaster County, on land son John Nicholas had selected for the family. They settled in a community of German families, many of which were of the Brethren faith. SOON AFTER THE ARRIVAL OF THE FAMILY HE WAS MARRIED TO THE DAUGHTER OF A NEIGHBOR BRETHREN FAMILY AND SOON UNITED WITH THAT FAITH." (all-caps mine) One wonders where Flory got this information, but, assuming he is correct, we know that John Nicholas Garst's closest Brethren neighbor was Michael Frantz of Little Swatara, whose first cousin, Michael Frantz II of Cocalico, was the father of the four Frantz brothers who married the four Garst sisters. Michael Frantz of Little Swatara was the same age as John Nicholas Garst and had no children. He did, however, have a sister, Elizabeth, who was two years younger than John Nicholas Garst. She is the most likely candidate to have been the wife of John Nicholas Garst. Dwayne Wrightsman ------------------------ Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN ------------------------ Support Our Sponsoring Agency The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:McAdamsr@hotmail.com ------------------------ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Is any one interested in George Rothenberger Obituary? He died Oct. 31-1881. He was a minister in OH & IN. Dennis **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15&ncid=aolhom00030000000001)

Mary--Glad to know where one of the Renner family stories is located. That is probably the reference the Brethren Encyclopedia was referring to in the article on Isaac Renner. Thanks. Jane Davis. > From: jrenner1@woh.rr.com> To: brethren@rootsweb.com> Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 22:16:04 -0400> Subject: [BRE] Renner and the BE> > "History of the Brethren in Maryland" contains a bio. for Isaac Renner which > includes the story of> the Renner family with Francis Renner being "the King's printer in one of > the large kingdoms of> Germany about the year 1315". It states that William Renner came to America > with a colony of> Palatines and settled in Lancaster County, PA. Perhaps the material you are > talking about> was actually in the History of the Brethren in Maryland.> > Mary (Fair) Renner> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jane Davis" <jneherda@msn.com>> To: <brethren@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 6:45 PM> Subject: Re: [BRE] Renner and the BE> > > > Janet--I have tried unsuccessfully to locate the material you have written > > regarding the Renners as being in the Brethren Encyclopedia (BE). There > > is very little family history regarding this family in the encyclopedia. > > Here are the references I have for material printed in the Brethren > > Encyclopedia, none without references as to where the material was > > resourced originally.> > In the list of ministers there are three Renners--Eli (Levi) Renner, a > > Church of the Brethren minister, b.9-6-1839, d. 2-9-1913. He was elder at > > the Burr Oak Kansas church in 1882, presiding elder 1892-1894, and at Red > > Cloud Nebraska 1895. He is referenced in Craik, History of the Brethren > > in Kansas, 1922, pp 119, 348-349.> > Francis C. Renner, b 6-14-1840, d. 12-15-1914, also Church of the > > Brethren, he was elder at New Midway, Maryland according to the Brethren > > Almanac, 1890, p. 37 and the Gospel Messenger 1915, p 75 (contains his > > obit).> > Isaac Renner is not identified as to Brethren affiliation, b. 3-24-1811, > > d. 6-30-1880. He was elder at Monrovia, MD(?), Monocacy, MD. Taken from > > a history of the Brethren in Maryland, 1939 publication, pp. 247-248.> > The above three bios are found on page 1747 in the Brethren Encyclopedia, > > in the ministerial list.> >> > On page 1341, (Brethren Encyclopedia) under the history of the White Rock > > Church of the Brethren, North Dakota, the Renner family name is listed as > > being part of the group which settled near Denbigh, McHenry County, North > > Dakota, church organization July 28, 1900.The third reference to Renners > > is found on page 995, Brethren Encyclopedia, in which F. C. Renner, New > > Midway, MD was one of those involved in the business of selling patent > > medicines. The references given is to the Church of the Brethren Annual > > Conference Minutes for 1909, p. 1876. Others listed in this article on > > patent medicines are the History of the House of Fahrney, 1892. James H. > > Young, Toadstool Millionaires: A Social History of Patent Medicines in > > America, published 1961, the History of the Colorado Brethren by Blanche > > Frantz, 1963, pp 1-2.> >> > These are the only references on the Renner family that I can locate via > > Vol 4 index to the first three volumes of the Brethren Encyclopedia, or in > > searching through Volumes 1,2, 3.> >> > I also wrote articles for the Brethren Encyclopedia and all articles were > > expected to have references citing their sources of material written for > > the BE. A tremendous amount of original research went into producing the > > encyclopedia, especially when one considers what was available to use in > > the 1970's. One article that I did not put into the BE was one in which I > > could not locate any information for the article on this one church > > because I only had two names with no counties, no towns, no addresses with > > which to search the state. Also, churches that did not last more than > > five years were not included in the writings about the local church. > > Today, one can find more material via the internet, etc. Many of the > > books written earlier in our history did not have references so it is > > unknown from whom or where they got their material.> >> > Hopefully, Janet, you will be able to locate where you got your xerox > > copies of the Renner family bios but they did not appear in the B. E. (to > > my knowledge). I am interested in the Eli (Levi) Renner who was out in > > KS. There is a one-page bio in Craik's Kansas history on Eli Renner. > > Craik used bios sent in by family members at his request. Eli was son of > > Noah and Fanny Weaver Renner, born near Dayton OH. During his childhood > > the family moved to Portland, Indiana. He married Diana Cubbison, of > > Bloomfield, Indiana Jan. 14, 1862. They had four sons, and a foster > > daughter survive his passing. He was baptized in the Bear Creek church > > near Bloomfield, Indiana November 1865. Elected to the ministry in that > > congregation and moved to Kansas 1879, Burr Oak where he remained until > > his death, except for 6 months in Meriden KS 1896. Death was the result > > of attack of la grippe and stroke of paralysis. His last act was to sign > > a check in payment for his share to the support of h!> > is pastor. He was kind and considerate of others, continually concerned > > about the welfare of the church which he loved.> >> > Best wishes for your continued research, Jane Davis.> >> >> >> >> From: rogers922@intrstar.net> To: brethren@rootsweb.com> Date: Sat, 22 > >> Mar 2008 21:46:21 -0400> Subject: [BRE] Renner and the BE> > Dear Merle,> > >> Or really, anyone on the list that may be able to answer the question.> I > >> have xerox copies of the biographies of my RENNER's listed in the > > >> Brethren Encyclopedia (which I cannot lay my hands on at the moment). I > >> also > have a xerox copy of the Roy Bohn "Genealogy of the Renner Family" > >> circl > 1937.> In the introduction of the Bohn work, Roy basically > >> transfered, lifter, > plagerized, borrowed, whatever you would like to > >> call it, excerpts from the > BE Renner biographies.> In these biographies > >> it states, "The Renner family came from sturdy > German ancestry. Their > >> lineage came into prominence when one Francis Renner > was make the > >> King's printer in one of the large kingdom's of Germany in > 1315. This > >> printer, Francis Renner, was one of the best educated men of his > day > >> and had great influence in the royal household. His descend!> > ents > continued in the royal service of the kingdom for many generations. > > Some of > the grandsons of Francis won distinction as crusaders. They had > > the spirit > of adventure. Some were pioneer Crusaders, while others > > traveled as > merchants, or went out as valiant knights.> The descendents > > of Francis Renner became numerous in Germany, and when > the persecutions > > swept over Germany, William Renner, a dirct descendent of > the old > > pioneer, Francis Renner, cast his lot with the faithful band of > > > persecuted souls and came to America with a colony of Palatines. He > > settled > in Lancaster County, PA and died there."> Now, my question is > > this. Bohn, as stated before, lifted some material > from the BE. Bohn's > > work has no footnotes, no reference to where information > was retreived, > > etc. He does, in his preface, mention there were many family > bibles > > involved. Is there any reference in the BE as to where some of this > > > information came from? There are some errors that I can see, !> > one being that > if William Renner lived and died in Lancaster County,> > PA, why is his > tombstone in Frederick County, MD?> Can anyone give me a > > bit of a clue as to how the facts in the BE were > gathered, or were they > > oral histories?> To quote a local colloquillism, "I think I done confused > > myself."> > Blessings> Janet > > > ------------------------> Search the > > Archives at > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN> ------------------------> > > Support Our Sponsoring Agency> The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists > > (FOBG)> For further information contact Ron McAdams > > mailto:McAdamsr@hotmail.com> ------------------------> > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please > > send an email to BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message> > _________________________________________________________________> > How well do you know your celebrity gossip?> > http://originals.msn.com/thebigdebate?ocid=T002MSN03N0707A> >> > ------------------------> > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN> > ------------------------> > Support Our Sponsoring Agency> > The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG)> > For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:McAdamsr@hotmail.com> > ------------------------> >> > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message> > > > > > ------------------------> Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN> ------------------------> Support Our Sponsoring Agency> The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG)> For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:McAdamsr@hotmail.com> ------------------------> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Watch “Cause Effect,” a show about real people making a real difference. 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> In 1973, Rolland F. Flory, who was a Brethren minister at Donnel's Creek > Church, Clark County, Ohio, wrote a book entitled "Lest We Forget and Tales > of Yester-Years." > > One wonders where Flory got this information, but, assuming he is correct, Yes, this is another case of - what we see with Austin Cooper - and his Brothers Valley book Rolland Flory became the principal of the Sinking Spring High School - in Highland Co OH, a few years after I had taught there. I never knew him, but had heard of him, and do use his Lest I Forget Vol 3 - on the Kentucky Churches (The Brush Creek Church [Strait Creek Church] there at Sinking Spring is where John Countryman came in 1797). Where did Rolland Flory get his information? I can assume he did a lot of traveling down into Kentucky. After he died, I did some checking about his records. There are none. But I am finding that his information is pretty accurate. The statement given to me by the President at Manchester College was that while he didn't footnote - he referenced most of his statements in his work. That is partially true (but there are so many times I wish I knew where he got certain informations). And you know - I'm not going to do a lot better. Do I footnote every statement I make? I can give major sources, and do give specific references, but there are so many pieces of information that I really am not going to footnoted every couple lines clear through my whole book!!! In a way, its like Jesus says in the Bible - The Jewish Scribes proved their accuracy by giving all the references ("Rabbi Gamalial says that Rabbi Lemuel said that - - ") - yet Jesus "taught with Authority" - and - "I say unto you - - " Merle C Rummel

Why not put the information on the list for all of us to read? Gail Bowman Longton Clarksville, TN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rebecca Young" <beckyyoung777@hotmail.com> To: <brethren@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 10:44 PM Subject: Re: [BRE] A descendant of Abraham Flora and Christena Frantz died this past week at age 105. If anyb > Hello, > I'm a direct descendant Abraham Flora and Christena Frantz, and would love > the information on the person you noted who passed away. > Thanks in advance, > Becky (Young) Hoatland > > >> Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 16:53:48 -0700> From: hawkwind275@yahoo.com> To: >> brethren-l@rootsweb.com> Subject: [BRE] A descendant of Abraham Flora and >> Christena Frantz died this past week at age 105. If anybody is >> interested, email me off of list and will give you more. Thanks.> > A >> descendant of Abraham Flora and Christena Frantz died this past week at >> age 105. If anybody is interested, email me off of list and will give you >> more. Thanks.> > ---------------------------------> Special deal for >> Yahoo! users & friends - No Cost. Get a month of Blockbuster Total Access >> now> > ------------------------> Search the Archives at >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN> ------------------------> >> Support Our Sponsoring Agency> The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists >> (FOBG)> For further information contact Ron McAdams >> mailto:McAdamsr@hotmail.com> ------------------------> >> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please >> send an email to BRETHREN-request@roots! > web.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > _________________________________________________________________ > How well do you know your celebrity gossip? > http://originals.msn.com/thebigdebate?ocid=T002MSN03N0707A > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > Support Our Sponsoring Agency > The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) > For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:McAdamsr@hotmail.com > ------------------------ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In 1973, Rolland F. Flory, who was a Brethren minister at Donnel's Creek Church, Clark County, Ohio, wrote a book entitled "Lest We Forget and Tales of Yester-Years." Donnel's Creek was where the Christian and Mary [Garst] Frantz and the Daniel and Anna [Garst] Frantz had settled and where many of their Frantz descendants lived over the years. Mary and Anna were daughters of John Nicholas Garst. On page 174 of his book, Flory wrote the following about the wife of John Nicholas Garst. "John Nicholas, Sr., the father of the Garst sisters, was born in Germany in the year 1725. He arrived in Philadelphia in the year 1749 to search out and find a location for settlement. The following year his father, Theobold, mother Magdalene, one brother Dewald and five sisters, the youngest at the time being eleven years of age, sailed to America on the ship 'Isaac.' They landed at the city of 'Brotherly Love' and upon their arrival they soon settled in Bethel Township, Lancaster County, on land son John Nicholas had selected for the family. They settled in a community of German families, many of which were of the Brethren faith. SOON AFTER THE ARRIVAL OF THE FAMILY HE WAS MARRIED TO THE DAUGHTER OF A NEIGHBOR BRETHREN FAMILY AND SOON UNITED WITH THAT FAITH." (all-caps mine) One wonders where Flory got this information, but, assuming he is correct, we know that John Nicholas Garst's closest Brethren neighbor was Michael Frantz of Little Swatara, whose first cousin, Michael Frantz II of Cocalico, was the father of the four Frantz brothers who married the four Garst sisters. Michael Frantz of Little Swatara was the same age as John Nicholas Garst and had no children. He did, however, have a sister, Elizabeth, who was two years younger than John Nicholas Garst. She is the most likely candidate to have been the wife of John Nicholas Garst. Dwayne Wrightsman

> I'm very behind in keeping up with my email, but I presently have Ruth > C. Snyder's book on the "Fosher Girls . . . daughters of Daniel Fosher > and Marillis (Eckel)Fosher (1785-1970)" [Lincoln, NE: self-published(?), > 1982] on InterLibraryLoan for another week or so. I would be glad to > check any info available. It's not very well organized or documented > and not very sporadic on ancestors. (She has Elizabeth Landes's father > --Henry-- but not the mother, for example. She has another half-page > on the family of a John Jacob Landes, b Germany 1696, and married > Margaret Naas, daughter of John Naas. But does not tie in this family > with that of Henry Landes or explain why she's including the John Jacob > Landes family. > > I must have a later Landes generation - Henry Landes (1740-1825)/wife Mary Carver. His parents were Henry Landes/wife Elizabeth Naas. John Jacob Landes mush have been the previous generation - immigrant - I do not have that far back (in my Four Mile Church book). Elizabeth Landes, wife of John Fosher, was the daughter of Henry Landes (1760-1834) - her mother was Susannah - but I have only Susannah's given name. John and Elizabeth Fosher wer part of the migration to Putnam Co IN - the Ladoga Churches, about 1825. Elizabeth died in 1833. John Fosher was a son of Daniel Fosher (1762-1849) and Marillis Eckel (1764-1832) - these then would be John's sisters? - he had six of them (there were 4 boys). Susannah Fosher married Joseph Pagin (of Fort Kaskaskia IL) and went to South Bend IN. Mary Fosher married John Hale and went to Putnam County. Elizaabeth Fosher died at 7 years old - in Virginia. Catherine Fosher married Stephen Hicks and stayed in Virginia. Saloma Fosher married John Drook, and went to Grant Co IN. Anna Fosher married William Stanton and went to South Bend IN. Are these the "Fosher Girls"? Merle C Rummel