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Stan - thanks for the website with info. re: John Naas and his daughters. winter On Apr 20, 2008, at 4:08 PM, Stan Follis wrote: > Winter > > I have a short web page: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~sfollis/follis/naas/naas_f > amilies.html > > That answers some of your questions about Johannes NAAS and some > online > sources I have found. "Some Who Led" was written in 1912 according > to one of > the sources. > > Stan Follis, Family Historian > > Genealogy web site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sfollis/ > > -----Original Message----- > From: brethren-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:brethren-bounces@rootsweb.com > ] > On Behalf Of winter dellenbach > Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 6:11 PM > To: Brethren@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BRE] Johannes Naas > > Hi - from Wayne Webb's emai re: "Some Who Led" by Miller, one of the > write-ups is about Johannes Naas (pg 13-15). Can you all tell me: > > 1. When was Some Who Led written? How reliable to we think it is? > > 2. Are there any sources for the info? > Date of landing in America? > That one child came with him to America - Elizabeth (She married > Johannes Landis). > Does anyone know of info on Elizabeth Naas Landis? > > thanks - winter > > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > Support Our Sponsoring Agency > The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) > For further information contact Ron McAdams > mailto:McAdamsr@hotmail.com > ------------------------ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message
Hi - from Wayne Webb's emai re: "Some Who Led" by Miller, one of the write-ups is about Johannes Naas (pg 13-15). Can you all tell me: 1. When was Some Who Led written? How reliable to we think it is? 2. Are there any sources for the info? Date of landing in America? That one child came with him to America - Elizabeth (She married Johannes Landis). Does anyone know of info on Elizabeth Naas Landis? thanks - winter
Winter I have a short web page: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~sfollis/follis/naas/naas_f amilies.html That answers some of your questions about Johannes NAAS and some online sources I have found. "Some Who Led" was written in 1912 according to one of the sources. Stan Follis, Family Historian Genealogy web site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sfollis/ -----Original Message----- From: brethren-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:brethren-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of winter dellenbach Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 6:11 PM To: Brethren@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BRE] Johannes Naas Hi - from Wayne Webb's emai re: "Some Who Led" by Miller, one of the write-ups is about Johannes Naas (pg 13-15). Can you all tell me: 1. When was Some Who Led written? How reliable to we think it is? 2. Are there any sources for the info? Date of landing in America? That one child came with him to America - Elizabeth (She married Johannes Landis). Does anyone know of info on Elizabeth Naas Landis? thanks - winter
Wyne, I would be interested in participating. I would like to see places named also as in doing my research I sometimes only had this info versus the congregation name. So - for what it is worth, I would find that helpful and maybe others would also. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wayne Webb" <SpiWebb@aol.com> To: "Sharon" <osgen@verizon.net>; "Brethren Mailing List" <brethren@rootsweb.com>; <montgomery_co_oh@rootsweb.com>; <ohmiami@rootsweb.com>; "Robin Poeschek" <robinpoeschek@shaw.ca> Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 8:26 PM Subject: [BRE] Some Who Led by D. L. Miller & Galen B. Royer #2 (Volunteers) > Evening Lists, > > Since several people seemed intrigued by the idea of volunteering to > aid in the creation of keywords for the Some Who Led web site I thought a > word to the wise in how it should work. > > Those interested in participating would send an email to me denoting > their willingness to participate. After I have some five or six willing I > will assign them a range of pages to work on. Each person would enter the > proper information into the box to the bottom right corner. They can do > four ro five pages, or whatever feels comfortable to them per session, and > send the email. I will then on a periodical basis update the web site to > reflect those changes. The follow lines is an example of how the email is > when I receive it; minus the opening and closing quotes. > > "001.jpg ~~ > ____________________________________________ > 008.jpg ~~ > ____________________________________________ > 073.jpg ~~ > Comments: > Jacob Wine, George Wine, George Wein, Philadelphia, Pa., York County, Pa. > Little Canowago congregation, Michael Wine, Susanna Miller, Frederick, > Md., Shenandoah County, Va., Forestville, Va., John Wine, Elizabeth > Garber, Elder Martin Garber, Flat Rock, Va., Jacob Wine, John Garber, > Catherine Neff, John Neff, Daniel P. Wine, Page County, Va., ~~ > ____________________________________________ > 074.jpg ~~ > Comments: > Jacob Price, New Market, Va., West Virginia, Ohio, Prince of Peace, Civil > War, Brother John Kline, Hardy Co.,W.Va., Pendleton Co., W.Va, Flat Rock > church, ~~ > ____________________________________________ > 075.jpg ~~ " > > What information do we need to enter keyword about? Since Robin was > kind enough to show what it would look like a few rules on what is needed. > Obviously we want every person mentioned with the women denoted by both > their maiden and married names. Robin correctly entered Susanna Miller. > Susanna Miller would also entered as Susanna Wine. Yes, it may seem odd > but in the long run it works because someone may only known of "Mrs. > Susanna Wine" and not know her maiden name or the name of her husband. > > Galen B. Royer aand Daniel Long Miller, more commonly known as D. L. > Miller, would be entered two or three different ways. As you can see on > the metadata I already have entered they each appear several different > times under variants. Again this is trying to be as helpful as possible. > > Now as to places. This presents a small problem. Yes, we would like > to know all the instances of a county or city. I believe that in the > entirety of the project this would be cumbersome. What I have done in the > material I have completed is to create keywords for the churches and > congregations and any other church body. Even if the church mentioned was > not a German Baptist church I recorded it. I also created index entries > for institutions (Virginia Normal College, Huntingdon Normal School, etc. > etc.) and any companies mentioned. I have also entered any references to > periodicals Brethren related such as the Primitive Christian, Brethren > Family Almanac, etc., etc. > > I am not saying that the way I view this is either right or wrong. > Once I get the five or six volunteers I would like we will mutually settle > on a schema to follow. Perhaps it may include counties and cities. > > Thank you to the two people who did seem to be interested in > participating. > > Wayne Webb > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > Support Our Sponsoring Agency > The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) > For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:McAdamsr@hotmail.com > ------------------------ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1386 - Release Date: 4/18/2008 > 5:24 PM > >
Evening Lists, Since several people seemed intrigued by the idea of volunteering to aid in the creation of keywords for the Some Who Led web site I thought a word to the wise in how it should work. Those interested in participating would send an email to me denoting their willingness to participate. After I have some five or six willing I will assign them a range of pages to work on. Each person would enter the proper information into the box to the bottom right corner. They can do four ro five pages, or whatever feels comfortable to them per session, and send the email. I will then on a periodical basis update the web site to reflect those changes. The follow lines is an example of how the email is when I receive it; minus the opening and closing quotes. "001.jpg ~~ ____________________________________________ 008.jpg ~~ ____________________________________________ 073.jpg ~~ Comments: Jacob Wine, George Wine, George Wein, Philadelphia, Pa., York County, Pa. Little Canowago congregation, Michael Wine, Susanna Miller, Frederick, Md., Shenandoah County, Va., Forestville, Va., John Wine, Elizabeth Garber, Elder Martin Garber, Flat Rock, Va., Jacob Wine, John Garber, Catherine Neff, John Neff, Daniel P. Wine, Page County, Va., ~~ ____________________________________________ 074.jpg ~~ Comments: Jacob Price, New Market, Va., West Virginia, Ohio, Prince of Peace, Civil War, Brother John Kline, Hardy Co.,W.Va., Pendleton Co., W.Va, Flat Rock church, ~~ ____________________________________________ 075.jpg ~~ " What information do we need to enter keyword about? Since Robin was kind enough to show what it would look like a few rules on what is needed. Obviously we want every person mentioned with the women denoted by both their maiden and married names. Robin correctly entered Susanna Miller. Susanna Miller would also entered as Susanna Wine. Yes, it may seem odd but in the long run it works because someone may only known of "Mrs. Susanna Wine" and not know her maiden name or the name of her husband. Galen B. Royer aand Daniel Long Miller, more commonly known as D. L. Miller, would be entered two or three different ways. As you can see on the metadata I already have entered they each appear several different times under variants. Again this is trying to be as helpful as possible. Now as to places. This presents a small problem. Yes, we would like to know all the instances of a county or city. I believe that in the entirety of the project this would be cumbersome. What I have done in the material I have completed is to create keywords for the churches and congregations and any other church body. Even if the church mentioned was not a German Baptist church I recorded it. I also created index entries for institutions (Virginia Normal College, Huntingdon Normal School, etc. etc.) and any companies mentioned. I have also entered any references to periodicals Brethren related such as the Primitive Christian, Brethren Family Almanac, etc., etc. I am not saying that the way I view this is either right or wrong. Once I get the five or six volunteers I would like we will mutually settle on a schema to follow. Perhaps it may include counties and cities. Thank you to the two people who did seem to be interested in participating. Wayne Webb
Wilbur listed Magdalena as born 1789 in Berks Co PA d/o Christian Schlechty and Barbara Barry. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Carpenter" <rcarpenter2@charter.net> To: <brethren@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 1:34 PM Subject: Re: [BRE] Jacob PUTERBAUGH > Does anyone know tha ancestry of the Schlechty family? > > Robert Carpenter > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "geshoneyman" <ghoneyman@woh.rr.com> > To: <brethren@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 1:20 PM > Subject: Re: [BRE] Jacob PUTERBAUGH > > >> The late Wilbur Linder of Portland IN was by far the most authorative on >> the >> Butterbaugh-Puterbaugh-Puderbaugh family. In one of the letters that he >> sent me he listed the children of Jacob Puderbaugh Jr, by Magdalena >> Schlechty
Afternoon List, As part of my ongoing archival project of German Baptist church related material I have posted online a sample of one of the books in my collection. I offer it for your reading pleasure. There are no strings attached but I do offer these words of advice. You may have trouble printing it depending on your computer. I can not control this and offer no solutions to this problem. You will not be able to "right-click" the image and save it to your computer. There may be some other problems that I am not aware of - no warranty comes with the material. For those of you with dial-up modems you will likely have problems with the images in the film strip at the bottom of the page. I know I did when the site was created. Your web browser will likely time out and not paint all the images. In their stead will be just a place-holder. Clicking on the image still serves the same function - it takes you to that page. Those with a faster connection to the Internet should have no problems. How it would appear on a Web TV I do not know. Web site creation for that crowd offers difficulties. The book contains the biographies of a sampling of prominent, and some not so well-known, ministers and elders of the German Baptist church of the 19th and early 20th Century. The graphics were scanned individually and then the book in its entirety was typeset. It represents a lot ofd work on the part of myself so I do hope that you enjoy it. I am looking for a select few individuals willing to help me create keywords, such as shown on the pages. What is needed is the keywords from the individual pages to be typed into the block to the bottom right and then emailed to me. Let us see how many are willing to aid in this and how many just want the book with no effort on their part. Takers and no givers! This web site is a test bed to see how the technology works and how to set up an aesthetically appealing site. It, with several other works, will hopefully be the start of something that will attract attention so that others of it's kind can be worked on. I am looking for critiques on the page. Please do not send an email asking for a serarch engine. Yes, there is no search engine as you may have noticed. You need keywords to create a search engine plus the program that can eventually be obtained to create the search engine. As stated, a few readers can facilitate this by taking the time to email them. One person to take a range of pages and one or several others to take another range of pages and soon it would be done. Then a search engine program can be purchased to create one. The one thing needed is a Javascript routine to include a "next" & "previous" page button on each page. I do not know how to create such a script as I am not a programmer. To create each page and then include on it these buttons is very time consuming thus requiring a script to accomplish it. You try coding this many pages, and more, and soon you will see what I mean. If you go to the "Contents" page (pages 7 and 8) you will see an alphabetical listing of the biographies. They are all capable of being clicked with your mouse which will take you to that page. Furthermore, if you scroll using the film strip at the bottom to page 225 there is an index. You can clck on the number and it will take you to that page. My thanks to Mr. Dennis Roth for hosting this site for me. His willingness to step up to the plate is most welcome and admired. Please, no emails asking something that was already covered in this email. Read the email if you have any questions. And lastly. You may pass this email along to any mailing lists you would like to. However, please include the entirety of the email and not just the web site link. http://www.brethrennetwork.com/orwahist/books/001_some_who_led/ Wayne Webb Editor: Brethren Roots P.S. I sure do write a disjointed email huh! Sure wish I had finished school. <grin>
Does anyone know tha ancestry of the Schlechty family? Robert Carpenter ----- Original Message ----- From: "geshoneyman" <ghoneyman@woh.rr.com> To: <brethren@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 1:20 PM Subject: Re: [BRE] Jacob PUTERBAUGH > The late Wilbur Linder of Portland IN was by far the most authorative on > the > Butterbaugh-Puterbaugh-Puderbaugh family. In one of the letters that he > sent me he listed the children of Jacob Puderbaugh Jr, by Magdalena > Schlechty as John Allen 1810 m Mary Ann Michael, Jacob 1811 m Sarah > Porter, > Susannah 1812 m James McFarland, Mary "Polly" 1814 m John Fouts, David > 1815 > m Elizabeth Michael, Barbara 1817 m Samuel Michael, Fannie 1820 m James > Cue, > Henry Michael, John Aiken, Elizabeth 1822 m George Washington Werst, > Catherine c1823/4 m ?David Reith, Samuel 1825 m Elizabeth Porter, Jesse > 1827 > m Mary Michael, Lydia 1829 m Decatur Werst and Magdalena 1830-circa 1848. > > In the article he wrote for the Mennonite Family History in 1983 he names > Jacob Puderbaugh Jr's sister Elizabeth 1786-1866 wife of Jonathan Hoover > as > living in Henrietta PA. Wilbur did not identify an Elizabeth born in > 1776. > > I have been told that Wilbur's research material was donated to the Allen > County Public Library in Ft. Wayne IN. Can anyone verify this? > > Gale > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rebecca Stephens" <blhstair1@bright.net> > To: <brethren@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 7:58 PM > Subject: [BRE] Jacob PUTERBAUGH > > >> Can anyone tell me how many children were born from his first marriage >> to Magdalena. >> Was Elizabeth Puterbaugh 1776-1851 Jacob's sister? I'd greatly >> appreciate any help. >> Thank you, >> Rebecca > > > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > Support Our Sponsoring Agency > The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) > For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:McAdamsr@hotmail.com > ------------------------ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
The late Wilbur Linder of Portland IN was by far the most authorative on the Butterbaugh-Puterbaugh-Puderbaugh family. In one of the letters that he sent me he listed the children of Jacob Puderbaugh Jr, by Magdalena Schlechty as John Allen 1810 m Mary Ann Michael, Jacob 1811 m Sarah Porter, Susannah 1812 m James McFarland, Mary "Polly" 1814 m John Fouts, David 1815 m Elizabeth Michael, Barbara 1817 m Samuel Michael, Fannie 1820 m James Cue, Henry Michael, John Aiken, Elizabeth 1822 m George Washington Werst, Catherine c1823/4 m ?David Reith, Samuel 1825 m Elizabeth Porter, Jesse 1827 m Mary Michael, Lydia 1829 m Decatur Werst and Magdalena 1830-circa 1848. In the article he wrote for the Mennonite Family History in 1983 he names Jacob Puderbaugh Jr's sister Elizabeth 1786-1866 wife of Jonathan Hoover as living in Henrietta PA. Wilbur did not identify an Elizabeth born in 1776. I have been told that Wilbur's research material was donated to the Allen County Public Library in Ft. Wayne IN. Can anyone verify this? Gale ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rebecca Stephens" <blhstair1@bright.net> To: <brethren@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 7:58 PM Subject: [BRE] Jacob PUTERBAUGH > Can anyone tell me how many children were born from his first marriage > to Magdalena. > Was Elizabeth Puterbaugh 1776-1851 Jacob's sister? I'd greatly > appreciate any help. > Thank you, > Rebecca
The full title is: OUR BRETHREN COUSINS The Puterbaugh/Butterbaugh Immigrant Brothers of 1752 by Wilbur Linder Mennonite Family History, January 1983 Page 28-33 Dennis Message: 3 Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:50:14 +0000 From: "k. kensinger" <khkensinger@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [BRE] Jacob PUTERBAUGH To: <brethren@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <BAY107-W49891A8FC2BFD8D21F23FCA8E40@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Could you tell me the source of the article? I have a Puterbaugh ancestor from Morrisons Cove, PA Ken> Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 07:29:51 -0700> I have an article called "The Puterbaugh/Butterbaugh Immigrants Brothers > of 1752", >
Could you tell me the source of the article? I have a Puterbaugh ancestor from Morrisons Cove, PA Ken> Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 07:29:51 -0700> I have an article called "The Puterbaugh/Butterbaugh Immigrants Brothers > of 1752", > _________________________________________________________________ Use video conversation to talk face-to-face with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_messenger_video_042008
Hi Rebecca: I too am working on the B/PUTERBAUGH family history and saw your email and I have a couple questions for you. Are you working on the same history? If so, what is your direct line? I probably missed the first email on this subject so can you tell me more about who you are talking about. Who was first married to Magdalena? Who were the parents of Elizabeth Puterbaugh you mention? Any additional info will be greatly appreciated. Bob
I have an article called "The Puterbaugh/Butterbaugh Immigrants Brothers of 1752", can you give me more info on Jacob & Magdalena? I found a Jacob that married Magdalena Schlechty (13 children) 2nd marriage Mrs. Elizabeth (Teeter) Wise (7 Children), with a sister Elizabeth but her birth & death were Jan. 26, 1786-Oct 23, 1866. Is this the right family? Dennis > Can anyone tell me how many children were born from his first marriage > to Magdalena. > Was Elizabeth Puterbaugh 1776-1851 Jacob's sister? I'd greatly > appreciate any help. > Thank you, > Rebecca
Galen- did you get my offline message? Thought your address was DGBERRY@aol.com also. Thanks- (about David Kreider)- from hawkwind275@yahoo.com brethren-request@rootsweb.com wrote: Plain digests are sent to subscribers with all posts listed in one long email. The alternative is MIME digests, which for many subscribers will appear with each post as an individual attachment, although for others, there is just one attachment. The default digest delivery is Plain, but if you want your digest in MIME, please contact us at BRETHREN-admin@rootsweb.com directly and we'll switch you over. To reply to a message, quote only that specific message, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying. To browse the archives, visit http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=brethren Thanks, your co-moderators BRETHREN-admin@rootsweb.com ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Today's Topics: 1. Re: Probably the last (Mary Elizabeth Stump) 2. Re: FOGB newsletter that had David Kreider family in it (Dgbieri@aol.com) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 06:04:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Mary Elizabeth Stump Subject: Re: [BRE] Probably the last To: brethren@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <966552.39157.qm@web82703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Merle, I'm still wondering if you received the packet of items I mailed you quite a while back? You and the e-mails I read ref. trying to complete my husband's Francis Stump-David Washabaugh line were helful and I tried to return the courtesy. May I have your response? M.E.Stump ----- Original Message ---- From: Mary Elizabeth Stump To: Merle Rummel Sent: Monday, April 7, 2008 10:32:14 AM Subject: [BRE] Probably the last Hi Merle, Just read your e-mail about needing info ref. people I cannot help you with. However, I think this may mean something to you. I have just cleared - page-by-page - of the last file binder of my husband's which he had labeled: "Census Records." This contained, not only hand-written census records from microfilm on STUMP. but literally jillions of what he must have considered "collateral" family names. Only thing that may interest you was a pencilled note "History of HAZELCREEK Baptist Church" and a film number -- 0156901 item 2. I'm guessing this is something from the Salt Lake City Library, but nothing else identifying except it was stuck to a census record on Muhlenberg County KY. I seem to remember some of the messages mentioned some Brethren had sort of moved over to Baptist churches in some places. Did you receive the package of snail mail I sent sometime back? Best ever, Liz Stump ------------------------ Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN ------------------------ Support Our Sponsoring Agency The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:McAdamsr@hotmail.com ------------------------ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 17:17:09 EDT From: Dgbieri@aol.com Subject: Re: [BRE] FOGB newsletter that had David Kreider family in it To: brethren@rootsweb.com Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" What date/issue are you looking for? I have a stack of older FOGB newsletters and can take a look. Galen **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolcmp00300000002850) ------------------------------ To contact the BRETHREN list administrator, send an email to BRETHREN-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the BRETHREN mailing list, send an email to BRETHREN@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of BRETHREN Digest, Vol 3, Issue 138 **************************************** --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
Can anyone tell me how many children were born from his first marriage to Magdalena. Was Elizabeth Puterbaugh 1776-1851 Jacob's sister? I'd greatly appreciate any help. Thank you, Rebecca
Ditto to what Dwayne said about Brethren being married by other denominations. The same caution regarding infant baptism records in Europe. A number of Anabaptists in Switzerland allowed their children to be baptized in the state sanctioned Reformed Church, to avoid persecution, such as having their children taken from them. Bill Thomas -----Original Message----- From: brethren-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:brethren-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dwayne Wrightsman Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 11:11 PM To: brethren@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BRE] Jacob Mack m. Hannah Engelhard, 1752 David, You need to be a little careful about marriages. Brethren and Mennonites were often married by Lutheran and Reformed ministers in Pennsylvania during the 1700s for various reasons, some legal, some having to do with location, convenience, timing, etc. Such a marriage did not necessarily mean that the couple had changed faith. An example is John Brubacher/Brubaker of Cocalico who married Anna Meyer/Myers of Bethel on May 1, 1774. They were married by the Lutheran minister, John Casper Stoever, who traveled far and wide and married hundreds of young couples throughout eastern Pennsylvania. John and Anna Meyer Brubaker were Anabaptists and remained so all their lives. Their Brethren Brubaker descendants numbered in the thousands. Baptisms of the children, of course, were another matter. Dwayne Wrightsman
Considerable material concerning this Danner family is to be found in Stoner Brethren by Richard Weber, 1993. It states Samuel Sr died near Braytown,IN; Samuel Jr. died in Muhlenberg County, KY Milton Cook _____________________________________________________________ Give your kids the best learning environment. Click now for great home school options! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2121/fc/Ioyw6i3nwocDfOmaDVAdd5K9HnzwVZL2b3l3qEv1vUgaH8bk7rJ6Sc/
The Jacob Puderbaugh the 2nd of this post was born in Bedford Co PA son of Jacob Puterbaugh Sr. & Susannah (unknown; not Ulrich as some claim) and married 1) c1809 Magdalena Schlechty 1789-1831, 2) 22 Mar 1833 Miami Co OH, Elizabeth Teeter 1805-1853 daughter of Abraham Teeter Jr. & Hannah Paul and widow of Johannes/John Wise the 3rd. After the deaths of both of his wives in Darke Co OH, Jacob moved with part of his 19 surviving children to near North Manchester, Wabash Co IN and later with some of them to near Ozawkie KS where he died. The eldest known child, Jacob Puterbaugh the 3rd 1810 -1894 m Sarah Porter. There was a daughter Catherine, however she was deceased when her father Jacob the 2nd wrote his will 20 Jan 1858, "I appoint David Reith as guardian for the heirs of my daughter Cathrine". It is uncertain who her husband or children were, however the naming of David Reith suggests he may be the children's father. This does not fit the Wells Co IN biographical information as given for Catherine Puterbaugh Roe. Checking the Gospel Messenger index under the surname spellings of Roe, Row Rowe, I find no Ezekiel or Catherine. I have no information regarding a Jacob Puterbaugh and wife Rebecca Noffsinger. Gale ----- Original Message ----- From: <KTompk7744@aol.com> To: <brethren@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 2:14 PM Subject: [BRE] Jacob Puderbaugh > Interesting. In the Jefferson County Genealogical Society's tombstone > inscription book, "Tombstone Inscriptions and Burials, Jefferson County, > Kansas, > 1854-1986," I find a burial record for Jacob Puderbaugh with apparently > matching dates in Jefferson County, KS: > > Puderbaugh, Jacob, 5 Feb 1788 - 11 April 1865 OZWK > > indicating that he is buried in Ozawkie Cemetery. However, while there > are > many listings for Puderbaughs in Ozawkie cemetery, I did not find a > listing > for Rebecca or for Catherine. No other Jacobs. > > I haven't been following the stuff about Richard Roe, so I don't know the > names involved other than Puderbaugh. However, there is a listing for > Mary > Rowe [sic], which says "See Puderbaugh, OZWK" > There are a few listings for ROE, one for ROW, and perhaps 10 for ROWE. > Might any of these be relevant? > In the same society's marriage book, I didn't find anything that seemed to > fit. > > Jan T
David, You need to be a little careful about marriages. Brethren and Mennonites were often married by Lutheran and Reformed ministers in Pennsylvania during the 1700s for various reasons, some legal, some having to do with location, convenience, timing, etc. Such a marriage did not necessarily mean that the couple had changed faith. An example is John Brubacher/Brubaker of Cocalico who married Anna Meyer/Myers of Bethel on May 1, 1774. They were married by the Lutheran minister, John Casper Stoever, who traveled far and wide and married hundreds of young couples throughout eastern Pennsylvania. John and Anna Meyer Brubaker were Anabaptists and remained so all their lives. Their Brethren Brubaker descendants numbered in the thousands. Baptisms of the children, of course, were another matter. Dwayne Wrightsman ----- Original Message ----- From: <myerswd@juno.com> To: <brethren@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 7:50 PM Subject: [BRE] Jacob Mack m. Hannah Engelhard, 1752 >I was doing some research in Philadelphia Co., PA records and came across > the following marriage. I had no idea that Jacob Mack, grandson of > Alexander Mack (b. 1679), had belonged to a non-Brethren church. Rev. > Ankrum says nothing about this in "Alexander Mack the Tunker and > Descendants" but he has the same marriage date so he must have been aware > of this record. Makes me wonder if some of the Mack children from this > marriage were baptized in this church. Those records weren't available > on this website but I may be able to find them in our downtown library. > > David Myers > > ------------------------------------ > Church: Part I - ST. MICHAEL'S & ZION LUTHERAN CHURCH Marriages > 1745-1760: Philadelphia, PA. > > Contributed for use in USGenWeb Archives by Joe Patterson and Judy Banja > (jpatter@epix.net jbanja@email.msn.com). > > Pennsylvania Archives. Second Series. Published under direction of > Matthew S. Quay, Secretary of the Commonwealth. > Edited by John B. Linn and Wm. H. Egle, M.D. Vol. IX. > Harrisburg: Lane S. Hart, State printer 1880. > "St. Michael's and Zion Church, Philadelphia," pp. 287-311. > > Frederick S Weiser and Debra D Smith CGRS published a 2 volume set on St > Michael's Evangelical Church, Germantown [now part of Philadelphia] PA > for the years 1741-1841. The publisher was Picton Press in Rockport ME. > > 1752. > October 16, Jacob Maak and Hannah Engelhard, L [date from license]. > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > Support Our Sponsoring Agency > The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) > For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:McAdamsr@hotmail.com > ------------------------ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message