Actually, the Wright family lived three different places in Richmond, IN. On N. 14th, N. 12th, and (I don't know where the third place was). The N. 14th street house has a small plaque on it. Our daughter lives on the same street. Bonnie The Wright Brothers liver for a time in Richmond, I think S 14 St. > Thanks for bringing this to my attention - > > No, I was unaware of the Beaver Creek Meeting house - so I did a study > of information on the Wrights, available on WorldConnect - > > It seems that 4 or 5 of the sons of Richard Wright (w: Elizabeth Ann > Morgan) moved from the Uwharrie River, Rowan Co NC (Brethren Church > there) - to Wayne Co KY (just west of the Cumberland Gap on the > Cumberland River headwaters). >From what I remember of that area of > Kentucky, it could have been a good farming area. > > The youngest 2 sons: Amos and Philbert Wright moved on to Washington Co > IN (Amos' first wife, Elizabeth Lowe, died in Wayne Co KY, 1806). Some > of the children of others of the family also moved to Washington Co IN, > and the eldest son, Benjamin ended up at Indianapolis IN (one daughter > married and stayed in Washington Co). Your Evan went on to Missouri - > did he stop in Indiana on the way, or did he move directly from Wayne Co > KY to Macon Co MO? > > There is a possibility that this was a Brethren Family (especially since > Amos' son, John Wright, is listed as Dunker/Brethren -in Washington Co > IN), and that the Beaver Creek Meetinghouse (Christian Church) was > originally a Baptist Brethren. I'm going to have to investigate more of > the early families in Wayne Co. Can you tell me closer where this is > located? Be aware that Amos, Philbert and their families were leaders > in the Christian Church movement in Southern Indiana -and were involved > in the movement of all the Brethren Churches there into the Disciples of > Christ, Christian, Church. I'm not surprised to have Beaver Creek named > as a Christian Church - in later times, and would not be surprised to > find that it was originally one of the Brethren Churches. We Brethren > had a habit of naming our churches after nearby Rivers and Streams, > while few others churches did. This is one of the leads I use to locate > these early Brethren Churches of Kentucky (especially if it is a Baptist > or Primitive Baptist Church). > > Just a question - since the Wright Brothers lived over here in Henry Co > IN, before moving to Dayton - and the airplane - do they fit in this > expose? - possibly Benjamin's line? > > Merle C Rummel > >> >> I am researching Evans (?C) Wright. (1762-1846) >> >> Evans Wright went to Randolph Co., Missouri by 1830. He is in the 1830 >> Randolph Co., MO census. >> >> Evans Wright died in 1846 in Macon Co., Missouri. >> >> He possibly married a Rebecca Summers in 1793 in Wayne Co., KY. >> >> She is a possible daughter to Thomas Summers who died about 1805 in >> Wayne >> Co., KY. >> >> Evans Wright is a possible son of Richard Wright. >> >> Richard Wright died in 1784 in Rowan Co., North Carolina, wife Ann. >> >> >> >> > > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > Support Our Sponsoring Agency > The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) > For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:McAdamsr@hotmail.com > ------------------------ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------ Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN ------------------------ Support Our Sponsoring Agency The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:McAdamsr@hotmail.com ------------------------ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.4.1/1522 - Release Date: 6/27/2008 8:27 AM

In The Bishop's Boys, by Tom Crouch (1989 W W Norton Co), the author devotes several pages to the Wright ancestry. The father of Wilbur & Orville Wright (not to mention Reuchlin, Lorin and Katherine, and two infant twins) was Milton Wright, who apparently was highly interested in genealogy. On p. 21, he is quoted as saying: "Dan Wright (my father) was the third son of Dan Wright, who was the third child of Benoni Wright, who was the tenth child of Samuel Wright, who was the fifth child of James Wright, who was the second son of Samuel Wright, our first American ancestor of the name, who was born in England about the year 1600, settled at Springfield, Massachusetts in 1637 or before, less than twenty years after the landing of the Pilgrim Fathers at Plymouth Rock." The family found itself in Connecticut and Vermont before joining brother Porter Wright's family in the Gennessee Valley of NY in 1813. But on p. 11: "The following year, the entire Wright clan--the elder Dan, his wife Sarah, and their four children Asahel, Porter, Dan and Eliza--pulled up stakes and moved west. They traveled overland to Olean, PA, then rode a flatboat down the Allegheny and Ohio rivers to Cincinnati. After a quick survey of available land, the family settled on a farm near Centerville, eight miles south of Dayton..." Which would have convinced me they were always in Montgomery County, Ohio, if the next two pages weren't devoted to the emigration of Dan and Catherine Reeder Wright and their two sons, Samuel & Harvey on to Rush County, Indiana. Four more children were born in Indiana, including Sarah (1824),Milton (1828), William (1832) and Kate (1834, died at birth). There's a good deal of detail in this chapter about Rush County in its frontier days. When Milton was 12, his father purchased a farm in Orange Twp, Fayette County, IN. The family's religious orientation isn't clear in skimming this chapter. Each of Catherine Reeder Wright's surviving sons chose the church as a career. She was Presbyterian but attended the nearby Methodist Episcopal. Son Harvey "grew up to be a Primitive Baptist minister." Son Samuel died of typhoid before completing his studies. Son William became a United Brethren preacher. And Milton, father of the famous Wright Brothers, joined the Church of the United Brethren in Christ. I think that may be the fancy name for United Brethren, associated with Otterbein. The fact that the author refers to UB'ers as "the Brethren" tends to confuse me. After Milton's marriage to Susan Koerner, they moved around enough that I lost track. Marion, Dublin, Williamsburg, New Castle, Millville, Hartsville, Grant County..... I think that at one point the family lived in Iowa. Anyway, it all sounds possible that they may have kinfolk in Indiana. At our house, we were much more interested in Reuchlin Wright, who settled on a farm near Tonganoxie, KS. His daughter married a McLouth banker, and my mom, as a high school student, sometimes babysat for their kids. JT **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)

The Wright Brothers  liver for a time in Richmond, I think S 14 St.  > Thanks for bringing this to my attention - > > No, I was unaware of the Beaver Creek Meeting house - so I did a study > of information on the Wrights, available on WorldConnect - > > It seems that 4 or 5 of the sons of Richard Wright (w: Elizabeth Ann > Morgan) moved from the Uwharrie River, Rowan Co NC (Brethren Church > there) - to Wayne Co KY (just west of the Cumberland Gap on the > Cumberland River headwaters). >From what I remember of that area of > Kentucky, it could have been a good farming area. > > The youngest 2 sons: Amos and Philbert Wright moved on to Washington Co > IN (Amos' first wife, Elizabeth Lowe, died in Wayne Co KY, 1806). Some > of the children of others of the family also moved to Washington Co IN, > and the eldest son, Benjamin ended up at Indianapolis IN (one daughter > married and stayed in Washington Co). Your Evan went on to Missouri - > did he stop in Indiana on the way, or did he move directly from Wayne Co > KY to Macon Co MO? > > There is a possibility that this was a Brethren Family (especially since > Amos' son, John Wright, is listed as Dunker/Brethren -in Washington Co > IN), and that the Beaver Creek Meetinghouse (Christian Church) was > originally a Baptist Brethren. I'm going to have to investigate more of > the early families in Wayne Co. Can you tell me closer where this is > located? Be aware that Amos, Philbert and their families were leaders > in the Christian Church movement in Southern Indiana -and were involved > in the movement of all the Brethren Churches there into the Disciples of > Christ, Christian, Church. I'm not surprised to have Beaver Creek named > as a Christian Church - in later times, and would not be surprised to > find that it was originally one of the Brethren Churches. We Brethren > had a habit of naming our churches after nearby Rivers and Streams, > while few others churches did. This is one of the leads I use to locate > these early Brethren Churches of Kentucky (especially if it is a Baptist > or Primitive Baptist Church). > > Just a question - since the Wright Brothers lived over here in Henry Co > IN, before moving to Dayton - and the airplane - do they fit in this > expose? - possibly Benjamin's line? > > Merle C Rummel > >> >> I am researching Evans (?C) Wright. (1762-1846) >> >> Evans Wright went to Randolph Co., Missouri by 1830. He is in the 1830 >> Randolph Co., MO census. >> >> Evans Wright died in 1846 in Macon Co., Missouri. >> >> He possibly married a Rebecca Summers in 1793 in Wayne Co., KY. >> >> She is a possible daughter to Thomas Summers who died about 1805 in >> Wayne >> Co., KY. >> >> Evans Wright is a possible son of Richard Wright. >> >> Richard Wright died in 1784 in Rowan Co., North Carolina, wife Ann. >> >> >> >> > > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > Support Our Sponsoring Agency > The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) > For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:McAdamsr@hotmail.com > ------------------------ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks for bringing this to my attention - No, I was unaware of the Beaver Creek Meeting house - so I did a study of information on the Wrights, available on WorldConnect - It seems that 4 or 5 of the sons of Richard Wright (w: Elizabeth Ann Morgan) moved from the Uwharrie River, Rowan Co NC (Brethren Church there) - to Wayne Co KY (just west of the Cumberland Gap on the Cumberland River headwaters). From what I remember of that area of Kentucky, it could have been a good farming area. The youngest 2 sons: Amos and Philbert Wright moved on to Washington Co IN (Amos' first wife, Elizabeth Lowe, died in Wayne Co KY, 1806). Some of the children of others of the family also moved to Washington Co IN, and the eldest son, Benjamin ended up at Indianapolis IN (one daughter married and stayed in Washington Co). Your Evan went on to Missouri - did he stop in Indiana on the way, or did he move directly from Wayne Co KY to Macon Co MO? There is a possibility that this was a Brethren Family (especially since Amos' son, John Wright, is listed as Dunker/Brethren -in Washington Co IN), and that the Beaver Creek Meetinghouse (Christian Church) was originally a Baptist Brethren. I'm going to have to investigate more of the early families in Wayne Co. Can you tell me closer where this is located? Be aware that Amos, Philbert and their families were leaders in the Christian Church movement in Southern Indiana -and were involved in the movement of all the Brethren Churches there into the Disciples of Christ, Christian, Church. I'm not surprised to have Beaver Creek named as a Christian Church - in later times, and would not be surprised to find that it was originally one of the Brethren Churches. We Brethren had a habit of naming our churches after nearby Rivers and Streams, while few others churches did. This is one of the leads I use to locate these early Brethren Churches of Kentucky (especially if it is a Baptist or Primitive Baptist Church). Just a question - since the Wright Brothers lived over here in Henry Co IN, before moving to Dayton - and the airplane - do they fit in this expose? - possibly Benjamin's line? Merle C Rummel > > I am researching Evans (?C) Wright. (1762-1846) > > Evans Wright went to Randolph Co., Missouri by 1830. He is in the 1830 > Randolph Co., MO census. > > Evans Wright died in 1846 in Macon Co., Missouri. > > He possibly married a Rebecca Summers in 1793 in Wayne Co., KY. > > She is a possible daughter to Thomas Summers who died about 1805 in Wayne > Co., KY. > > Evans Wright is a possible son of Richard Wright. > > Richard Wright died in 1784 in Rowan Co., North Carolina, wife Ann. > > > >

Would anyone have a picture of the Salem Church of the Brethren that was located on the Marshall -Starke County line, other than the one that was in the 1952 Winger (Wenger?) book. Karin Rettinger

Having attended a lot of older churches in my youth, I can say that many had a motif in one of their stained glass windows, of a slender Roman cross, encircled by a golden crown at an angle, at the intersection of the cross arm. Churches were c. 1890 - 1930 or so. I don't remember these as being Church of the Brethren, but usually Methodist or perhaps Congregational or Presbyterian. There are a number of older gospel songs that also bring out this theme - "If you don't have the cross, then you can't wear the crown.." or words to that effect. Could someone in the Cedar Rapids area help you out by just checking out the area two blocks from your mother's childhood home to find churches. After the waters go down, of course. Galen **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)

I don't know anything about Burkittsville. Another thing to remember, though, unless you are in a town (ex. Frederick), it quickly becomes miles & miles of open farmland (above Frederick). Remember, too, farms are huge so the only scenery in places is miles & miles of corn or whatever. (Pretty barren fields in winter.) If / when you find a store or gas station, ask as many directions cos you might not find another person for awhile. I also took a cooler, bought ice, and packed drinks. It helped when in the middle of nowhere. Judy On 6/26/08, john shafer <shaferjp@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Liz, > > I can't be a lot of help but I have seen the Pleasant View Church at Burkittsville, and the attached cemetery. The best way to get out there from DC is to take I-270 North toward Frederick and then get on I-70 West. I don't remember anyone being around the church and I was there on a Saturday. Google Mid-Atlantic District Church of the Brethren and click on churches, and you can get map/directions. The number listed for Pleasant view is 301-371-7707. > > John Shafer> From: lizgwalker@cox.net> Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 13:00:22 -0500> To: brethren@rootsweb.com> Subject: [BRE] Visit to Maryland> > > I'm making my first time trip to Washington, D.C. next month and > would like to drive up to the Pleasant View Church in Burkittsville, > Maryland where some of my ancestors worshipped and are buried. Does > anyone on the list live near there or has anyone visited there? I'd > like to know if it is difficult to find, or get to from D.C. If I > visit on a Saturday would there be anyone there or do I need to let > them know I'm coming? Also, does anyone know if they have any early > records (birth, marriage, death) there, or is the book, "A Pleasant > View" the best source for the early church information. I have > written the church in past but didn't receive a response. I've also > done a Mapquest on the trip but I know that is no match for first > hand experience.> > Any thoughts, suggestions, advise, would be appreciated. You can ! > ! > respond off list if you like.> > Thanks, Liz Walker>

Liz, I can't be a lot of help but I have seen the Pleasant View Church at Burkittsville, and the attached cemetery. The best way to get out there from DC is to take I-270 North toward Frederick and then get on I-70 West. I don't remember anyone being around the church and I was there on a Saturday. Google Mid-Atlantic District Church of the Brethren and click on churches, and you can get map/directions. The number listed for Pleasant view is 301-371-7707. John Shafer> From: lizgwalker@cox.net> Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 13:00:22 -0500> To: brethren@rootsweb.com> Subject: [BRE] Visit to Maryland> > > I'm making my first time trip to Washington, D.C. next month and > would like to drive up to the Pleasant View Church in Burkittsville, > Maryland where some of my ancestors worshipped and are buried. Does > anyone on the list live near there or has anyone visited there? I'd > like to know if it is difficult to find, or get to from D.C. If I > visit on a Saturday would there be anyone there or do I need to let > them know I'm coming? Also, does anyone know if they have any early > records (birth, marriage, death) there, or is the book, "A Pleasant > View" the best source for the early church information. I have > written the church in past but didn't receive a response. I've also > done a Mapquest on the trip but I know that is no match for first > hand experience.> > Any thoughts, suggestions, advise, would be appreciated. You can > respond off list if you like.> > Thanks, Liz Walker> > ------------------------> Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN> ------------------------> Support Our Sponsoring Agency> The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG)> For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:McAdamsr@hotmail.com> ------------------------> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Earn cashback on your purchases with Live Search - the search that pays you back! http://search.live.com/cashback/?&pkw=form=MIJAAF/publ=HMTGL/crea=earncashback

I found the following news account at the Decatur Co., IA site, USGenWeb (RootsWeb) and thought that it might be an interesting item to post. You always hear that lightning is a lot more dangerous than people realize and I guess this situation provides some proof for that. David Myers ============================ Decatur County Journal. June 2l, l888. KILLED BY LIGHTNING. S.A. GARBER IS STRUCK BY LIGHTNING AND INSTANTLY KILLED WHILE ON THE ROAD HOME FROM LEON. The community was startled on last Thursday afternoon when the news came announcing that SAMUAL [sic] A. GARBER, of Center Township, had been killed by lightning. At that time this vicinity was visited by a thunderstorm and shortly before the rain began to fall, MR. GARBER, in company with his daughter, FANNIE, got into their buggy and started for home. When near the OSCAR BRAN place, one and one-half miles northeast of Leon, a clap of thunder came, followed by a sharp flash of lightning which struck and instantly killed MR. GARBER. He was thrown to the ground, leaving his daughter in the buggy, who was stunned by the shock, while the team commenced to run and would have probably done a great deal of damage to life and property had it not been for the timely assistance of HARVE RAMBO, who had stopped at the BRAN place until after the storm. He saw the team running at full speed up the road and going out, he succeeded in stopping them. He at once proceeded to look after the lady in the buggy but was told to go and look after her father. An investigation proved that he was dead, being killed by lightning striking him at the base of the brain, fracturing the skull, which of course, must have been instant death. No other marks were visible. SAMUEL A. GARBER was an old settler in Decatur County and was one of the active, well-to-do farmers of Center Township, and was an Elder in the German Baptist Church for many years. He has resided for many years at the present home of the family, three miles northeast of Leon and was at the time of death in his 57th year. The funeral was held Saturday morning at l0 o'clock from the residence and was largely attended by friends from all over the county. REV. HOLDER, of Batavia, conducted the ceremonies. The remains were interred in the Franklin Township Cemetery. His daughter, FANNIE, who was in the buggy at the time of the accident, narrowly escaped the same fate as her father and though she was not killed, she did not entirely escape injury. As soon as possible after the accident, DR. W. VAN WERDEN was sent for who pronounced her condition a serious one, but by the proper treatment she would recover. At this writing she is doing nicely. Copied by Nancee(McMurtrey)Seifert . ____________________________________________________________ Click here to save cash and find low rates on auto loans. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3ndyIUDFUph0IId55zfxnaqLRYANjsRD2TrYmtnjrcbhpmWU/

I live as far away as you, but I have been there twice and can help some. Burkittsville is easily found since State Route 17 goes right through the center. Burkittsville Union Cemetery is easily seen from the road as you go through town. Pleasant View Church is about 2 miles north of town and is easily seen because it is not hidden. Just wander around and you will surely stumble onto it. I spent several hours in the cemetery on each of two different occasions without anyone noticing my presence. This property came into the hands of the Church in 1878 and will not have any old burials or any original records from the 18th Century. The original worship site was another half mile to the north on a side road, at Arnoldstown. There are a few old burials there, but there has been some encroachment by road construction. The Slifer Family Cemetery is a different matter. Do not try to find the old Ahalt Distillery Road, which is now impassable. Go south out of town about a mile and a half and look for a big dairy farm set back from the highway on your left. They were polite about allowing visitors and helpful about finding it, although they are not maintaining it. It is in the woods just past their farthest corn field. The Gaver Family Cemetery is probably a lost cause because it was in the way of the Union attack on the Confederate position on South Mountain in 1862. It is west of town at the foot of the mountain just as the road turns to start its climb. I have heard that the owner is not friendly. I have not tried to find it. The historic German Reform Church building built in 1829 is now the home of the South Mountain Heritage Society and the Society Museum (3 East Main St.). The Museum includes a library/archive room and exhibits and is open the 1st Sunday of the month, Noon until 3:30 (April - November). The big brick Church nearby is Lutheran and is still an active congregation. At 01:00 PM 6/26/08 -0500, Liz Walker <lizgwalker@cox.net> wrote: >I'm making my first time trip to Washington, D.C. next month and >would like to drive up to the Pleasant View Church in Burkittsville, >Maryland where some of my ancestors worshipped and are buried. Does >anyone on the list live near there or has anyone visited there? I'd >like to know if it is difficult to find, or get to from D.C. If I >visit on a Saturday would there be anyone there or do I need to let >them know I'm coming? Also, does anyone know if they have any early >records (birth, marriage, death) there, or is the book, "A Pleasant >View" the best source for the early church information. I have >written the church in past but didn't receive a response. I've also >done a Mapquest on the trip but I know that is no match for first >hand experience. > >Any thoughts, suggestions, advise, would be appreciated. You can >respond off list if you like. > >Thanks, Liz Walker > > ------------------------ >Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > Support Our Sponsoring Agency > The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) >For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:McAdamsr@hotmail.com > ------------------------ > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'm making my first time trip to Washington, D.C. next month and would like to drive up to the Pleasant View Church in Burkittsville, Maryland where some of my ancestors worshipped and are buried. Does anyone on the list live near there or has anyone visited there? I'd like to know if it is difficult to find, or get to from D.C. If I visit on a Saturday would there be anyone there or do I need to let them know I'm coming? Also, does anyone know if they have any early records (birth, marriage, death) there, or is the book, "A Pleasant View" the best source for the early church information. I have written the church in past but didn't receive a response. I've also done a Mapquest on the trip but I know that is no match for first hand experience. Any thoughts, suggestions, advise, would be appreciated. You can respond off list if you like. Thanks, Liz Walker

Hi, all. I'm new to this board and to genealogy, but I have a question about the religion of my grandfather Carl Jesse Meyers. Before I get to the logo question I should maybe just give a little background. My grandfather's parents were Michael William Meyers (1857-1930) and Ella Wheeler (1865-1915). I know nothing about the Wheeler side of the family, but Michael was born in Somerset County, PA to Martin Meyers and Sally Witt. I haven't traced the Witt family back any farther, but Martin's parents were Michael Meyers and Maria Beeghley, both of Somerset County, PA. Many members of this family were ministers in the Church of the Brethren. My great grandfather left PA with his parents, and eventually ended up in Morrill, Kansas, where he married his first wife and where all his children were born. By 1910 he was living in Cedar Rapids, Iowa with four out his five children - my grandfather Carl being the youngest son (1889-1926). The rest of my information is family lore. My grandfather died a young man, and much of what I hear is third hand - stories my grandmother, Vera Bates Meyers, used to tell her children. Not necessarily reliable. The story is - yes, I will get to the logo question - that William Meyers left the church when he married Ella. ("She was a Quaker, or something like that.") When Carl and Vera married she did not join his church - the denomination of which no one remembers - and she took some of the kids with her each Sunday, and he took my mother and another daughter with him to his church. I have quizzed my mother about the church and she remembers very little. Carl died when she was seven, and from then on all the children went to church with their mother. So here's what my mother remembers: the church was two blocks away from their home in Cedar Rapids, Iowa, it was a very small church, and it had a window or wall decoration that looked like a cross with a boat on the bottom and a crown in the middle. (This memory is from an 89 year old woman looking back to a memory more than eighty years ago when she was a young child.) But my mind immediately flashed to the logo on the Brethren Genealogy site. The cross, the wave and the circle could easily look like my mother's description. And I have found a Brethren church in Cedar Rapids that dates back to the turn of the century (20th, that is). So finally my question would be: Was there a symbol used by the Brethren back in the 1920s that would be similar to the logo used today? I guess I'm hoping that my grandfather was a member of the Brethren Church. With all the history in his family with this church it would be sad if he lost it all. (Incidentally, his father Michael William had his burial services held in 1930 in the First Brethren Church in Los Angeles, CA. Story is that he rejoined the church when he married his second wife Elva I. - with no last name known by our family.) A very long question - I hope someone reads to the end and can shed some light. Thanks, Beverly **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)

Does anyone have any dates on the Hans Adam Schneider mentioned in the message appended below?? Did he live out his life at the location mentioned, or did he move on?? I have found some clues suggesting that I might be descended from an Adam Schneider, who died in 1782 in Menallen Twp. in what is now Adams Co., and was somehow connected to the Big Conewago COB. Is it possible that this could be the same person?? Or a son or nephew?? At 01:41 PM 6/16/08 -0400, "William Thomas" <wbtst2@atlanticbb.net> wrote: >A Jacob Kitzmiller had a survey for land in what is now Annville Township, >Lebanon County, and near his lived > Hans Adam Schneider. >Then there are a >Jacob & John Kitzmiller that had land surveys in Early Township, and a John >Kitzmiller Jr. that had a survey in Cocalico Township. There was a Leonard >Kitzmiller that was on the Frederick County, MD non-enroller's list, who >owned land very near the Beaver Dam Congregation, and sold property to >Samuel Garber all in the 1770's. > >Bill Thomas > >-----Original Message----- >From: brethren-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:brethren-bounces@rootsweb.com] >On Behalf Of Dwayne Wrightsman >Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 8:42 AM >To: brethren@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [BRE] Family of George Conrad Mack,chr. 1674 (preliminary >analysis) > >David, > >Great digging on the extended Mack family! Also a very good start to >uncovering what I have called the "Schneider-Kitzmiller-Mack Nexus." Now >the marriage between old Kitzmiller and Anna Margaret Mackin makes perfect >sense since she was an "old" widow. I had presumed that she was a sister to > >all the other Mack women on the Ship Allen rather than their widowed mother. > >Thanks for this new (to me) information. > >Do you know whether or not the Christian Schneider (who married Susanna >Mack) was the same Christian Schneider who lived in Earl Township near the >Kitzmillers and their Mack wives? I think that William Thomas (of this >list) may have addressed this issue in one of his posts or at least he may >have some good clues about it. If you have already told the Pennsylvania >story of Christian and Susanna [Mack] Schneider, would you please tell it >once more. > >Dwayne Wrightsman >

And I have in the Brechner/Shaffer side of my family Grissinger/Grissing/Gresing which sometimes appears as Chrisinger/Krisinger in Somerset County, Pennsylvania. John Shafer> From: khkensinger@hotmail.com> To: brethren@rootsweb.com> Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 14:06:12 +0000> Subject: Re: [BRE] Family of George Conrad Mack, chr. 1674 (preliminary analysis)> > > I smiled a bit when I saw this post- quite a few Kensinger/Gansinger researchers believe that> Abraham Gansinger (1730-1813) married Maria Catherine Schaeffer, while many Schaeffer researchers> think she married an Abraham Kinsinger (or Kissinger). This is one popular lady!> Ken> To: brethren@rootsweb.com> Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 21:45:42 -0500> From: myerswd@juno.com> Subject: Re: [BRE] Family of George Conrad Mack, chr. 1674 (preliminary analysis)> > Emmert,> > Thanks for weighing in. I'll have to keep this in mind as I research> this family. Right now, I'm just trying to find my way around the> Kitzmiller family in the 1730-1750 time period. There is a surprising> amount of odd research that has gotten into the genealogies of this> family. Just as an example, Johannes Kitzmiller, Sr. is supposed to have> had a daughter named Maria Catharine who married Andreas Krafft. Just by> coincidence, Andreas Krafft is another one of my maternal ancestors. It> turns out that about half the Krafft researchers think that Andreas' wife> was Maria Catharine Kitzmiller, while the other half think that she was> Maria Catharine Schaefer. Hard to straighten out, especially when there> are researchers of both wives who give a specific date and place for the> marri!> age between Andreas and his wife in Germany -- and it's the same> date and place, just a different surname for the wife!> > There also are Kitzmiller researchers who think that the Christian> Schneider who died in Lancaster Co., PA in 1793 was married to a daughter> of Johannes Kitzmiller, Sr. Don't know where that one came from but it> is my hope that I can track a lot of this back to the original source and> find out what the heck is going on here. I recently was contacted by a> descendant of Christian Schneider who still lives in the New Holland> area. I hope that will lead to some progress on these families.> > David Myers> > > > On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 09:29:53 -0400 "Emmert F. Bittinger"> <ebitting@bridgewater.edu> writes:> > David, message from Emmert.> > I noted your efforts at researching the Kitzmiller family. At > > the risk > > of giving you information you already know and have, I will mention > > that the > > Kitzmiller family, or part of it, migrated from Lancast!> er County > > into what > > is now West Virginia, formerly Virginia, v> ery early, perhaps as > > early as the > > 1790s. Many Brethren and Mennonites migrated because of the > > pressures and > > antagonisms engendered during the Rev. War, because the Anabaptists > > would > > not fight for freedom from England. The Kitzmillers became members > > of the > > Brick Church of the Brethren, then when Locust Grove and Allegheny > > churches > > became independent of Brick Church (Greenland Cong.), they belonged > > there. > > The area today is near Bismark and Mt. 'Storm W. Va. I personally > > know > > members of the Kitzmiller family there. Emmert Bittinger > > ____________________________________________________________> Stuck in a dead end job?? 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Hello, Is anyone familiar with the Beaver Creek Meeting House in Wayne Co., KY? I am interested in learning more about it. On Google Books I came across a page which mentions the following: Aug 22, 1846 Evan Wright of Macon Co., Missouri conveyed to the following: Francis M Goddard, John W Vickory, Joseph Owens, trustees of the Christian Congregation at Beaver Creek Meeting House, Wayne Co.,KY all the grounds on which the meeting house lies. Thank You, Debbie Freeman

I smiled a bit when I saw this post- quite a few Kensinger/Gansinger researchers believe that Abraham Gansinger (1730-1813) married Maria Catherine Schaeffer, while many Schaeffer researchers think she married an Abraham Kinsinger (or Kissinger). This is one popular lady! Ken> To: brethren@rootsweb.com> Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 21:45:42 -0500> From: myerswd@juno.com> Subject: Re: [BRE] Family of George Conrad Mack, chr. 1674 (preliminary analysis)> > Emmert,> > Thanks for weighing in. I'll have to keep this in mind as I research> this family. Right now, I'm just trying to find my way around the> Kitzmiller family in the 1730-1750 time period. There is a surprising> amount of odd research that has gotten into the genealogies of this> family. Just as an example, Johannes Kitzmiller, Sr. is supposed to have> had a daughter named Maria Catharine who married Andreas Krafft. Just by> coincidence, Andreas Krafft is another one of my maternal ancestors. It> turns out that about half the Krafft researchers think that Andreas' wife> was Maria Catharine Kitzmiller, while the other half think that she was> Maria Catharine Schaefer. Hard to straighten out, especially when there> are researchers of both wives who give a specific date and place for the> marriage between Andreas and his wife in Germany -- and it's the same> date and place, just a different surname for the wife!> > There also are Kitzmiller researchers who think that the Christian> Schneider who died in Lancaster Co., PA in 1793 was married to a daughter> of Johannes Kitzmiller, Sr. Don't know where that one came from but it> is my hope that I can track a lot of this back to the original source and> find out what the heck is going on here. I recently was contacted by a> descendant of Christian Schneider who still lives in the New Holland> area. I hope that will lead to some progress on these families.> > David Myers> > > > On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 09:29:53 -0400 "Emmert F. Bittinger"> <ebitting@bridgewater.edu> writes:> > David, message from Emmert.> > I noted your efforts at researching the Kitzmiller family. At > > the risk > > of giving you information you already know and have, I will mention > > that the > > Kitzmiller family, or part of it, migrated from Lancaster County > > into what > > is now West Virginia, formerly Virginia, very early, perhaps as > > early as the > > 1790s. Many Brethren and Mennonites migrated because of the > > pressures and > > antagonisms engendered during the Rev. War, because the Anabaptists > > would > > not fight for freedom from England. The Kitzmillers became members > > of the > > Brick Church of the Brethren, then when Locust Grove and Allegheny > > churches > > became independent of Brick Church (Greenland Cong.), they belonged > > there. > > The area today is near Bismark and Mt. 'Storm W. Va. I personally > > know > > members of the Kitzmiller family there. Emmert Bittinger > > ____________________________________________________________> Stuck in a dead end job?? Click to start living your dreams by earning an online degree.> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3nNfaH09ZtPgB7onWxXSfqqltZDDIQyrN579v7VgyO74HBaw/> > ------------------------> Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN> ------------------------> Support Our Sponsoring Agency> The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG)> For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:McAdamsr@hotmail.com> ------------------------> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Earn cashback on your purchases with Live Search - the search that pays you back! http://search.live.com/cashback/?&pkw=form=MIJAAF/publ=HMTGL/crea=earncashback

I have received information that the church described below isn't the Trinity Lutheran in New Holland, but rather the Trinity Lutheran in the city of Lancaster. I am going to check the title page of the book again but I suspect that my correspondent is right. If that is the case, that would make it much less likely that this Johann Philip Mauck is the Johann Philip Mack who was a son of George Conrad Mack. David Myers On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 22:05:48 -0500 David Myers <myerswd@juno.com> writes: > There is a good chance that Johann Philip Mack, oldest child of > George > Conrad, also came to America. The following records are for a > church in > New Holland, a city in Earl Twp., Lancaster Co., PA. This is the > same > area that the two Mack women lived in when they married the two > Kitzmiller men. > > > "Trinity Lutheran Church records, Lancaster, Pennsylvania," Vol. 1, > 1730-1767 (1988): > > Appendix, pages 424-425. > > Philip Mauck and wife Philippine. > Son, Philip Georg, b. 22 Nov 1744, bp. 25 Nov 1744. > Sponsors -- Philip Mauer and Joh. George. > > Philip Mauck and wife Philippine. > Daughter, Anna Barbara, b. 15 Jan 1746, bp. 26 Jan 1746. > Sponsors -- Phil. Mauer, Val. Kroninger and A. Bretzin. > > > This Philip Mauck apparently had just arrived in America. There is > a > Johann Philippes [sic?] Mauck listed as a passenger on the ship > Phoenix, > which arrived in Philadelphia on 20 Oct 1744. What's troublesome is > that > Philip would have had very little time to form friendships with > people > before Philip George was born 22 Nov 1744, yet he didn't use any of > the > Kitzmiller people as sponsors. If you assume that he moved to that > area > of America to be near his mother and sister, it seems really strange > that > he wouldn't use them as sponsors for his children. > > There is a listing for estate records in Lancaster Co., PA for > Philip > Mauke in 1747. I haven't ordered these yet but I assume that it's > the > same guy who had children baptized in Trinity Lutheran Church. This > would mean that he died young, at about age 49, similar to what > apparently happened to George Conrad Mack. > > David Myers ____________________________________________________________ Sweepstakes!!! Enter for your chance to WIN one of hundreds of daily prizes. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/JKFkuJi7Unnf4yqJkY2pKE2LzBSrEeo1Lb4ytSPlKHawWL617jLeXm/

Hello Merle, Thank you so much for your post. Sorry for the late response. I am catching up on my e-mail. I am slowly researching the Wright family. I am also researching the Summers, Mullenix, Sumpter families of Wayne Co., KY. If I understand it correctly some of the Wright's came to Wayne Co., KY from Rowan Co., North Carolina. I am researching Evans (?C) Wright. (1762-1846) Evans Wright went to Randolph Co., Missouri by 1830. He is in the 1830 Randolph Co., MO census. Evans Wright died in 1846 in Macon Co., Missouri. He possibly married a Rebecca Summers in 1793 in Wayne Co., KY. She is a possible daughter to Thomas Summers who died about 1805 in Wayne Co., KY. Evans Wright is a possible son of Richard Wright. Richard Wright died in 1784 in Rowan Co., North Carolina, wife Ann. If you would like more information I am willing. Thanks again, Debbie Freeman

Emmert, Thanks for weighing in. I'll have to keep this in mind as I research this family. Right now, I'm just trying to find my way around the Kitzmiller family in the 1730-1750 time period. There is a surprising amount of odd research that has gotten into the genealogies of this family. Just as an example, Johannes Kitzmiller, Sr. is supposed to have had a daughter named Maria Catharine who married Andreas Krafft. Just by coincidence, Andreas Krafft is another one of my maternal ancestors. It turns out that about half the Krafft researchers think that Andreas' wife was Maria Catharine Kitzmiller, while the other half think that she was Maria Catharine Schaefer. Hard to straighten out, especially when there are researchers of both wives who give a specific date and place for the marriage between Andreas and his wife in Germany -- and it's the same date and place, just a different surname for the wife! There also are Kitzmiller researchers who think that the Christian Schneider who died in Lancaster Co., PA in 1793 was married to a daughter of Johannes Kitzmiller, Sr. Don't know where that one came from but it is my hope that I can track a lot of this back to the original source and find out what the heck is going on here. I recently was contacted by a descendant of Christian Schneider who still lives in the New Holland area. I hope that will lead to some progress on these families. David Myers On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 09:29:53 -0400 "Emmert F. Bittinger" <ebitting@bridgewater.edu> writes: > David, message from Emmert. > I noted your efforts at researching the Kitzmiller family. At > the risk > of giving you information you already know and have, I will mention > that the > Kitzmiller family, or part of it, migrated from Lancaster County > into what > is now West Virginia, formerly Virginia, very early, perhaps as > early as the > 1790s. Many Brethren and Mennonites migrated because of the > pressures and > antagonisms engendered during the Rev. War, because the Anabaptists > would > not fight for freedom from England. The Kitzmillers became members > of the > Brick Church of the Brethren, then when Locust Grove and Allegheny > churches > became independent of Brick Church (Greenland Cong.), they belonged > there. > The area today is near Bismark and Mt. 'Storm W. Va. I personally > know > members of the Kitzmiller family there. Emmert Bittinger ____________________________________________________________ Stuck in a dead end job?? Click to start living your dreams by earning an online degree. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3nNfaH09ZtPgB7onWxXSfqqltZDDIQyrN579v7VgyO74HBaw/

There was at least one Frantz family that moved to Clearfield Co, Pennsylvania and I believe they were Brethren background.   Isaac Thomas Frantz, b. 19 Apr 1867, Troutville, Clearfied Co, PA, d. 3 Jan 1942 Elk Co, Pennsylvania.  Would like to learn who his parents may have been.   Wayne Lucore