another exciting link for me, having a SELL female ancestor... now I just have to link her here...Thank thee, Wayne. Diane Kerchner On 03/28/11, A. Wayne Webb<[email protected]> wrote:Lynn & Jane, Yes, this is William Burger Sell and he was born in Huntingdon county, though later it would have been Blair county, Pennsylvania. I suspect though that this is a case of it all depending which side of the line the family lived on. In the Bedford and Huntingdon county region there are several Jacob Sells and I would have to pull some records from my dist bin to ascertain exactly whether it was Bedford or Huntingdon county. All four of the Missouri brethren of the surname of Sell were from the same set of Sell grandparents, Abraham Sell and his wife, Barbara 'Balmer' (Palmer) Sell. The Brethren elders from one branch are sons of Jacob Balmer Sell, and his wife, Elizabeth 'Burger' Sell; this would be Eld. Abraham Burger Sell, Eld. Joseph Burger Sell (1832-1903), Eld. William Burger Sell (1840-1928). Their cousin, Daniel Detweiler Sell (1843-1927), son of Daniel Sell and Rachel 'Detweiler' Sell, was also a minister and elder in Missouri. There are quite a few Sell descendants in the ministry. Each of these above men were elected in Pennsylvania, most likely in the Duncansville congregation, while all were ordained to the eldership in Missouri. In the Sell family history, penned by Eld. James Arnold Sell, he mentions this branch of the family only in regard to their father, seemingly not recognizing the importance of the Missouri family members to the Morrison's Cove region brethren and social history. When it comes to the Middle District of Pennsylvania history he mentions only two of these men, his first cousins, and then, seemingly only because it was commonly known brethren history. One event took place in 1864 and the other is a passing reference to a son of William Burger Sell. The Balmer surname is more commonly known as Palmer and this particular branch of the family comes from the Pennsylvania / Maryland border region. And the four Sell ministers are in Missouri before most people think they were. There is far more about the family within the confines of the various German Baptist Brethren newspapers, both ecumenical and family history, than is generally known. Wayne Webb Message: 3 Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 16:25:35 -0600 From: Jane Davis <[1][email protected]> Subject: Re: [BRE] Long Branch congregation, Missouri To: Brethren Genealogy Network <[2][email protected]> Message-ID: <COL119-W2797240[3][email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Lynn--This W. B. Sell is William Burger Sell, born in Huntingdon County, PA in 1840, died 1928 in Fredonia, Kansas. He was the son of Jacob B. Sell and Elizabeth Burger of Adams County, PA. He was married to first: Catherine Knoll, second: Susanna Spohn. He had eight children. I am not sure whether this would tie him to the Bedford County PA Sells, or not. Jane. ------------------------ Search the Archives at [4]http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN ------------------------ Support Our Sponsoring Agency The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) For further information contact Ron McAdams [5]mailto:[email protected] ------------------------ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [6][email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message References 1. mailto:[email protected] 2. mailto:[email protected] 3. mailto:[email protected] 4. http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN 5. mailto:[email protected] 6. mailto:[email protected]

Lynn & Jane, Yes, this is William Burger Sell and he was born in Huntingdon county, though later it would have been Blair county, Pennsylvania. I suspect though that this is a case of it all depending which side of the line the family lived on. In the Bedford and Huntingdon county region there are several Jacob Sells and I would have to pull some records from my dist bin to ascertain exactly whether it was Bedford or Huntingdon county. All four of the Missouri brethren of the surname of Sell were from the same set of Sell grandparents, Abraham Sell and his wife, Barbara 'Balmer' (Palmer) Sell. The Brethren elders from one branch are sons of Jacob Balmer Sell, and his wife, Elizabeth 'Burger' Sell; this would be Eld. Abraham Burger Sell, Eld. Joseph Burger Sell (1832-1903), Eld. William Burger Sell (1840-1928). Their cousin, Daniel Detweiler Sell (1843-1927), son of Daniel Sell and Rachel 'Detweiler' Sell, was also a minister and elder in Missouri. There are quite a few Sell descendants in the ministry. Each of these above men were elected in Pennsylvania, most likely in the Duncansville congregation, while all were ordained to the eldership in Missouri. In the Sell family history, penned by Eld. James Arnold Sell, he mentions this branch of the family only in regard to their father, seemingly not recognizing the importance of the Missouri family members to the Morrison's Cove region brethren and social history. When it comes to the Middle District of Pennsylvania history he mentions only two of these men, his first cousins, and then, seemingly only because it was commonly known brethren history. One event took place in 1864 and the other is a passing reference to a son of William Burger Sell. The Balmer surname is more commonly known as Palmer and this particular branch of the family comes from the Pennsylvania / Maryland border region. And the four Sell ministers are in Missouri before most people think they were. There is far more about the family within the confines of the various German Baptist Brethren newspapers, both ecumenical and family history, than is generally known. Wayne Webb Message: 3 Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 16:25:35 -0600 From: Jane Davis <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [BRE] Long Branch congregation, Missouri To: Brethren Genealogy Network <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Lynn--This W. B. Sell is William Burger Sell, born in Huntingdon County, PA in 1840, died 1928 in Fredonia, Kansas. He was the son of Jacob B. Sell and Elizabeth Burger of Adams County, PA. He was married to first: Catherine Knoll, second: Susanna Spohn. He had eight children. I am not sure whether this would tie him to the Bedford County PA Sells, or not. Jane.

> However, I would ask you to look for a William Riley Hendricks and his son > Aaron Ogden Hendricks here... Do you have more information on William Riley Hendricks (date of birth, etc) - the two Hendricks families of the Carolinas moved to Kentucky, and I've done some research on them, including migration on to Illinois and Missouri.. I basically followed the families for three or four generations into Kentucky, and out of it to the several states. Merle C Rummel

but of course, Merle. I have all their dates proven. Please let's share data privately thru my email addy and I can fill in your blanks. I would dearly love your sharing the data back to KY...as that is farther than I have been able to prove in my proofs of lineage...and I am the family researcher, so I promise to incorporate it into my family heritage document I am passing on in my lines. I am also documenting the Lierle(y) interconnections as they are also all family to me, having intermarried twice. Thanks. Diane K [email protected] On 03/28/11, Merle C Rummel<[email protected]> wrote: > However, I would ask you to look for a William Riley Hendricks and his son > Aaron Ogden Hendricks here... Do you have more information on William Riley Hendricks (date of birth, etc) - the two Hendricks families of the Carolinas moved to Kentucky, and I've done some research on them, including migration on to Illinois and Missouri.. I basically followed the families for three or four generations into Kentucky, and out of it to the several states. Merle C Rummel ------------------------ Search the Archives at [1]http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN ------------------------ Support Our Sponsoring Agency The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) For further information contact Ron McAdams [2]mailto:[email protected] ------------------------ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [3][email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message References 1. http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN 2. mailto:[email protected] 3. mailto:[email protected]

I am glad to hear you are working on this group, as the Hendricks you list are most likely in my line. However, I would ask you to look for a William Riley Hendricks and his son Aaron Ogden Hendricks here... as my direct descendants. Where you get this information mystifies me, so please tell me how I can acquire such proofs. Thanks so much for helping with this very rural area of the state and its Brethren heritage. I am always excited to find additional proofs which I lovingly add to our family library:) Diane Kerchner, daughter of Dolores Gooding, great granddaughter of Laura Hendricks Gooding [email protected] On 03/27/11, Jane Davis<[email protected]> wrote: More than likely we are working with two different Brethren congregations, both named Long Branch. When the 1881-2 divide occurred, some of the congregations in Missouri which divided both retained the name of the original congregation. This may be what we are seeing with the Long Branch congregations since the Long Branch congregation I have worked on is located in Harrison County, not Gentry County. This group organized September 23-24, 1874 at the Long Branch School House, located 4 miles north of Martinsville in Harrison County. Elder S. A. Garber, Leon, Iowa, was present for the organization. Early Brethren near the Iowa border but in Missouri relied heavily on Elders Garber and Kob for help before they had a resident minister nearby. They also were included in early district meetings and Love Feasts with the Iowa brethren if they were closer to Iowa than Kansas. W. B. Sell moved to Harrison County locating 5 miles north of Martinsville March 2, 1874. This group never had a church building, but met in the Long Branch School House. By 1881, Sell writes that the congregation had 16 members, no resident minister, 3 deacons, and were scattered over a large area. Sell moved to Gentry County in 1879 but continued to preach for this group for 4-5 years afterwards. He writes of the 20 miles distance he often walked because he had no other conveyance. Members associated with this congregation were: George Robins and wife, Jacob Fry, Sister Fadley from Indiana, and Sister Showalter. Ruben Ralley was called to deaconship. Other members include Christ Fansler and wife [daughter of Jacob Fry]. The Frys and Fanslers were from Virginia. A W. W. Hendricks and a Brother Pefley are also mentioned in connection to this group. Brethren were often some of the earliest persons to settle in a new territory opened for settlement. As a religious group I found they were often not included in the early county histories due to their rural settlement with few buildings and organizations in towns or communities. Two other German groups in Missouri are often confused with our "Dunker" Brethren. All three groups are similar in that they are ethically German, used the German language in religious services and at home, and had similar names. The United Brethren and the German Baptists have no ties to the German Baptist Brethren (Dunkers) of Schwarzenau heritage, however. Jane Davis. ------------------------ Search the Archives at [1]http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN ------------------------ Support Our Sponsoring Agency The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) For further information contact Ron McAdams [2]mailto:[email protected] ------------------------ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [3][email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message References 1. http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN 2. mailto:[email protected] 3. mailto:[email protected]

Ray--The Benjamin Flory mentioned in the southeastern Nebraska note belongs in the Abraham Flory-Susannah Stoner lineage from Dayton area, Rockingham County Virginia. Abraham's parents were John S. Flory and Catherin Garber of Waynesboro, Franklin Co, PA and Frederick Co, MD. A majority of Benjamin Flory's siblings moved to Iowa, Keokuk Co, S. English. Some siblings stayed in Iowa, some moved further west and were involved in organizing churches in Nebraska, Colorado, and California. I do not know whether there is a tie with your family or not. Sorry I cannot be of more help. Jane Davis. > Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 22:32:23 +0000 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [BRE] Brethren in Southeastern Nebraska > > I came across the Flory's in Augusta County, VA about 1780-1800. Is this the same Flory Brethren Family? I found that Christian Bear, Sr. moved into this area about 1803 and likely came from the Bear's (Baer's, Bare's) of Warwick Twp, Lancaster County, PA. I am interested in this group of Brethren since I am tracking down a Huff who apparently moved from Lancaster Co. PA about the same time and may have been the same John Huff who married Ann Bear in 1810 in Augusta County VA (married by a William King, who was Methodist at the time). I know my Huff's moved to Ohio in 1814 so they were on the move through this period and getting triangulation on the Brethren in this area may help. The town in VA was Churchville near Staunton. Anyone with pointers to a history on these Brethren would be appreciated. > > Ray Hoff > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jane Davis" <[email protected]> > To: "Brethren Genealogy Network" <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 6:05:39 PM > Subject: Re: [BRE] Brethren in Southeastern Nebraska > > > Both Nebraska and Kansas were opened for settlement in 1854. Each had quite different settlement patterns with Kansas plunged into border warfare soon afterwards and then fast on the heels of this, the Civil War of 1861-1865. Many Brethren living in Missouri were forced to leave moving either to their earlier homes or coming to Kansas and settling in the Lawrence, Ozawkie, and Wolf Creek areas where Brethren were already living. > > The earliest Brethren in Nebraska that I have information about were located west of what would become Omaha (known as the Bell Creek/Octavia congregation ca. 1868) and in the Falls City area (also about 1868). The majority of these groups moved westward from Iowa and Illinois. The Pawnee City group was mainly from the English River settlement in Iowa. This included Elder Benjamin Flory and related family members of the Fry and Flory families. Florys were originally from Virginia and the Frys from Naperville, Illinois area. Many of this group moved on to western Nebraska where they were part of the organization of the Enders, Nebraska congregation. The Pawnee County group organized as the Turkey Creek congregation (1870). It was scattered over the general area around Pawnee City and Cincinnati. This group did divide in the 1881-2 split, as did the Falls City and the Beatrice groups. Jane Davis. > > > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > Support Our Sponsoring Agency > The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) > For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:[email protected] > ------------------------ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > Support Our Sponsoring Agency > The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) > For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:[email protected] > ------------------------ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I believe this Eikenberry was spelled with only the I at the beginning of the name. I would need to check that out to be certain. Jane. The use of "Ei" and "I" was indiscriminately used by different members of the family - at least out here. Most times it was "Ei". - but those did not write, who used "their mark" - had others spell it for them - and it was spelled the way it sounded -."I" Merle

Yes, there were many Brethren families living in Botetourt County prior to 1800. Forty-two heads of German Baptist Brethren families signed a petition, 13 December 1799, seeking exemption from fines for not attending muster. Some lived near Fincastle although most lived closer to Roanoke and Salem. The families were intermarried and quite familiar with one another. Many migrated to Botetourt around 1790 from Eastern Pennsylvania. As far as I know, they did not have an organized church name. Dwayne Wrightsman -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of GEORGE NEWMAN Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:59 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [BRE] (no subject) Were there any Church of the Brethren churches in the area of Fincastle area of Botetourt Co Virginia before 1800. George and Sherry IN GOD WE TRUST ------------------------ Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN ------------------------ Support Our Sponsoring Agency The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:[email protected] ------------------------ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I came across the Flory's in Augusta County, VA about 1780-1800. Is this the same Flory Brethren Family? I found that Christian Bear, Sr. moved into this area about 1803 and likely came from the Bear's (Baer's, Bare's) of Warwick Twp, Lancaster County, PA. I am interested in this group of Brethren since I am tracking down a Huff who apparently moved from Lancaster Co. PA about the same time and may have been the same John Huff who married Ann Bear in 1810 in Augusta County VA (married by a William King, who was Methodist at the time). I know my Huff's moved to Ohio in 1814 so they were on the move through this period and getting triangulation on the Brethren in this area may help. The town in VA was Churchville near Staunton. Anyone with pointers to a history on these Brethren would be appreciated. Ray Hoff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane Davis" <[email protected]> To: "Brethren Genealogy Network" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 6:05:39 PM Subject: Re: [BRE] Brethren in Southeastern Nebraska Both Nebraska and Kansas were opened for settlement in 1854. Each had quite different settlement patterns with Kansas plunged into border warfare soon afterwards and then fast on the heels of this, the Civil War of 1861-1865. Many Brethren living in Missouri were forced to leave moving either to their earlier homes or coming to Kansas and settling in the Lawrence, Ozawkie, and Wolf Creek areas where Brethren were already living. The earliest Brethren in Nebraska that I have information about were located west of what would become Omaha (known as the Bell Creek/Octavia congregation ca. 1868) and in the Falls City area (also about 1868). The majority of these groups moved westward from Iowa and Illinois. The Pawnee City group was mainly from the English River settlement in Iowa. This included Elder Benjamin Flory and related family members of the Fry and Flory families. Florys were originally from Virginia and the Frys from Naperville, Illinois area. Many of this group moved on to western Nebraska where they were part of the organization of the Enders, Nebraska congregation. The Pawnee County group organized as the Turkey Creek congregation (1870). It was scattered over the general area around Pawnee City and Cincinnati. This group did divide in the 1881-2 split, as did the Falls City and the Beatrice groups. Jane Davis. ------------------------ Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN ------------------------ Support Our Sponsoring Agency The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:[email protected] ------------------------ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Merle--Thanks for this information. I did not have this Eikenberry info. I do have some other Eikenberry info on the ones who were with the Bell Creek group, moved to Quinter, KS and then returned to Nebraska but to a different congregation. I believe this Eikenberry was spelled with only the I at the beginning of the name. I would need to check that out to be certain. Jane. > Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 21:08:20 -0400 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [BRE] Brethren in Southeastern Nebraska > > Samuel Eikenberry (1803-1863) (wife: Matha Crawford (b. 1808- ) - both > from the Four Mile Church - Union Co IN - went to Danville Iowa in > 1837, then on to Plattsmouth Nebraska (I don't have a date - he was a > 49er in the California Gold Rush, a member of the First Nebraska > Territorial Assembly and on the Nebraska Constitutional Convention. > > Samuel was the son of Peter Eikenberry Jr and Elizabeth Landis (Peter Jr > owned land on the Ohio state line [on the Indian Road] - but lived on > Twin Creek, east in Preble Co OH - going SE toward Gratis OH) . I > suspect that Samuel lived on Peter Jrs land on the state line - how he > met Martha. > > Martha was the daughter of William Crawford and Isabella McClure (a > sister of the wife of Tobias Miller - and raised by him - Lower Four > Mile - SW of College Corner OH) (a picture of Tobias Miller's house is > in the 200th Anniversary Presentation - at > <www.cob-net.org/docs/brethrenlife.htm>) her mother was a half sister > of Potter John Miller's wife - and William Crawford was his best friend.) > > Merle C Rummel > > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > Support Our Sponsoring Agency > The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) > For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:[email protected] > ------------------------ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Samuel Eikenberry (1803-1863) (wife: Matha Crawford (b. 1808- ) - both from the Four Mile Church - Union Co IN - went to Danville Iowa in 1837, then on to Plattsmouth Nebraska (I don't have a date - he was a 49er in the California Gold Rush, a member of the First Nebraska Territorial Assembly and on the Nebraska Constitutional Convention. Samuel was the son of Peter Eikenberry Jr and Elizabeth Landis (Peter Jr owned land on the Ohio state line [on the Indian Road] - but lived on Twin Creek, east in Preble Co OH - going SE toward Gratis OH) . I suspect that Samuel lived on Peter Jrs land on the state line - how he met Martha. Martha was the daughter of William Crawford and Isabella McClure (a sister of the wife of Tobias Miller - and raised by him - Lower Four Mile - SW of College Corner OH) (a picture of Tobias Miller's house is in the 200th Anniversary Presentation - at <www.cob-net.org/docs/brethrenlife.htm>) her mother was a half sister of Potter John Miller's wife - and William Crawford was his best friend.) Merle C Rummel

Were there any Church of the Brethren churches in the area of Fincastle area of Botetourt Co Virginia before 1800. George and Sherry IN GOD WE TRUST

Jane, Is the Sell mentioned in the writing a descendent of the Sell family from Bedford Co, PA? Lynn Sewell -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jane Davis Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 4:33 PM To: Brethren Genealogy Network Subject: Re: [BRE] Long Branch congregation, Missouri More than likely we are working with two different Brethren congregations, both named Long Branch. When the 1881-2 divide occurred, some of the congregations in Missouri which divided both retained the name of the original congregation. This may be what we are seeing with the Long Branch congregations since the Long Branch congregation I have worked on is located in Harrison County, not Gentry County. This group organized September 23-24, 1874 at the Long Branch School House, located 4 miles north of Martinsville in Harrison County. Elder S. A. Garber, Leon, Iowa, was present for the organization. Early Brethren near the Iowa border but in Missouri relied heavily on Elders Garber and Kob for help before they had a resident minister nearby. They also were included in early district meetings and Love Feasts with the Iowa brethren if they were closer to Iowa than Kansas. W. B. Sell moved to Harrison County locating 5 miles north of Martinsville March 2, 1874. This group never had a church building, but met in the Long Branch School House. By 1881, Sell writes that the congregation had 16 members, no resident minister, 3 deacons, and were scattered over a large area. Sell moved to Gentry County in 1879 but continued to preach for this group for 4-5 years afterwards. He writes of the 20 miles distance he often walked because he had no other conveyance. Members associated with this congregation were: George Robins and wife, Jacob Fry, Sister Fadley from Indiana, and Sister Showalter. Ruben Ralley was called to deaconship. Other members include Christ Fansler and wife [daughter of Jacob Fry]. The Frys and Fanslers were from Virginia. A W. W. Hendricks and a Brother Pefley are also mentioned in connection to this group. Brethren were often some of the earliest persons to settle in a new territory opened for settlement. As a religious group I found they were often not included in the early county histories due to their rural settlement with few buildings and organizations in towns or communities. Two other German groups in Missouri are often confused with our "Dunker" Brethren. All three groups are similar in that they are ethically German, used the German language in religious services and at home, and had similar names. The United Brethren and the German Baptists have no ties to the German Baptist Brethren (Dunkers) of Schwarzenau heritage, however. Jane Davis. ------------------------ Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN ------------------------ Support Our Sponsoring Agency The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:[email protected] ------------------------ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Lynn--This W. B. Sell is William Burger Sell, born in Huntingdon County, PA in 1840, died 1928 in Fredonia, Kansas. He was the son of Jacob B. Sell and Elizabeth Burger of Adams County, PA. He was married to first: Catherine Knoll, second: Susanna Spohn. He had eight children. I am not sure whether this would tie him to the Bedford County PA Sells, or not. Jane. > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 16:55:11 -0500 > Subject: Re: [BRE] Long Branch congregation, Missouri > > Jane, Is the Sell mentioned in the writing a descendent of the Sell family > from Bedford Co, PA? Lynn Sewell > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Jane Davis > Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 4:33 PM > To: Brethren Genealogy Network > Subject: Re: [BRE] Long Branch congregation, Missouri > > > More than likely we are working with two different Brethren congregations, > both named Long Branch. When the 1881-2 divide occurred, some of the > congregations in Missouri which divided both retained the name of the > original congregation. This may be what we are seeing with the Long Branch > congregations since the Long Branch congregation I have worked on is located > in Harrison County, not Gentry County. This group organized September > 23-24, 1874 at the Long Branch School House, located 4 miles north of > Martinsville in Harrison County. Elder S. A. Garber, Leon, Iowa, was > present for the organization. Early Brethren near the Iowa border but in > Missouri relied heavily on Elders Garber and Kob for help before they had a > resident minister nearby. They also were included in early district > meetings and Love Feasts with the Iowa brethren if they were closer to Iowa > than Kansas. > > W. B. Sell moved to Harrison County locating 5 miles north of Martinsville > March 2, 1874. This group never had a church building, but met in the Long > Branch School House. By 1881, Sell writes that the congregation had 16 > members, no resident minister, 3 deacons, and were scattered over a large > area. Sell moved to Gentry County in 1879 but continued to preach for this > group for 4-5 years afterwards. He writes of the 20 miles distance he often > walked because he had no other conveyance. > > Members associated with this congregation were: George Robins and wife, > Jacob Fry, Sister Fadley from Indiana, and Sister Showalter. Ruben Ralley > was called to deaconship. Other members include Christ Fansler and wife > [daughter of Jacob Fry]. The Frys and Fanslers were from Virginia. A W. W. > Hendricks and a Brother Pefley are also mentioned in connection to this > group. > > Brethren were often some of the earliest persons to settle in a new > territory opened for settlement. As a religious group I found they were > often not included in the early county histories due to their rural > settlement with few buildings and organizations in towns or communities. > Two other German groups in Missouri are often confused with our "Dunker" > Brethren. All three groups are similar in that they are ethically German, > used the German language in religious services and at home, and had similar > names. The United Brethren and the German Baptists have no ties to the > German Baptist Brethren (Dunkers) of Schwarzenau heritage, however. Jane > Davis. > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > Support Our Sponsoring Agency > The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) > For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:[email protected] > ------------------------ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > Support Our Sponsoring Agency > The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) > For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:[email protected] > ------------------------ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Both Nebraska and Kansas were opened for settlement in 1854. Each had quite different settlement patterns with Kansas plunged into border warfare soon afterwards and then fast on the heels of this, the Civil War of 1861-1865. Many Brethren living in Missouri were forced to leave moving either to their earlier homes or coming to Kansas and settling in the Lawrence, Ozawkie, and Wolf Creek areas where Brethren were already living. The earliest Brethren in Nebraska that I have information about were located west of what would become Omaha (known as the Bell Creek/Octavia congregation ca. 1868) and in the Falls City area (also about 1868). The majority of these groups moved westward from Iowa and Illinois. The Pawnee City group was mainly from the English River settlement in Iowa. This included Elder Benjamin Flory and related family members of the Fry and Flory families. Florys were originally from Virginia and the Frys from Naperville, Illinois area. Many of this group moved on to western Nebraska where they were part of the organization of the Enders, Nebraska congregation. The Pawnee County group organized as the Turkey Creek congregation (1870). It was scattered over the general area around Pawnee City and Cincinnati. This group did divide in the 1881-2 split, as did the Falls City and the Beatrice groups. Jane Davis.

More than likely we are working with two different Brethren congregations, both named Long Branch. When the 1881-2 divide occurred, some of the congregations in Missouri which divided both retained the name of the original congregation. This may be what we are seeing with the Long Branch congregations since the Long Branch congregation I have worked on is located in Harrison County, not Gentry County. This group organized September 23-24, 1874 at the Long Branch School House, located 4 miles north of Martinsville in Harrison County. Elder S. A. Garber, Leon, Iowa, was present for the organization. Early Brethren near the Iowa border but in Missouri relied heavily on Elders Garber and Kob for help before they had a resident minister nearby. They also were included in early district meetings and Love Feasts with the Iowa brethren if they were closer to Iowa than Kansas. W. B. Sell moved to Harrison County locating 5 miles north of Martinsville March 2, 1874. This group never had a church building, but met in the Long Branch School House. By 1881, Sell writes that the congregation had 16 members, no resident minister, 3 deacons, and were scattered over a large area. Sell moved to Gentry County in 1879 but continued to preach for this group for 4-5 years afterwards. He writes of the 20 miles distance he often walked because he had no other conveyance. Members associated with this congregation were: George Robins and wife, Jacob Fry, Sister Fadley from Indiana, and Sister Showalter. Ruben Ralley was called to deaconship. Other members include Christ Fansler and wife [daughter of Jacob Fry]. The Frys and Fanslers were from Virginia. A W. W. Hendricks and a Brother Pefley are also mentioned in connection to this group. Brethren were often some of the earliest persons to settle in a new territory opened for settlement. As a religious group I found they were often not included in the early county histories due to their rural settlement with few buildings and organizations in towns or communities. Two other German groups in Missouri are often confused with our "Dunker" Brethren. All three groups are similar in that they are ethically German, used the German language in religious services and at home, and had similar names. The United Brethren and the German Baptists have no ties to the German Baptist Brethren (Dunkers) of Schwarzenau heritage, however. Jane Davis.

On 3/24/2011 4:50 PM, Dwayne Wrightsman wrote: > As a follow-up to my earlier message below, I checked the 1820 census for > Kentucky and found 17 households with the surname Rhoads. There were 10 > households in Muhlenberg County, 6 households (Jacob and his sons) in > GRAYSON COUNTY, and 1 household in Caldwell County.. The Jacob Vanmeter > household was still in Hardin County, and the Christopher Jackson household > in Ohio County. I also noted from Merle's list that Jacob Rhoads of Grayson > County died in Macoupin County, Illinois, in circa 1835. Checking my > Macoupin County history books, I found that Jacob Rhoads was the first > settler to buy land, 6 July 1830, in Chesterfield Township, Macoupin County. > Jesse Rhoads was second, 8 Sept. 1830. "In 1831, John, Henry, Samuel, > Jesse, Jacob, and Josiah Rhodes, six brothers, all having families, settled > in the southwest portion known as Rhoads' Point, and the present site of > Medora." All of these brothers except Josiah were listed in the 1820 census > for Grayson County, KY. In Macoupin County, "Jacob and John Rhoads, > Baptists, preached......at Rhoads' Point." "Dr. Henry Rhoads was the first > physician in the township. He settled at Rhoads' Point in 1831, as above > stated." > > I have no idea if these Rhoads families were Brethren in Grayson County, KY, > before moving to Illinois, circa 1830, but, if they were, their exodus from > Kentucky would have been at the very same time that so many known Brethren > from Drakes Creek in Simpson County and from Long Creek in Muhlenberg County > moved out of KY and settled in Sangamon, Morgan, and Macoupin Counties in > Illinois. 1830 pretty much marked the Far-Western Brethren exodus from > Kentucky led by Elders Joseph Roland, John Dick, and Isham Gibson. > > I suspect that the Rhoads families of Grayson County might have been a part > of the Grayson County, KY, Brethren church of 1814 organized by Joseph > Roland. But if they were, they were not Brethren after they arrived in > Illinois. Jacob Rhoads was moderator and Henry Rhoads was clerk of the > five-member Baptist Church located in Medora, organized by them 21 April > 1832. I checked some of my stored information (my external hard drive is down - where most was stored) - Jacob Van Meter (called "Valley Jake") (wife Elizabeth Rhoads - 14 children) joined the General Baptist Church at age 11 and was "very religious". He is credited with establishing that church in the Severns Valley in Kentucky (Elizabethtown - Hardin Co). He inherited his father's homestead there, before moving on to "the forks of Otter Creek", which seems to be more toward the Grayson Co area. While he was born in Virginia, his father moved to Washington Co PA, then came with the 1779 flotilla (27 flatboats) down the Ohio River to Bear Grass Landing on the Muddy Creek (if this is the same Muddy Creek - it was just upstream from the Falls at Louisville - just east of I-65). The families then moved down to the Elizabethtown area (what, 40 miles on I-65 - not quite that fast walking - I usually go to Elizabethtown to eat dinner - driving down to Nashville - its a nice big valley.). There is a suggestion that the Henry Rhoads party stopped first at Severns Valley (1784) - leaving the families there over winter, before going on to Muhlenberg Co to get their property ready - and that land was the the Calhoun property - which they lost to the Dorseys of Maryland, after which they moved on south on Pond River. I would suspect these Grayson Co families tended originally toward the General Baptist Church. Maybe that's why Joseph Rolland went up in 1814 to establish a Brethren Church - some there wanted other than General Baptist But - with no more information - an argument could be made that "Valley Jake" originally join the Baptist Brethren, in Washington Co PA (before 1779 was awful early for the General Baptist Church to have been in Washington Co PA - and the Baptist Brethren had long been there), and that it was in the 1820s that the Baptist Brethren Church there in Grayson Co KY went General Baptist. Merle C Rummel

Indeed, this is interesting information. Here is more information I have found. I have found three Stevicks listed for the Mt. Zion West cemetery (Cooper Township) in Gentry County. Could these be your family members? David Stevick, 9-5-1826/5-18-1909; Frankie E. Stevick 4-1-1887/5-22-1894; and Susan Stevick 1-18-1845/7-25-1912. I also have an obituary that is supposed to be from the Gospel Messenger (Brethren periodical) mor March 19, 1895, p. 191, for a Stuard. It reads: "In the Darlington congregation, Gentry Co., MO, Feb. 20, 1895, sister Maria Stuard, aged 57 years, 9 months and 20 days. Sister Stuard was b orn in Ohio, May 2, 1838. She joined the United Brethren church when quite young. In the year 1872 she united with the German Baptist or Brethren church, and lived a consistent life until death. She was b aptized by the writer in Minnesota. Wm. C. Hipes." Her name does not appear on the master list for the cemeteries of Gentry and Worth Counties, MO. Wm. C. Hipes was a Church of the Brethren minister who served churches in Plattsburg and Kidder, Missouri; Greene, Iowa; and Root River, Minnesota. He lived from 1835 to 1901according to the Brethren Encyclopedia. There are several Oylers who were ministers, again according to the BE. David Oyler (1945-____), Howard M. Oyler (1916/____), James Lloyd Oyler (1860/1938), John O. Oyler (1885/1958), and Joseph L. (1910/_____). All were Old German Baptist Brethren ministers. The most likely one to have married your great grandparents was James Lloyd Oyler who served the Eight Mile, Fairview, and Cedar Creek, Kansas churches. Some Brethren who came west did go without an organized church for a number of years. There are several instances of this when Brethren moved into a newly opened territory and had not encouraged an elder or minister to come with them. The earliest Brethren came to Missouri in 1795, before Lewis and Clark's 1804 trip up the Missouri River. George Wolf, the elder was the first Brethren minister for this group. He did not arrive until after 1800. An elder Hostetter also arrived in the St. Charles MO area around 1800 and is recorded as preaching in German to an English-speaking audience. The Cape Girardeau/White Water group did not organize until 1812 when John Hendricks came up from Kentucky at the encouragement of George Wolf, the younger who lived across the Mississippi in Illinois. Jane Davis.

Interesting, information., Our great grandparents were married by a Bro. Oyler, of the Long Branch, congregation.  I don't know as when the church there was organized, but know by the 1880's there was a building that continued to stand until the last twenty to thirty years.  As I said, it was a Baptist church at the end, but it would seem the entire Long Branch Community came from Roanoke.  The cemetery is full of Brethren names.   Our great great grandfather Harris was suppose to have been a minister. Now, these people were already in Gentry County before the Civil War according to the census.  They were some of Gentry County's earliest residents.  Surely they didn't go without a church for thirty years.   I was hoping somewhere some specific information could be found about that particular church.   Whoever knew is either gone, or not telling.   I know one reason the Brethren seem to disappear by the 20's is they all moved away.  I'm thinking the original Brethren moved and the Baptists took up the church house and graveyard.  We had family move to KS and NE.  Then some came on to SOuth Dakota.  By the 20's there was a large group of these people in Gregory County, SD  with the names:  Harris, Carter, Gish, Hartman, Smith & Stevick.  THe latter name was a United Brethren family that had freely intermarried with the other said families.   I have, however, been unable to locate where there was a United Brethren church in that area.  Our great great grandfather Stevick's obituary states he was a SUnday School Superintendent in the United Brethren Church for over 50 years.  He's buried there a few miles from Long Branch in the Mt. Zion burrying ground next to the Mt. Zion church yet his name does not appear on the Mt. Zion registry nor was Mt. Zion ever a United Brethren church. Does anyone have information about the Brethren churches of Pawnee City, Table Rock, and Humboldt Nebraska areas?   The people there should have ties with Long Branch in Missouri. -----Original Message----- From: "Jane Davis" <[email protected]> Sent 3/26/2011 11:11:42 PM To: "Brethren Genealogy Network" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [BRE] [BRE} Brethren, Gentry County, MissouriAmong other things, I work with the history of the Brethren in Missouri from 1795 to present. I was glad to see some interest in the Brethren in Gentry County. Interest in the Brethren in northern Missouri dates to the 1920's when an early history was begun on the Missouri Brethren. Never finished, E. R. Vanderau of Plattsburg, MO (Clinton County) gathered all he could locate for a thesis in 1945 on the Brethren in the Northern District of Missouri. The Gentry congregation takes up very little space in this thesis. Gentry Congregation: Much of the material on this group has been written by Elder W. B. Sell who kept a notebook of happenings within the churches over which he was elder; Gentry was one of these congregations. It was organized in late 1878 or 1879 with 8 charter members. Among those listed as members include W. B. Sell and wife, S. S. Garman and wife, Serenius Garman and wife, James Miller and wife, Epaphirus Garman and wife, and a Brother Whitestine and wife. Salathiel Garman was called to deaconship. Congregational name was Gentry after the county in which it was located. By 1881/2 the congregation had grown to 23 members with no church building. It is doubtful it ever had a building as it disappears from the records by late 1890's. W. B. Sell moved to Ettieville, located 7 miles southwest of Albany in 1879 and held the Love Feast at his home Oct 4-5. 1879. He was also present when the congregation was organized along with Daniel Glick of the Whitesville congregation. A Green Ridge is also mentioned but I am not sure this was a known community. In caring for this congregation and the Long Branch congregation earlier, Sell moved from Martinsville, Harrison County to Ettieville, Gentry County. He also had oversight of the Honey Creek and White Cloud congregations (Nodaway County) and the Whitesville congregation (Andrew County). Earlier, he had been involved with the Hamilton congregation in Caldwell and Daviess Counties, MO. He eventually moved to southeastern Kansas. Jane Davis. ------------------------ Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN ------------------------ Support Our Sponsoring Agency The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:[email protected] ------------------------ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

One of the descendants of Alexander Mack was Catherine Ziegler who was the daughter of, supposedly, Jacob Ziegler and Sarah Margretta Mack. Who did Catherine Ziegler marry? And I don't want to hear "Mr. Dedaker" as I have incontrovertible proof that that is, to put it nicely, hogwash! Unless of course one of our elders and historians at the turn of 20th Century was wet behind the ears! Also, Dedaker is not a surname, but Zedaker is. I found another lost piece of history not included in the BE, hooray! Wayne Webb