Merle, Suzy brought up a point that I'm well aware of - It was very common for people to migrate between the 2 counties. And that is true no matter where your area of search is located. Just as it was common for people to migrate between Butler, OH and Franklin or Union, IN. And that brings me to your msg [unless you're still mowing grass :-) You state that John/Phoebe had a son William born 1793. Is that proven? But let's say it's true. Where does his birth year come from? If 1793 can't be proven, my Wm is proven born 1796 and in KY. Since John/Phoebe are proven to marry in FranklinCo, VA, is it possible they moved out and into KY before 1796 and then moving on to IN?? You also state that all of Potter John's children [minus Abe] moved to ParkeCo from 1818 and on. Tobias Miller is listed in the ParkeCo History as follows: "Judge .Strange and Tobias Miller settled in Raccoon valley, in 1820, as also George and Alexander Kirkpatrick." But here's my problem...... 1807 IN Terr census 6 Miller families with 1 John Miller 1813 Franklin Tax List John Sr John Jr [not necessarily father and son] Daniel Tobias 1820 FranklinCo census 16 Miller families ....11 in BATH Twp with 3 John Millers ....3 in Blooming Grove ....1 in Brookville, 1 John Miller ....1 in Union 1830 FranklinCo census 11 Miller families with 4 John Millers 1830 UnionCo census [formed from northern Franklin taking part of BATH Twp] 22 Miller families with 2 John Millers [one is Col. John] 1830 ParkeCo census 9 Miller families with 3 John Millers 1830 FountainCo census 11 Miller families with 4 John Millers Note that in 1830 we have THIRTEEN John Millers among these 4 counties. Soooo.....with all these Miller families, how can it be proven that all but one of Potter John's sons went to ParkeCo? How are all the other sons of these other Miller fams proven NOT to have gone to Parke? Why couldn't John's sons have gone to Fountain, Vermillion, Montgomery or Putnam? Are there land grants plotted out or deeds between father and son or wills that name children that have been found for any of these early Millers that helps to sort them out? Nel HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm ... Digging up the Dead ... .. Irritating the Living .. ... It's what I do best! ... On 5/27/2011 3:31 PM, Merle Rummel wrote: > On William Miller > > > > Then I came across Merle's series of posts on the Kentucky churches and > realized I might have just found my first KY to IN connection. It seems > even more likely that my William belonged to one of the Baptist churches > who were booted out at the 1822 Annual Meeting with some of those > families moving north into southern IN followed by William marrying in > 1823. > > Here would be another clue. William seemed to have used the naming > pattern of the times with his first 5 children named John, Abram, Nancy, > Samuel and Mary. 1) John being Wm's father, 2) Abram being Martha's > father, 3) Nancy being Martha's mother OR the name of BOTH their > mothers, 5) Mary being Wm's mother. It is proven that 2 and 3 or > correct, implying that Wm's father would be John and his mother Mary > UNLESS she was also a Nancy. > > > I've been trying to mow 200 acres of grass - in between the rains - and > just now got to reading your message > > > Potter John Miller (son of Elder Jacob Miller - wife Phoebe McClure) had > an eldest son: William (b 1793) I have no other information on > William > > > BUT - all the rest of Potter John's children (except the youngest - > Abraham) went to Park Co IN - 1818 and soon after - Potter John and > Phoebe went in 1823, but returned about 1848 to Union Co IN. (Children > were: Jacob; Tobias; Mary; John; Daniel; James; Barbara - and spouses) > > > There were others from the Four Mile who went that way - the Raccoon > Creek Church was formed among all of these - in northwester Putnam Co - > which I do not know how close that would be to the Miller children. > > > Merle > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.449 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3663 - Release Date: 05/27/11 06:34:00 >

and inviting all others to join the party. In 1998 Merle wrote: Those of you that know (or suspect) your family went through Kentucky in this time, please contact me. I'll be glad to help you with families I do know. Merle C Rummel, Church Historian ------------------------- So here's my story. The Timberman family Abraham Timberman [bn 1782 PA] descended from Johann Jacob Zimmerman [bn 1642] of Wurttemberg, Germany, a Lutheran theologian and university professor. Abraham and several brothers left PA and [for reasons unknown] moved to BlountCo, TN, where he married Nancy Hawkins [bn c1781 NC] in 1801. c1811 this family removed to FranklinCo, IN, where in Oct 1823 his daughter, Martha, married William MILLER. Abe and son-in-law William Miller then removed to ParkeCo, IN. The following is lengthy but mentions many names that may be familiar to some of you. "Historical Sketch of Parke Co (IN)": Abraham TIMBERMAN, William and Edward BROCKWAY, Jacob BOWSHER, Samuel ARNOT, Lawson HUFFMAN and David SHIRK were the first settlers of Liberty township - 1822 to 1825. "The Early History of Liberty Township, Parke Co, In", by Samuel C Madden: "The first settlers must have been early in the twenties and I have long wished I could know who the very first comers to the township were. But I have sought in vain. I subscribed for the large map of the Co that was published several years ago with the assurance that it would give the early reminiscences of the township but it failed to materialize; in fact, I believe there were less than two lines across the map in the description of the township. But from the very best information that I can get I think it must have been Abram TIMBERMAN who settled about one mile southeast of Lodi. He was a member of the regular PREDESTINARIAN BAPTIST denomination and here gathered around him quite a large church for so early a day, say early in the twenties. They were composed of the CARMANS, MILLERS, THOMPSONS, SHIRKS in the immediate neighborhood and later on they were joined by others from adjoining neighborhoods. James MARKS, the SWAIMS, STANTONS, and others which constituted quite a large church. They worshipped for a number of years in Mr Timberman's dwelling house nearby where the Miller graveyard now is. After several years they built a church house on range nine about one mile south of the Parke and Fountain Co line, known as the Shirk meeting house. Rev David Shirk was elder or pastor for several years. After his death which was about 1860, '61 or '62 the church declined and has been laid down ever since the close of the war." William Miller is my brick wall. And while I am an experienced researcher, I have spent only the last 2 days following this particular angle. You will likely find me ignorant about much of what you've known for years. The first appearance of Wm was his marriage rec to Martha in 1823. While I know Abe Timberman had family in ButlerCo, OH and while I knew there were many Millers in both Butler and Franklin, because my William was born [bible record] 1796 in KY [census], I couldn't find a way to connect any of the Franklin Millers to William. And in all the Miller history I've read from many online sites, no one seems to have claimed my Wiliam. I have also found much contradictory information on the same families with little, if any, sourcing. So I admit I have some ideas based on limited research about some connections but also confused about others. A tiny but possibly relevant clue was a conversation with my cousin several years ago that her mother had mentioned that she had heard from family member[s] our William Miller "knew" Daniel Boone. I could come to no conclusion in attempting to confirm this "maybe" clue. Then I came across Merle's series of posts on the Kentucky churches and realized I might have just found my first KY to IN connection. It seems even more likely that my William belonged to one of the Baptist churches who were booted out at the 1822 Annual Meeting with some of those families moving north into southern IN followed by William marrying in 1823. Here would be another clue. William seemed to have used the naming pattern of the times with his first 5 children named John, Abram, Nancy, Samuel and Mary. 1) John being Wm's father, 2) Abram being Martha's father, 3) Nancy being Martha's mother OR the name of BOTH their mothers, 5) Mary being Wm's mother. It is proven that 2 and 3 or correct, implying that Wm's father would be John and his mother Mary UNLESS she was also a Nancy. This brings me to the one John I've found in Franklin/Union Co, IN, who I believe could be Wm's parents - the man called COL. JOHN MILLER. What I've seen so far is that he is assumed to be a cousin of Potter John Miller. No apparent proof that this is a correct assumption. His family does not seem to be clearly defined or complete. Several sites have him married to Nancy Capper with a specific 1800 date in FranklinCo, VA. I have been unable to confirm this date [or her maiden name] using several dbases. The children who appear to be proven are Martin, John Jr, Elizabeth and Benjamin. But in reviewing the Franklin/Union online recs and the censi, the 1820 census shows him to have 2 older daughters and a son bn 1794-1804. This is who I believe is my William bn 1796, a son of Col. John and Nancy LNU Miller. I am very interested in hearing any and all comments that could help to prove or disprove any part of my theory. Nel Hatcher -- HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm ... Digging up the Dead ... .. Irritating the Living .. ... It's what I do best! ...

Elder Martin Gaby was the first pastor of the Oley Church (3rd Brethren Church in America), Berks Co PA. Two of his youngest children came here to Indiana Territory in the early days. Salome Gaby, wife of Daniel Fiant, came out in 1802, right after they were married, and settled at "Fiants Ford", the crossing of the Whitewater River (Delaware Indian Road), near now Yankeetown IN.. She was followed by her younger brother, John Gaby (wife: Hannah), who settled south of Salome, just west of Brownsville IN, on the road to John Conner's Trading Post (now Connersville IN). John Gaby had a daughter, Susannah, born in Maryland in 1802 (probably in the Beaver Dam area, where a sister lived - Esther, wife of John Pfoutz). We first have record of the John and Hannah family here in the Four Mile area, about 1814. In 1834 both families moved a few miles west, into Fayette Co IN, living just north of Springerville IN (which is on the same old road). John died before 1840, Hannah lived with Susannah and died before 1850. Susannah married Richard Strong, a medical doctor, in 1825. Richard died in 1848, Susannah died in 1883. The Strong Cemetery, on their farm, has headstones for Susannah and Richard, and a daughter, Henrietta. There are 8 more field stones as markers. (I really suspect that John and Hannah Gaby are buried here.) Daniel and Salome Gaby Fiant are buried on their farm, about a half mile west of the Strong House. Up until about 50 years ago, there were odd circumstances happening in the old Strong House. Footsteps would be heard climbing the steep steps to an upstairs bedroom, then a rocking chair, always left in the room, began to slowly rock. Lilac Perfume would often be smelled. One day , with the footsteps, a woman was seen entering the room, going toward the rocking chair. She wore a high collared blouse with a long flowing skirt, her hair was pulled up on top of her head. the person seeing the woman (as I remember, the mother of the lady telling me, a descendant), calmly said: "Susannah, you need to go!" - the woman disappeared, and none of the traces of her have been heard or seen since. As a preacher, and a scientist, this is hard for me to accept, but I do respect the person telling me of this. I think she told me the truth. These were Brethren Families. The New Bethel Brethren Church was on the corner of the Fiant farm. My wife's grandfather and gr grandfather went over there monthly to hold services. Her gr grandfather's second wife came from there, and is buried in the Cemetery at Springerville. Merle C Rummel

Ask Eric to send York Co. attachment to me, too. [email protected] In a message dated 5/21/2011 2:00:28 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Eric was kind to send me the attachment of the York Co. map. Thanks, Eric! Kim D. Garrison Weyers Cave, VA ------------------------ Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN ------------------------ Support Our Sponsoring Agency The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:[email protected] ------------------------ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'd like it in a PDF file, too. If that's possible. Carol at [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) In a message dated 5/21/2011 7:31:46 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: I tried opening it up with IE9, but I have satellite internet connection. Is someone willing to save it as a PDF and email it to me (unless it's too large to send as an attachment)? Thank you. Kim D. Garrison Weyers Cave, VA > Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 04:50:03 -0400 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [BRE] Vintage Maps > > York map does open with IE8 (as PDF with enlargement in the PDF) and Google > Chrome (as image only). But these are big maps-- about the size of 6 to 8 > pieces of typing paper - 3 to 4 "sheets" across. If on dial up or slow > connection, the image may never load. > > On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 12:38 AM, Kim D. Garrison <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > I cannot get the York County map to appear. Is anyone else having the same > > trouble? > > > > Kim D. Garrison > > Weyers Cave, VA > > > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > Support Our Sponsoring Agency > The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) > For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:[email protected] > ------------------------ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------ Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN ------------------------ Support Our Sponsoring Agency The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:[email protected] ------------------------ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I would greatly appreciate PDF copies of the maps as well   Bob @ [email protected] --- On Sat, 5/21/11, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: From: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [BRE] Vintage Maps To: [email protected] Date: Saturday, May 21, 2011, 2:30 PM Ask Eric to send York Co. attachment to me, too. [email protected] In a message dated 5/21/2011 2:00:28 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  [email protected] writes: Eric  was kind to send me the attachment of the York Co. map.  Thanks,  Eric! Kim D. Garrison Weyers Cave, VA      ------------------------ Search  the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN ------------------------ Support Our  Sponsoring Agency The Fellowship  Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) For further information contact Ron McAdams  mailto:[email protected] ------------------------ ------------------------------- To  unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to  [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes  in the subject and the body of the  message                                ------------------------ Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN                                ------------------------                         Support Our Sponsoring Agency             The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:[email protected]                                ------------------------ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Eric was kind to send me the attachment of the York Co. map. Thanks, Eric! Kim D. Garrison Weyers Cave, VA

I tried opening it up with IE9, but I have satellite internet connection. Is someone willing to save it as a PDF and email it to me (unless it's too large to send as an attachment)? Thank you. Kim D. Garrison Weyers Cave, VA > Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 04:50:03 -0400 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [BRE] Vintage Maps > > York map does open with IE8 (as PDF with enlargement in the PDF) and Google > Chrome (as image only). But these are big maps-- about the size of 6 to 8 > pieces of typing paper - 3 to 4 "sheets" across. If on dial up or slow > connection, the image may never load. > > On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 12:38 AM, Kim D. Garrison <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > I cannot get the York County map to appear. Is anyone else having the same > > trouble? > > > > Kim D. Garrison > > Weyers Cave, VA > > > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > Support Our Sponsoring Agency > The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) > For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:[email protected] > ------------------------ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

York map does open with IE8 (as PDF with enlargement in the PDF) and Google Chrome (as image only). But these are big maps-- about the size of 6 to 8 pieces of typing paper - 3 to 4 "sheets" across. If on dial up or slow connection, the image may never load. On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 12:38 AM, Kim D. Garrison <[email protected]>wrote: > > I cannot get the York County map to appear. Is anyone else having the same > trouble? > > Kim D. Garrison > Weyers Cave, VA >

yes, every time i try to load the york one it just sits there. of course dial-up takes forever anyway but i have loaded lancaster. eric blocher In a message dated 5/21/2011 12:45:00 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: I cannot get the York County map to appear. Is anyone else having the same trouble? Kim D. Garrison Weyers Cave, VA > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 11:46:58 -0400 > Subject: Re: [BRE] Vintage Maps > > Pa Archive websites is: http://www.phmc.state.pa.us > > Maps titled: MELISH-WHITESIDE COUNTY MAPS > > Direct link is: > http://www.phmc.state.pa.us/bah/dam/rg/di/r17-534WhitesideMaps/r017-534White > sideMapInterface.htm > > Bill Thomas ------------------------ Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN ------------------------ Support Our Sponsoring Agency The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:[email protected] ------------------------ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I cannot get the York County map to appear. Is anyone else having the same trouble? Kim D. Garrison Weyers Cave, VA > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 11:46:58 -0400 > Subject: Re: [BRE] Vintage Maps > > Pa Archive websites is: http://www.phmc.state.pa.us > > Maps titled: MELISH-WHITESIDE COUNTY MAPS > > Direct link is: > http://www.phmc.state.pa.us/bah/dam/rg/di/r17-534WhitesideMaps/r017-534White > sideMapInterface.htm > > Bill Thomas

This does not appear to be the Jacob Burkett family of Allegheny Township, Somerset County. Jacob's children are found in Allegheny Township or Londonderry Township, Bedford County. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of FamilyHart Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 9:38 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [BRE] Vintage Maps...Burkhart's The Stony Creek Burkets in Somerset County, PA were my wife's family. Please see: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=familyhart&id=I454 36 Thanks! Don & Jeanine Hartman FamilyHart http://familyhart.info [email protected] Rootsweb List Admins for: Pennsylvania, PADutchGenONLY, Penna-Dutch, PAYork, PA-York-Gen, MD-Fred-Gen, MDWashin, Burket, Dierdorff, Gotshall, Glattfelder, Hartman, Kohr, Kaufman, Shirk, Sturm USGENWEB CCs for: Adams Co., PA; Franklin Co., PA: Lancaster Co., PA; York Co., PA; Frederick Co., MD; Washington Co., MD Any genealogical information sent to FamilyHart grants permission to use that information for any genealogical purposes by FamilyHart. In a message dated 05/19/11 19:04:43 Mountain Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Do you know where they lived prior to coming to Somerset County? I found a Burkett family in Berks County that seems to be a good fit. Jacob of Allegheny was a Rev. War Vet, and there was a Jacob Burkett in the Berks County war records. Of course this would tend to eliminate an early German Baptist connection. Bill Thomas -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of john shafer Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 6:36 PM To: Brethren Listserve Subject: Re: [BRE] Vintage Maps...Burkhart's Bill, Thank you for your response. I ask this question out of curiosity because my Shaffer family seems to have been so influenced by the German Baptists even before becoming members in Wayne County, Ohio. They drop out of Lutheran Church Baptismal records very early in the 1800's even though the family was still living in the same place. According to the records of the Berlin Reformed/Lutheran Church the Shaffers, Cohenours and Burkharts/Burketts witnessed the baptism of each other's children: So these families must have been Lutheran or Reformed before 1800. (My grandfather claimed they were Lutheran.) Jonathan, parents John Schafer and Catherine Born 10 September 1788 Baptized 17 Nov 1788, witnesses Jacob Borckfard and Elizabeth Samuel, parents Jacob Boochard, Elizabeth, Born 10 Apr 1790, Baptized 4 Jul 1790, witnesses John Shaffer, Catherine John, parents John Jacob Burkhard, Elizabeth, Born 20 Jan 1795 Baptized (no date) witnesses John Shafer, Susanna Elizabeth, parents Christian Lauchnour, Catherine, Born 29 Nov 1798, Baptized 24 Apr 1799, witnesses, John Shafer, Susanna This may not be of interest to you, but maybe others out there may have more information. John Shafer > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 16:05:58 -0400 > Subject: Re: [BRE] Vintage Maps...Burkhart's > > John: > > I am familiar with the Burkhart family of Allegheny Township, which my wife > is a descendent. The patriarch of her family is Jacob Burkett who owned > property near Brush and Wills Creeks. The 1816 map location is off a tad, > if this is Jacob's property. > > I am unclear as to their religious denomination. My wife's ties to the > Burkett's begin with her great grandmother, who was Roman Catholic. > However, the cemetery where her great-great Burkett grandparents are buried > is not Catholic. The New Baltimore area of Allegheny Township had a > significant Roman Catholic population, but the area where Jacob lived had > several Lutheran Churches in the 1876 Atlas. > > There also was a Burkett/Burkhart family that lived in Bedford County that > was close to German Baptist areas. The nearest German Baptist community I > am aware of near Allegheny Township where west of the mountain ridge along > present Route 31, on the Stony Creek and Brothersvalley Township line. > > Bill Thomas > > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > Support Our Sponsoring Agency > The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) > For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:[email protected] > ------------------------ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------ Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN ------------------------ Support Our Sponsoring Agency The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:[email protected] ------------------------ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------ Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN ------------------------ Support Our Sponsoring Agency The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:[email protected] ------------------------ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------ Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN ------------------------ Support Our Sponsoring Agency The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:[email protected] ------------------------ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I stand corrected....there are some maps missing. Cumberland County is also missing. Bill Thomas -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paula Minaert Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 1:44 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [BRE] Vintage Maps I check the website and could not find maps for the two counties that interest me, Adams and Franklin. Am I missing something? Paula Minaert On 5/18/2011 10:30 PM, William Thomas wrote: > I am not sure if this was mentioned before, and if it was, I apologize. The > website of the Pennsylvania Archives has 1816 vintage maps in PDF format > that you can download. > > > > At first view, they look like maps showing only township boundaries and > major towns. However, if you blow them up to 200% scale or greater, you > will see that these maps have homestead locations, tributary names, and > other landmarks of interest. They have maps for every County in > Pennsylvania (at least those that existed in 1816), but the map index > appears to cover the entire state. > > > > Bill Thomas > > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > Support Our Sponsoring Agency > The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) > For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:[email protected] > ------------------------ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------ Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN ------------------------ Support Our Sponsoring Agency The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:[email protected] ------------------------ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I check the website and could not find maps for the two counties that interest me, Adams and Franklin. Am I missing something? Paula Minaert On 5/18/2011 10:30 PM, William Thomas wrote: > I am not sure if this was mentioned before, and if it was, I apologize. The > website of the Pennsylvania Archives has 1816 vintage maps in PDF format > that you can download. > > > > At first view, they look like maps showing only township boundaries and > major towns. However, if you blow them up to 200% scale or greater, you > will see that these maps have homestead locations, tributary names, and > other landmarks of interest. They have maps for every County in > Pennsylvania (at least those that existed in 1816), but the map index > appears to cover the entire state. > > > > Bill Thomas > > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > Support Our Sponsoring Agency > The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) > For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:[email protected] > ------------------------ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Bill, Although I cannot make a judgment through personal research, I have seen evidence that the Burkhardts/Burketts came from Berks County. I am stuck in my Shaffer research, but I strongly suspect they came from Berks County as well, and this is how I have been running into the Burkett information. There seems to be some parallel activity; my grandfather always said that "John Shaffer (Sr.) fought in the Revolutionary War" and that he "was Lutheran" and this also seems to be true of Jacob Burkett of Allegheny Township. No, I don't think they were German Baptist early, as in Berks County, but I do suspect influences in Somerset County. John Shaffer Jr. married Nancy Bechtel, daughter of Jacob Bechtel of Stony Creek Township. The Bechtels seem to have been Reformed or Lutheran in Somerset County, but are descended from the Mennonite Bechtels of Washington County, Maryland, and Berks County, Pennsylvania and some of their children became German Baptist. John Shaffer Jr.'s sister, Elizabeth Shaffer married John Gans Jr. of a strong German Baptist family, and another sister, Catherine Shaffer married Peter Trump in Stark County, Ohio, likely a Lutheran, but with ties to Klingamans who were/became German Baptist. Sisters Susanna Shaffer married David Blocher Hoff and Lydia Shaffer married Jacob Blocher Hoff in Ohio, and they were German Baptist. All very interesting, and had I more time I would work on figuring out the connections between all these families. John > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 21:00:16 -0400 > Subject: Re: [BRE] Vintage Maps...Burkhart's > > Do you know where they lived prior to coming to Somerset County? I found a > Burkett family in Berks County that seems to be a good fit. Jacob of > Allegheny was a Rev. War Vet, and there was a Jacob Burkett in the Berks > County war records. Of course this would tend to eliminate an early German > Baptist connection. > > Bill Thomas > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of john shafer > Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 6:36 PM > To: Brethren Listserve > Subject: Re: [BRE] Vintage Maps...Burkhart's > > > Bill, > > Thank you for your response. I ask this question out of curiosity because > my Shaffer family seems to have been so influenced by the German Baptists > even before becoming members in Wayne County, Ohio. They drop out of > Lutheran Church Baptismal records very early in the 1800's even though the > family was still living in the same place. According to the records of the > Berlin Reformed/Lutheran Church the Shaffers, Cohenours and > Burkharts/Burketts witnessed the baptism of each other's children: So these > families must have been Lutheran or Reformed before 1800. (My grandfather > claimed they were Lutheran.) > > Jonathan, parents John Schafer and Catherine Born 10 September 1788 Baptized > 17 Nov 1788, witnesses Jacob Borckfard and Elizabeth > > Samuel, parents Jacob Boochard, Elizabeth, Born 10 Apr 1790, Baptized 4 Jul > 1790, witnesses John Shaffer, Catherine > > John, parents John Jacob Burkhard, Elizabeth, Born 20 Jan 1795 Baptized (no > date) witnesses John Shafer, Susanna > > Elizabeth, parents Christian Lauchnour, Catherine, Born 29 Nov 1798, > Baptized 24 Apr 1799, witnesses, John Shafer, Susanna > > This may not be of interest to you, but maybe others out there may have more > information. > > John Shafer > > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 16:05:58 -0400 > > Subject: Re: [BRE] Vintage Maps...Burkhart's > > > > John: > > > > I am familiar with the Burkhart family of Allegheny Township, which my > wife > > is a descendent. The patriarch of her family is Jacob Burkett who owned > > property near Brush and Wills Creeks. The 1816 map location is off a tad, > > if this is Jacob's property. > > > > I am unclear as to their religious denomination. My wife's ties to the > > Burkett's begin with her great grandmother, who was Roman Catholic. > > However, the cemetery where her great-great Burkett grandparents are > buried > > is not Catholic. The New Baltimore area of Allegheny Township had a > > significant Roman Catholic population, but the area where Jacob lived had > > several Lutheran Churches in the 1876 Atlas. > > > > There also was a Burkett/Burkhart family that lived in Bedford County that > > was close to German Baptist areas. The nearest German Baptist community I > > am aware of near Allegheny Township where west of the mountain ridge along > > present Route 31, on the Stony Creek and Brothersvalley Township line. > > > > Bill Thomas > > > > > > ------------------------ > > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > > ------------------------ > > Support Our Sponsoring Agency > > The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) > > For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:[email protected] > > ------------------------ > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > Support Our Sponsoring Agency > The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) > For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:[email protected] > ------------------------ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > Support Our Sponsoring Agency > The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) > For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:[email protected] > ------------------------ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I don't know if this will help or not , but there is a Burkett family web site. Lynn -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of john shafer Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 8:24 AM To: Brethren Listserve Subject: Re: [BRE] Vintage Maps...Burkhart's Bill, Although I cannot make a judgment through personal research, I have seen evidence that the Burkhardts/Burketts came from Berks County. I am stuck in my Shaffer research, but I strongly suspect they came from Berks County as well, and this is how I have been running into the Burkett information. There seems to be some parallel activity; my grandfather always said that "John Shaffer (Sr.) fought in the Revolutionary War" and that he "was Lutheran" and this also seems to be true of Jacob Burkett of Allegheny Township. No, I don't think they were German Baptist early, as in Berks County, but I do suspect influences in Somerset County. John Shaffer Jr. married Nancy Bechtel, daughter of Jacob Bechtel of Stony Creek Township. The Bechtels seem to have been Reformed or Lutheran in Somerset County, but are descended from the Mennonite Bechtels of Washington County, Maryland, and Berks County, Pennsylvania and some of their children became German Baptist. John Shaffer Jr.'s sis! ter, Elizabeth Shaffer married John Gans Jr. of a strong German Baptist family, and another sister, Catherine Shaffer married Peter Trump in Stark County, Ohio, likely a Lutheran, but with ties to Klingamans who were/became German Baptist. Sisters Susanna Shaffer married David Blocher Hoff and Lydia Shaffer married Jacob Blocher Hoff in Ohio, and they were German Baptist. All very interesting, and had I more time I would work on figuring out the connections between all these families. John > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 21:00:16 -0400 > Subject: Re: [BRE] Vintage Maps...Burkhart's > > Do you know where they lived prior to coming to Somerset County? I found a > Burkett family in Berks County that seems to be a good fit. Jacob of > Allegheny was a Rev. War Vet, and there was a Jacob Burkett in the Berks > County war records. Of course this would tend to eliminate an early German > Baptist connection. > > Bill Thomas > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of john shafer > Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 6:36 PM > To: Brethren Listserve > Subject: Re: [BRE] Vintage Maps...Burkhart's > > > Bill, > > Thank you for your response. I ask this question out of curiosity because > my Shaffer family seems to have been so influenced by the German Baptists > even before becoming members in Wayne County, Ohio. They drop out of > Lutheran Church Baptismal records very early in the 1800's even though the > family was still living in the same place. According to the records of the > Berlin Reformed/Lutheran Church the Shaffers, Cohenours and > Burkharts/Burketts witnessed the baptism of each other's children: So these > families must have been Lutheran or Reformed before 1800. (My grandfather > claimed they were Lutheran.) > > Jonathan, parents John Schafer and Catherine Born 10 September 1788 Baptized > 17 Nov 1788, witnesses Jacob Borckfard and Elizabeth > > Samuel, parents Jacob Boochard, Elizabeth, Born 10 Apr 1790, Baptized 4 Jul > 1790, witnesses John Shaffer, Catherine > > John, parents John Jacob Burkhard, Elizabeth, Born 20 Jan 1795 Baptized (no > date) witnesses John Shafer, Susanna > > Elizabeth, parents Christian Lauchnour, Catherine, Born 29 Nov 1798, > Baptized 24 Apr 1799, witnesses, John Shafer, Susanna > > This may not be of interest to you, but maybe others out there may have more > information. > > John Shafer > > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 16:05:58 -0400 > > Subject: Re: [BRE] Vintage Maps...Burkhart's > > > > John: > > > > I am familiar with the Burkhart family of Allegheny Township, which my > wife > > is a descendent. The patriarch of her family is Jacob Burkett who owned > > property near Brush and Wills Creeks. The 1816 map location is off a tad, > > if this is Jacob's property. > > > > I am unclear as to their religious denomination. My wife's ties to the > > Burkett's begin with her great grandmother, who was Roman Catholic. > > However, the cemetery where her great-great Burkett grandparents are > buried > > is not Catholic. The New Baltimore area of Allegheny Township had a > > significant Roman Catholic population, but the area where Jacob lived had > > several Lutheran Churches in the 1876 Atlas. > > > > There also was a Burkett/Burkhart family that lived in Bedford County that > > was close to German Baptist areas. The nearest German Baptist community I > > am aware of near Allegheny Township where west of the mountain ridge along > > present Route 31, on the Stony Creek and Brothersvalley Township line. > > > > Bill Thomas > > > > > > ------------------------ > > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > > ------------------------ > > Support Our Sponsoring Agency > > The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) > > For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:[email protected] > > ------------------------ > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > Support Our Sponsoring Agency > The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) > For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:[email protected] > ------------------------ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > Support Our Sponsoring Agency > The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) > For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:[email protected] > ------------------------ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------ Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN ------------------------ Support Our Sponsoring Agency The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:[email protected] ------------------------ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bill, Thank you for your response. I ask this question out of curiosity because my Shaffer family seems to have been so influenced by the German Baptists even before becoming members in Wayne County, Ohio. They drop out of Lutheran Church Baptismal records very early in the 1800's even though the family was still living in the same place. According to the records of the Berlin Reformed/Lutheran Church the Shaffers, Cohenours and Burkharts/Burketts witnessed the baptism of each other's children: So these families must have been Lutheran or Reformed before 1800. (My grandfather claimed they were Lutheran.) Jonathan, parents John Schafer and Catherine Born 10 September 1788 Baptized 17 Nov 1788, witnesses Jacob Borckfard and Elizabeth Samuel, parents Jacob Boochard, Elizabeth, Born 10 Apr 1790, Baptized 4 Jul 1790, witnesses John Shaffer, Catherine John, parents John Jacob Burkhard, Elizabeth, Born 20 Jan 1795 Baptized (no date) witnesses John Shafer, Susanna Elizabeth, parents Christian Lauchnour, Catherine, Born 29 Nov 1798, Baptized 24 Apr 1799, witnesses, John Shafer, Susanna This may not be of interest to you, but maybe others out there may have more information. John Shafer > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 16:05:58 -0400 > Subject: Re: [BRE] Vintage Maps...Burkhart's > > John: > > I am familiar with the Burkhart family of Allegheny Township, which my wife > is a descendent. The patriarch of her family is Jacob Burkett who owned > property near Brush and Wills Creeks. The 1816 map location is off a tad, > if this is Jacob's property. > > I am unclear as to their religious denomination. My wife's ties to the > Burkett's begin with her great grandmother, who was Roman Catholic. > However, the cemetery where her great-great Burkett grandparents are buried > is not Catholic. The New Baltimore area of Allegheny Township had a > significant Roman Catholic population, but the area where Jacob lived had > several Lutheran Churches in the 1876 Atlas. > > There also was a Burkett/Burkhart family that lived in Bedford County that > was close to German Baptist areas. The nearest German Baptist community I > am aware of near Allegheny Township where west of the mountain ridge along > present Route 31, on the Stony Creek and Brothersvalley Township line. > > Bill Thomas > > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > Support Our Sponsoring Agency > The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) > For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:[email protected] > ------------------------ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Do you know where they lived prior to coming to Somerset County? I found a Burkett family in Berks County that seems to be a good fit. Jacob of Allegheny was a Rev. War Vet, and there was a Jacob Burkett in the Berks County war records. Of course this would tend to eliminate an early German Baptist connection. Bill Thomas -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of john shafer Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 6:36 PM To: Brethren Listserve Subject: Re: [BRE] Vintage Maps...Burkhart's Bill, Thank you for your response. I ask this question out of curiosity because my Shaffer family seems to have been so influenced by the German Baptists even before becoming members in Wayne County, Ohio. They drop out of Lutheran Church Baptismal records very early in the 1800's even though the family was still living in the same place. According to the records of the Berlin Reformed/Lutheran Church the Shaffers, Cohenours and Burkharts/Burketts witnessed the baptism of each other's children: So these families must have been Lutheran or Reformed before 1800. (My grandfather claimed they were Lutheran.) Jonathan, parents John Schafer and Catherine Born 10 September 1788 Baptized 17 Nov 1788, witnesses Jacob Borckfard and Elizabeth Samuel, parents Jacob Boochard, Elizabeth, Born 10 Apr 1790, Baptized 4 Jul 1790, witnesses John Shaffer, Catherine John, parents John Jacob Burkhard, Elizabeth, Born 20 Jan 1795 Baptized (no date) witnesses John Shafer, Susanna Elizabeth, parents Christian Lauchnour, Catherine, Born 29 Nov 1798, Baptized 24 Apr 1799, witnesses, John Shafer, Susanna This may not be of interest to you, but maybe others out there may have more information. John Shafer > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 16:05:58 -0400 > Subject: Re: [BRE] Vintage Maps...Burkhart's > > John: > > I am familiar with the Burkhart family of Allegheny Township, which my wife > is a descendent. The patriarch of her family is Jacob Burkett who owned > property near Brush and Wills Creeks. The 1816 map location is off a tad, > if this is Jacob's property. > > I am unclear as to their religious denomination. My wife's ties to the > Burkett's begin with her great grandmother, who was Roman Catholic. > However, the cemetery where her great-great Burkett grandparents are buried > is not Catholic. The New Baltimore area of Allegheny Township had a > significant Roman Catholic population, but the area where Jacob lived had > several Lutheran Churches in the 1876 Atlas. > > There also was a Burkett/Burkhart family that lived in Bedford County that > was close to German Baptist areas. The nearest German Baptist community I > am aware of near Allegheny Township where west of the mountain ridge along > present Route 31, on the Stony Creek and Brothersvalley Township line. > > Bill Thomas > > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > Support Our Sponsoring Agency > The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) > For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:[email protected] > ------------------------ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------ Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN ------------------------ Support Our Sponsoring Agency The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:[email protected] ------------------------ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The Stony Creek Burkets in Somerset County, PA were my wife's family. Please see: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=familyhart&id=I45436 Thanks! Don & Jeanine Hartman FamilyHart http://familyhart.info [email protected] Rootsweb List Admins for: Pennsylvania, PADutchGenONLY, Penna-Dutch, PAYork, PA-York-Gen, MD-Fred-Gen, MDWashin, Burket, Dierdorff, Gotshall, Glattfelder, Hartman, Kohr, Kaufman, Shirk, Sturm USGENWEB CCs for: Adams Co., PA; Franklin Co., PA: Lancaster Co., PA; York Co., PA; Frederick Co., MD; Washington Co., MD Any genealogical information sent to FamilyHart grants permission to use that information for any genealogical purposes by FamilyHart. In a message dated 05/19/11 19:04:43 Mountain Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Do you know where they lived prior to coming to Somerset County? I found a Burkett family in Berks County that seems to be a good fit. Jacob of Allegheny was a Rev. War Vet, and there was a Jacob Burkett in the Berks County war records. Of course this would tend to eliminate an early German Baptist connection. Bill Thomas -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of john shafer Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 6:36 PM To: Brethren Listserve Subject: Re: [BRE] Vintage Maps...Burkhart's Bill, Thank you for your response. I ask this question out of curiosity because my Shaffer family seems to have been so influenced by the German Baptists even before becoming members in Wayne County, Ohio. They drop out of Lutheran Church Baptismal records very early in the 1800's even though the family was still living in the same place. According to the records of the Berlin Reformed/Lutheran Church the Shaffers, Cohenours and Burkharts/Burketts witnessed the baptism of each other's children: So these families must have been Lutheran or Reformed before 1800. (My grandfather claimed they were Lutheran.) Jonathan, parents John Schafer and Catherine Born 10 September 1788 Baptized 17 Nov 1788, witnesses Jacob Borckfard and Elizabeth Samuel, parents Jacob Boochard, Elizabeth, Born 10 Apr 1790, Baptized 4 Jul 1790, witnesses John Shaffer, Catherine John, parents John Jacob Burkhard, Elizabeth, Born 20 Jan 1795 Baptized (no date) witnesses John Shafer, Susanna Elizabeth, parents Christian Lauchnour, Catherine, Born 29 Nov 1798, Baptized 24 Apr 1799, witnesses, John Shafer, Susanna This may not be of interest to you, but maybe others out there may have more information. John Shafer > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 16:05:58 -0400 > Subject: Re: [BRE] Vintage Maps...Burkhart's > > John: > > I am familiar with the Burkhart family of Allegheny Township, which my wife > is a descendent. The patriarch of her family is Jacob Burkett who owned > property near Brush and Wills Creeks. The 1816 map location is off a tad, > if this is Jacob's property. > > I am unclear as to their religious denomination. My wife's ties to the > Burkett's begin with her great grandmother, who was Roman Catholic. > However, the cemetery where her great-great Burkett grandparents are buried > is not Catholic. The New Baltimore area of Allegheny Township had a > significant Roman Catholic population, but the area where Jacob lived had > several Lutheran Churches in the 1876 Atlas. > > There also was a Burkett/Burkhart family that lived in Bedford County that > was close to German Baptist areas. The nearest German Baptist community I > am aware of near Allegheny Township where west of the mountain ridge along > present Route 31, on the Stony Creek and Brothersvalley Township line. > > Bill Thomas > > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > Support Our Sponsoring Agency > The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) > For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:[email protected] > ------------------------ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------ Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN ------------------------ Support Our Sponsoring Agency The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:[email protected] ------------------------ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------ Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN ------------------------ Support Our Sponsoring Agency The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:[email protected] ------------------------ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bill, Thank you for this excellent tip! I can clearly see my ancestors' lands on the Allegheny Mountain in Somerset County along with their neighbors. Very enlightening. Thanks again for sharing this. Related to this, does anyone know if the Burkharts and Cohenours/Gochenours of Allegheny Township, Somerset County were German Baptist, or became German Baptist? We know that the John Gans family who lived nearby was German Baptist and moved to the Nimishillen settlement in Stark County, Ohio. One of my family (Elizabeth Shaffer) married John Gans Jr. John Shafer > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 22:30:06 -0400 > Subject: [BRE] Vintage Maps > > I am not sure if this was mentioned before, and if it was, I apologize. The > website of the Pennsylvania Archives has 1816 vintage maps in PDF format > that you can download. > > > > At first view, they look like maps showing only township boundaries and > major towns. However, if you blow them up to 200% scale or greater, you > will see that these maps have homestead locations, tributary names, and > other landmarks of interest. They have maps for every County in > Pennsylvania (at least those that existed in 1816), but the map index > appears to cover the entire state. > > > > Bill Thomas > > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > Support Our Sponsoring Agency > The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) > For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:[email protected] > ------------------------ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message