All I have for Joh. Valentin Metzger's wife is Catharine. As to children, I have Elizabeth (? - ?) Susanna (18 Nov 1761 - 1833) Catherina (? - 1813) Christiana (25 May 1765 - 31 Aug 1826) Mary (? - Before 1806) John (18 Jan 1771 - 18 Jan 1837) Henry (31 Oct 1778 - 11 Sept 1859) Jacob (6 Mar 1781 - 4 Oct 1862) Andrew (3 Jan 1785 - 17 Feb 1848) My source was a personal communication from Carole Greathouse ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat J." <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 3:56 PM Subject: [BRE] Johann Valentin METZGER born 1741/1743, Germany;died 1806/1807, PA > Was the spouse Cathrina Christiana Hoover? > > Also, were they parents of 9 children? > > Catharina - 1756? > Elizabeth - 1759 > Susanna - 1761 > Christina - 1765 > Mary Elizabeth - 1767 > John - 1771 > Henry - 1778 > Jacob - 1781 > Andrew - 1785 > > > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > Support Our Sponsoring Agency > The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) > For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:[email protected] > ------------------------ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

I wouldn't put much stock in the George Washington story. Washington's illness is well documented, was spent in an army field hospital, and the accounts list those who cared for him (it did not include Jacob). Not sure the source of this tale, but I should note that prominent Brethren historian Austin Cooper played loose with the facts from time to time, and includes some tall tales in his histories. Militia lists are very misleading, since they can be nothing more than names of those eligible for the militia, as opposed to those who showed up for their musters or fought in battle. The most action a typical militia member saw was during the drunken brawls that often occurred at the end of their muster session that took place on the village green. They seldom saw military action, since the regular army considered them of little value on a battlefield (they often cut and run before even firing a shot). Jacob Broombaugh Junior and John Broombaugh are on the 1776 non-associators list for Washington County (those who refused to serve in the militia). They both paid fines of 3 pounds. So Jacob's name on a French & Indian War militia lists means two things....he was living in Maryland and was between the age of 16 and 60 (the age criteria in the Maryland militia statute). Anything beyond that is speculative. Brumbaugh is a prominent Brethren name and Martin Brumbaugh is a prominent Brethren historian, who wrote a history on the Brethren in 1899. So I expect there is a lot of reliable info on the family out there. Bill Thomas -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Norman E. Donoghue, II Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 10:32 AM To: Brenthren Genealogy List Subject: [BRE] Johann Jacob Brumbaugh (ca 1726-1799) Dear Brethren Genealogist List, I just joined this list so pardon me if I inadvertently violate any rules. I hope not. I have been researching for about several years, fairly intensively, my ancestor, Johann Jacob Brumbaugh (ca 1726-1799) who emigrated from the German Palatine in 1750 and lived in Washington County, Maryland, near Hagerstown from 1753-1799 and also acquired thousands of acres of land in Morrison's Cove (Woodbury Township) and Frankstown, Bedford County, PA, between 1785 and 1799. In at least three books, one each by Freeman Ankrum, J. Maurice Henry, and H. Austin Cooper, all Brethren historians writing in the 20th century, he is referred to as Jacob Bromback and as ³the Pathfinder² who refused to fight in the French and Indian War in 1755¹s Braddock Campaign, citing his religious scruples, but was asked to come along and tend to the sick and wounded, and that he nursed George Washington back to health after the defeat of Braddock¹s troop at Monongahela. None of these writers refers to any primary source material. I have scoured all available sources on the F&I War and found relatively little, but some evidence that JJB was involved as it was close to Jacob¹s home and he worked with some of the players. I found that Jacob is on a muster roll for service in the Maryland militia under Capt. Hager 1757-58 in the French & Indian War, also that he quartered soldiers on his property (unknown date) in that war, but I find no evidence to support the more specific claim of any relationship with Washington. I have read GW¹s correspondence for that year and other years. Has anyone ever come across any other data linking a Brethren named JJB and GW at that time? Variant spellings of this name abound. These are a sample: Brumbach, Brumback, Bromback, Brombach, Broomback, Broombock, Broombaugh, Bombagh, Brombough, Brumbagh, and even in two instances Breembaugh, et al. Originally the name was Brumbach with an umlaut over the u so it was pronounced, I think, broom-bach. Also, Jacob married Mary Elizabeth Angle (ca 1740-1803) who was said to be (1) daughter of Henry Angle (originally Engle) (this is unproven from primary source data as of this date) and (2) first convert of Elder Martin Urner in Western Maryland (is there any list of his converts surviving?). She and Jacob were supposedly married ca 1760 (I think earlier, maybe 1757) in the Salem Reformed Church at Cearfoss, Maryland (then in Frederick county, later Washington), but records for that church are not available before 1772. Jacob is supposed to have been a Lutheran when he arrived but converted after his marriage to Mary. Would that conversion likely be recorded anywhere? Does anyone have a figure on population of the Brethren community in that area, or PA and MD at that time? I cannot link Jacob with any particular congregation of Brethren. He lived directly north of Hagerstown, near the state line (maybe right on it on September 26, 1765 when surveyors with a Royal Commission named Mason & Dixon came through that area and left a stone marker #103). This is in Elizabeth Hundred or possibly Salisbury Hundred, part of what in 1776 became Washington County (created from Frederick County). I understand that Brethren did not have church buildings in that area at that time. Also, did they have kirkbuchs? Did they marry at Reformed or Lutheran churches rather than their own? I cannot find dates of birth supported by any evidence for his 7 children (Jacob Jr., John, Mary, Daniel, Henry, David, George) who were born between 1758 and 1783, although he clearly lived in the same area his entire life, owning a farm known as Claland¹s Contrivance. Daughter Mary married Samuel Ulery a Brethren minister in Bedford County. Son John was also a Brethren minister in Bedford, I think. The farmstead once owned by Jacob as early as 1753 (now known as the Brumbaugh-Kendle-Grove Farmstead) still exists, is owned by the Hagerstown Regional Airport which wants to demolish the existing farm buildings which were actually built in the late 19th century. Jacob¹s family cemetery lies surrounded by an iron fence in the middle of the cornfield which is still cultivated on that property. As a matter of historic preservation, I want to help local people there save the farmstead from destruction as I just believe in that. I also want proper respect paid with a historical marker or something like it placed nearby as I think Jacob was a special Brethren for reasons that I can expound on at greater length in the book I wish to publish on his life. The farmstead was listed in a magazine in 2009 as the #1 most endangered historic property in the state of Maryland. I can give you a reference to the application for its eligibility for National Register listing. I have found primary source evidence of very interesting stories of Jacob.....his participation in conscientious objector status in the Revolution, but also his ??? Service as a soldier....never before revealed.....and have written about 50 pages so far.....with over 60 footnotes. I would greatly appreciate any help you can give me on these research challenges concerning my ancestor. I am also looking for a proper place to publish this interesting story. If you wish to contact me directly by e-mail my address is below. If you think we should talk on the phone, let me know that. Although I am not a Brethren, I have great respect for their beliefs and would like nothing better than to honor this particular Brethren ancestor of my mother (whose father, Rev. Roy T. Brumbaugh, was a noted fundamentalist Presbyterian minister) as I feel he richly deserves it. Many thanks and best wishes! Sorry for the long message. Ned Donoghue -- Norman E. 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Was the spouse Cathrina Christiana Hoover? Also, were they parents of 9 children? Catharina - 1756? Elizabeth - 1759 Susanna - 1761 Christina - 1765 Mary Elizabeth - 1767 John - 1771 Henry - 1778 Jacob - 1781 Andrew - 1785

Dear Brethren Genealogist List, I just joined this list so pardon me if I inadvertently violate any rules. I hope not. I have been researching for about several years, fairly intensively, my ancestor, Johann Jacob Brumbaugh (ca 1726-1799) who emigrated from the German Palatine in 1750 and lived in Washington County, Maryland, near Hagerstown from 1753-1799 and also acquired thousands of acres of land in Morrison's Cove (Woodbury Township) and Frankstown, Bedford County, PA, between 1785 and 1799. In at least three books, one each by Freeman Ankrum, J. Maurice Henry, and H. Austin Cooper, all Brethren historians writing in the 20th century, he is referred to as Jacob Bromback and as ³the Pathfinder² who refused to fight in the French and Indian War in 1755¹s Braddock Campaign, citing his religious scruples, but was asked to come along and tend to the sick and wounded, and that he nursed George Washington back to health after the defeat of Braddock¹s troop at Monongahela. None of these writers refers to any primary source material. I have scoured all available sources on the F&I War and found relatively little, but some evidence that JJB was involved as it was close to Jacob¹s home and he worked with some of the players. I found that Jacob is on a muster roll for service in the Maryland militia under Capt. Hager 1757-58 in the French & Indian War, also that he quartered soldiers on his property (unknown date) in that war, but I find no evidence to support the more specific claim of any relationship with Washington. I have read GW¹s correspondence for that year and other years. Has anyone ever come across any other data linking a Brethren named JJB and GW at that time? Variant spellings of this name abound. These are a sample: Brumbach, Brumback, Bromback, Brombach, Broomback, Broombock, Broombaugh, Bombagh, Brombough, Brumbagh, and even in two instances Breembaugh, et al. Originally the name was Brumbach with an umlaut over the u so it was pronounced, I think, broom-bach. Also, Jacob married Mary Elizabeth Angle (ca 1740-1803) who was said to be (1) daughter of Henry Angle (originally Engle) (this is unproven from primary source data as of this date) and (2) first convert of Elder Martin Urner in Western Maryland (is there any list of his converts surviving?). She and Jacob were supposedly married ca 1760 (I think earlier, maybe 1757) in the Salem Reformed Church at Cearfoss, Maryland (then in Frederick county, later Washington), but records for that church are not available before 1772. Jacob is supposed to have been a Lutheran when he arrived but converted after his marriage to Mary. Would that conversion likely be recorded anywhere? Does anyone have a figure on population of the Brethren community in that area, or PA and MD at that time? I cannot link Jacob with any particular congregation of Brethren. He lived directly north of Hagerstown, near the state line (maybe right on it on September 26, 1765 when surveyors with a Royal Commission named Mason & Dixon came through that area and left a stone marker #103). This is in Elizabeth Hundred or possibly Salisbury Hundred, part of what in 1776 became Washington County (created from Frederick County). I understand that Brethren did not have church buildings in that area at that time. Also, did they have kirkbuchs? Did they marry at Reformed or Lutheran churches rather than their own? I cannot find dates of birth supported by any evidence for his 7 children (Jacob Jr., John, Mary, Daniel, Henry, David, George) who were born between 1758 and 1783, although he clearly lived in the same area his entire life, owning a farm known as Claland¹s Contrivance. Daughter Mary married Samuel Ulery a Brethren minister in Bedford County. Son John was also a Brethren minister in Bedford, I think. The farmstead once owned by Jacob as early as 1753 (now known as the Brumbaugh-Kendle-Grove Farmstead) still exists, is owned by the Hagerstown Regional Airport which wants to demolish the existing farm buildings which were actually built in the late 19th century. Jacob¹s family cemetery lies surrounded by an iron fence in the middle of the cornfield which is still cultivated on that property. As a matter of historic preservation, I want to help local people there save the farmstead from destruction as I just believe in that. I also want proper respect paid with a historical marker or something like it placed nearby as I think Jacob was a special Brethren for reasons that I can expound on at greater length in the book I wish to publish on his life. The farmstead was listed in a magazine in 2009 as the #1 most endangered historic property in the state of Maryland. I can give you a reference to the application for its eligibility for National Register listing. I have found primary source evidence of very interesting stories of Jacob.....his participation in conscientious objector status in the Revolution, but also his ??? Service as a soldier....never before revealed.....and have written about 50 pages so far.....with over 60 footnotes. I would greatly appreciate any help you can give me on these research challenges concerning my ancestor. I am also looking for a proper place to publish this interesting story. If you wish to contact me directly by e-mail my address is below. If you think we should talk on the phone, let me know that. Although I am not a Brethren, I have great respect for their beliefs and would like nothing better than to honor this particular Brethren ancestor of my mother (whose father, Rev. Roy T. Brumbaugh, was a noted fundamentalist Presbyterian minister) as I feel he richly deserves it. Many thanks and best wishes! Sorry for the long message. Ned Donoghue -- Norman E. "Ned" Donoghue, II Philanthropic & Fiduciary Solutions 1933 Brandywine Street Philadelphia, PA 19130-3230 [email protected]

Thanks, James! I think I now have them sorted out correctly. I've been away from the 'search' for a few years and am trying to get back to sorting out some of the 'same name' individuals in my database. Pat, My records are far from complete, but I think I see two different men. The son of Stephen Ulrich and Susanna Shively was b. 1801 Huntingdon Co, PA and died 1886 Crawford Co, KS. On 11 Jan 1821 in Montgomery Co, OH, he m. Susannah Ulrich, b. 13 Oct 1800 Bedford Co, PA, d. 1883 Crawford Co, KS. The other man was b. abt 1803 and m. 27 Mar 1823 in Montgomery Co, OH Susan White (no other info on her). He was the s/o Joseph Ullery and Catherine Gripe. JS > Trying to identify correct parents and spouse for Samuel S. Ullery > born c. 1801. > > Possible son of Stephen and Susannah Shively Ulrich > OR > Possible son of Joseph and Catharine Cripe Ullery > > wife - Susan or Susannah (Ulrich?) > > Thanks for any help on identifying this Samuel! -- _________________ James Shuman [email protected] _________________ ------------------------ Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN ------------------------ Support Our Sponsoring Agency The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:[email protected] ------------------------ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Morning Rebecca.... If you go to www.dcoweb.org/cemetery/twin.htm you will get an excellent map of Twin Township where the cemeteries are marked on the map.... & gives locations of them...it also looks as if the cemetery is no longer in existance... there are lots of the Fourman Family listed in the Abbottsville Cemetery..... Please keep us informed of your progress with this old cemetery. Thanks, Jan Sanford [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rebecca Stephens" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 10:46 AM Subject: [BRE] FOURMAN CEM. > Can anyone help with the exact location of the old Fourman Cemetery in > Twin > Township, Darke Co. Ohio. It is outside of Gordon on the Gordon Landis > Road. > > The 1888 Plat map shows a cem., on the property of J. W. Fourman Sr. > I've > gone by there several times and can't visibly see any signs of a cemetery, > nor any stone, from the road. Any help in determining any burials or if > there is any > > Stones remaining today would greatly be appreciated. Is this John William > Fourman ? > > > > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > Support Our Sponsoring Agency > The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) > For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:[email protected] > ------------------------ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1382 / Virus Database: 1513/3698 - Release Date: 06/12/11 >

Pat, My records are far from complete, but I think I see two different men. The son of Stephen Ulrich and Susanna Shively was b. 1801 Huntingdon Co, PA and died 1886 Crawford Co, KS. On 11 Jan 1821 in Montgomery Co, OH, he m. Susannah Ulrich, b. 13 Oct 1800 Bedford Co, PA, d. 1883 Crawford Co, KS. The other man was b. abt 1803 and m. 27 Mar 1823 in Montgomery Co, OH Susan White (no other info on her). He was the s/o Joseph Ullery and Catherine Gripe. JS >Trying to identify correct parents and spouse for Samuel S. Ullery >born c. 1801. > >Possible son of Stephen and Susannah Shively Ulrich >OR >Possible son of Joseph and Catharine Cripe Ullery > >wife - Susan or Susannah (Ulrich?) > >Thanks for any help on identifying this Samuel! -- _________________ James Shuman [email protected] _________________

Trying to identify correct parents and spouse for Samuel S. Ullery born c. 1801. Possible son of Stephen and Susannah Shively Ulrich OR Possible son of Joseph and Catharine Cripe Ullery wife - Susan or Susannah (Ulrich?) Thanks for any help on identifying this Samuel!

I do not see this cemetery listed on Findagrave.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rebecca Stephens" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 11:46 AM Subject: [BRE] FOURMAN CEM. > Can anyone help with the exact location of the old Fourman Cemetery in > Twin > Township, Darke Co. Ohio. It is outside of Gordon on the Gordon Landis > Road. > > The 1888 Plat map shows a cem., on the property of J. W. Fourman Sr. > I've > gone by there several times and can't visibly see any signs of a cemetery, > nor any stone, from the road. Any help in determining any burials or if > there is any > > Stones remaining today would greatly be appreciated. Is this John William > Fourman ? > > > > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > Support Our Sponsoring Agency > The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) > For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:[email protected] > ------------------------ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can anyone help with the exact location of the old Fourman Cemetery in Twin Township, Darke Co. Ohio. It is outside of Gordon on the Gordon Landis Road. The 1888 Plat map shows a cem., on the property of J. W. Fourman Sr. I've gone by there several times and can't visibly see any signs of a cemetery, nor any stone, from the road. Any help in determining any burials or if there is any Stones remaining today would greatly be appreciated. Is this John William Fourman ?

Hope springs eternal. I thought they started publishing about that time, but wasn't confident. Thank you for checking. Duncan Morrow ----- Original Message ----- From: "gale honeyman" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 8:46 PM Subject: Re: [BRE] Brethren obituary for this couple? > Duncan, > > The very first issue of a Brethren perodical, The Monthly Gospel-Visiter > was > in April 1851. Very few obits were published that first year. Sorry your > Leonard's are not found. > > Gale

Duncan, The very first issue of a Brethren perodical, The Monthly Gospel-Visiter was in April 1851. Very few obits were published that first year. Sorry your Leonard's are not found. Gale ----- Original Message ----- From: "Morrow Family" <[email protected]> To: "Brethren List" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 8:02 PM Subject: [BRE] Brethren obituary for this couple? >I have long understood that Gardiner Leonard and his wife, Sarah (Nuzum) >Leonard, died separately, but on the same day, April 6, 1851. > Today I learned that they were buried at the Union District Church of the > Brethren, near modern Fairmont, Marion County, WV. > Did any of the various Brethren newspapers report on the deaths of Mr. or > Mrs. Leonard? > Thank you, > Duncan Morrow

I have long understood that Gardiner Leonard and his wife, Sarah (Nuzum) Leonard, died separately, but on the same day, April 6, 1851. Today I learned that they were buried at the Union District Church of the Brethren, near modern Fairmont, Marion County, WV. Did any of the various Brethren newspapers report on the deaths of Mr. or Mrs. Leonard? Thank you, Duncan Morrow

JACOB GROVE OF THE NEW RIVER BRETHREN SETTLEMENT OF NORTH CAROLINA In my article, "Formation of the New River Brethren Settlement in North Carolina, 1787-1790, MENNONITE FAMILY HISTORY, April 2010, pp. 83-95, Jacob Grove was identified as head of the Grove family Brethren who settled in Wilkes/Ashe County, NC, on New River waters in 1788 along with the Bowers, Garber, Dick, Eller, Huntsinger, Shutt, and Younce Brethren families. Until now, I have not gone public with the probable ancestry of this Jacob Grove. Bear with me that the story of Jacob Grove involves using results of DNA testing. Willis "Pat" Oliver (died 2009) had two Groves cousins (unknown to me) who were DNA tested (User ID M9BNS and User ID DK2F4). They were descendants of Jacob Grove(s) of Wilkes/Ashe County, NC, who died circa 1805 according to Pat Oliver. Their DNA tests placed them in the Baretswill, Zurich, Switzerland Graf/Graff/Groff family line. Darvin Martin has identified both Hans Graff/Groff (d.1746) of Earl Township and his brother Martin Groff (d.1759) also of Earl Township as having the same ancestral DNA signature as Jacob Grove of NC based on other DNA tests (User ID 9VMGT in the case of Hans, and User ID HFUWX in the case of Martin). See Darvin Martin's article, "Unveiling the Deep Ancestry of Swiss Anabaptist Forebears," PENNSYLVANIA MENNONITE HERITAGE, July 2010, especially pages 7-9, for discussion of the Groff families. Darvin Martin has written to me that "the data proves a very close relationship between Jacob Groves (of NC) and both Hans Groff and his brother Martin Groff. The data cannot completely prove from which brother Jacob Groves descends." I submit that Jacob Grove of the New River Brethren of NC was the grandson of Hans Groff (d.1746) of Earl Township. In my article, "Jacob Graff (1699-1776) of Ephrata," MENNONITE FAMILY HISTORY, April 2009, pp. 74-80, I prove that Jacob Graff of Ephrata was the son of Hans Graff (d.1746) by his first wife, and that he was not the son of Christian Graff (d.1748) of Ephrata as posited by both Jane Evans Best in the Groff book (1997) and Richard Warren Davis on his MennoSearch website. Jacob Graff of Ephrata was disowned by his father Hans (Mennonite) subsequent to Jacob's joining the Seventh-Day Brethren at Ephrata. Little is known about the children of Jacob Graff (1699-1776) of Ephrata. His oldest son, Joseph, was the only child named in his will. Prior to his death, Jacob Graff Sr. sold his lands to his oldest son Joseph. The "Sr." designation suggests that he may have had a son by the same name. It was this possibility that led me to associate the Jacob Grove (d.c1805) of NC as a likely son of Jacob Graff of Ephrata. Why likely? Mostly because both the alleged father and the alleged son were Brethren. I have studied the early Graf/Graff/Groff families of Pennsylvania and have found that only a handful of them became Brethren. But now, with the DNA results, there is even greater reason to believe that Jacob Grove of North Carolina was the son of Jacob Graff of Ephrata, who, in turn, was the son of Hans Graff of Earl Township. Although I know next to nothing about DNA testing, Darvin Martin and my friend (and distant cousin) Carol Tefft both assure me that if enough Graffs/Groffs/Groves get tested, it should be possible some day to prove conclusively that my story is true. Dwayne Wrightsman, gggg-grandson of Jacob Grove of Wilkes/Ashe County, NC

Justin, William Stephens obit is in The Gospel Messenger, 1901, p 63. One for Mary Elizabeth was not submitted per the CD index. Gale ----- Original Message ----- From: "Justin Houser" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 2:49 PM Subject: [BRE] Obituary questions > Good afternoon, listmembers, > > My 4th great-grandparents were members of the Church of the Brethren in > Central Pennsylvania, and I am interested in learning whether any > obituaries > were published for them. > > They were William STEPHENS, b. Mar., 1816 in Pennsylvania, d. Dec. 25, > 1900, > in Shirley Twp., Huntingdon Co., Pa., and his wife Mary Catharine (MILLER) > STEPHENS, b. ca. 1814, in Maryland, d. Dec. 11, 1888, in Spring Mount, > Warriors Mark Twp., Huntingdon Co., Pa. Sometimes the name is written as > STEVENS. > Justin Houser > Scranton, PA

Good afternoon, listmembers, My 4th great-grandparents were members of the Church of the Brethren in Central Pennsylvania, and I am interested in learning whether any obituaries were published for them. They were William STEPHENS, b. Mar., 1816 in Pennsylvania, d. Dec. 25, 1900, in Shirley Twp., Huntingdon Co., Pa., and his wife Mary Catharine (MILLER) STEPHENS, b. ca. 1814, in Maryland, d. Dec. 11, 1888, in Spring Mount, Warriors Mark Twp., Huntingdon Co., Pa. Sometimes the name is written as STEVENS. As near as I can tell, they were members of the Spring Mount Church of the Brethren in Warriors Mark Twp., Huntingdon Co., Pa. They are buried in the church cemetery, but their graves are not marked. I suppose that the best route to finding their gravesites (if possible) is to contact the church itself, as well as to learn whether it has any other early records that might name them or their family. I do not know the identity of the parents of either William or Mary Catharine. If anyone can direct me to their obituaries, if such exist, I would be most grateful. Justin Houser Scranton, PA

Good Morning Fellow List Members, My apologies to each and every one of you for not providing any Brethren newspaper Offerings of late. I have had major computer problems requiring money and time and only recently was I able to access the Internet. I am still not up to full speed and will likely have more problems; at least 'til I get a new motherboard and processor, but for the short time 'tis full speed agead. Additionally real world events have taken some precedence. This particular Offering is for the Primitive Christian newspaper of 1876. The encompassed article titles, and correspondents, are as follow: Gleaning and Jottings (a compilation from various correspondents); Washington, Kentucky, May 1st, 1876 (Bettie S. Burger); Church News (James M. Bailey); Acknowledgement of Favors (James M. Bailey); Information for Everybody (Ephraim Shuck); From the Valley River Congregation [Pennsylvania] (Alexander Wood); On the Full Beard (Solomon Gilbert); Railroad Arrangements (Daniel P. Sayler); Auburn, Illinois, May 11, 1876 (John Beechly); A Change (Zachariah Troyer); and Announcements [Perry cong., Ohio] Peter Long, [South Waterloo cong. Iowa] Elias K. Buechly, [Bear Creek cong., Ohio] John H. Denlinger. You may if you wish access the full text of the offering by visiting http://offering.brethrenarchives.com/index.php?option=com_content <http://offering.brethrenarchives.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=arti cle&id=736:the-primitive-christian-offering-109&catid=38:2011&Itemid=57> &view=article&id=736:the-primitive-christian-offering-109&catid=38:2011&Item id=57. With my blessings for the support from Mr. Barr of Illinois, thank you Sir! If the lady with whom I was working on the marriages of Montgomery county, Ohio, would please be so kind as to contact me I would deeply appreciate it. When my computer went south the technician inadvertently restored a backup from nearly a year ago. This means I lost all prior e-mails and the associated addresses. I would like to get back to work on our little project. I believe we had left off at the letter G. Cordially, A. Wayne Webb

Another abstracter tells me that Jacob Miller was listed in Probate Box 2 in an insolvency trial.  Apparently there was no good place to put other types of court cases, and this is an example of a non-probate.   Some info about Jacob Miller could be gained, probably.  This would be 1830's. She doesn't have a complete index of boxes 1-10, which takes us into the 1840's with some 1850's mixed in. Sharon Mills

Has anyone proven who the parents of Elizabeth were or her birth date? Did she die in 1802 in Huntingdon Co. PA?

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